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10 Hospital Commandments for Drug Users

Dope costs more - at least eventually

Even on the street subs use to cost me less. Than again dope is pricey there -- bux oc's and phines were still .50c mig, still way pricey.
When i got strung out on MSContin I was paying $10 for a 60mg pill. I saw online that the real street price is $6, but the guy acted like he was already cutting me a deal and I couldnt find a tar connect at all in this smallish town/city so I stuck with expensive morphine.
 
Damn -- if that was the street price here I never woulda switched. Get this a 10 pack of tar goes for uh 5x what you cited a mphine 60 -- and that was when it existed here. Almost australia bad pricing.

I do not think I would RATHER have a sub habit than a morphine habit in any sense of the word. Well maybe dose frequency but even that is pretty decent with morphine.

Only time I saw prices like that was about an 8 hour drive --- than you wanna buy quantity --- risk increases---metro area I stick out etc..... Not worth it long run. Plus TBH plug disappeared as I slept on it as good H was around at the time. (damn shortsightedness!)

who woulda predicted the H would no longer be H with active cuts though. (maybe a few ppl ahead of the curve)

More on topic rule #1 should be - AVOID THE DAMN HOSPITAL UNLESS YOU NEED IT. (Than by all means go!)
 
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Great post idea!

45 y/o Male with history of meth and heroin IV use, And I even tested NEG FOR BOTH

Can you elaborate on this, please? What happened with that?
 
"This for all my junkie mfrs...I ain't forget you n***as. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5-6-7-8...9-10"

The 10 Hospital Commandments:

(The 10 Things Drug Users SHOULD and SHOULDN'T Do For A Hospital Visit)



This may seem mundane to some, but for the average drug user your future quality of care and mental health may depend on it.

Medical facilities in the United States are ran like any other shitty corporate structure. They have quotas and objectives, because you are quite literally a number on a piece of paper. This paper is called, "My Chart" and is your entire medical history on file. Your juvenile medical records are sealed but after 18, anything is fair game. Every clinic you been to, medication you've been prescribed and all the wonderful things that your care providers think about you... It's all in there. You have the right of course, to download a version of this which is about 90% available. The remaining 10% are side notes or redacted information that you're not privy to- and have to request it. There's no guarantee that they'll agree to its release either. So, it's critical that when entering these systems you know exactly what's going to happen. Then navigate it properly and be prepared. More often than not, your fate has already been decided and you don't even know it.



Let's jump right into it...

1) If you happen to be on drugs and are experiencing whatever issues, it's important to ask yourself - "Am I just high? Is this a direct result of the drugs? If I were to subtract the drug from the equation, would the problem still exist?" This is imperative, and if the answer is "yes"...


2) Make sure that you have googled your symptoms, but be careful not to go down rabbit holes. Grab a pen and paper and make some columns with different "conditions" and the "symptoms" across. Put checkmarks to have a visual identification to help you decide what condition you may have and make an educated guess. Then Practice what you're going to say. Several times. Keep it factual and leave as much conjecture and speculation out of it as possible. Nothing wrong with intuitive leaps. But I highly advised against staring at a screen for hours to ultimately decide you have the bubonic plague 2.0. The best way to receive the proper care is the accurately describe your symptoms. (its also wise too learn common side-effects of psychoactive drugs, and what types of similarities they may have with your symptoms or condition.)

Note: Methamphetamine use and sleep deprivation often leads to delusions of grandure; including but not limited to parasites, bugs and insects crawling in/on/under skin (parasitosis aka formication). In addition is often the cause of edema and cellulitis in lower extremities as well due to sedentary periods of being seated without exercise. Stimulants in general can create a myriad of acute physical symptoms that mimic numerous conditions and mental ailments. It's generally best to lay off of them if you planning on going... Or best to make sure you've ate a nap and took a sandwich..lol





3) Google "Medical Terminology and Nomenclature". Leave it open in a separate window and revert back to it as needed to familiarize yourself with the proper jargon that you will hear in a hospital. For instance, itching would be "pruritus" and swelling is "edema." This works two-fold. To demonstrate you're not a complete fucking moron for one, and to understand the lingo you may overhear, or see written in the chart.. Once you're comfortable explaining yourself, your symptoms and your condition- you can prepare for your visit.


4) Dress for success unless physically unable. Consider this like a job interview. Shower, groom, nice digs and brush/comb/product in your hair. Wear nice shoes and brush your damn teeth. You may think this is silly, but I guarantee you it's not. There are specific areas in your chart designated for commentary about these things when describing your present condition. There are also identifiers for mental health, intelligence and cognizance. And not so many words... they completely judge and score every aspect of your being. So when you're all spruced up, it's time to enter the belly of the beast...


5) Go during reasonable business hours and never at lunchtime/dinner. Patients want to eat and staff wants to get the food out... and you're just in the damn way. I'd say safe hours would be 7:30am - 10:30am; 2:00pm -10pm. Of course you can go anytime if it's an emergency, but you'll get the best response and rapport from the staff this way. Going at 2 o'clock in the morning is not a good look and its inconsiderate. Plus you won't get residential staff... it is often floaters and subs these hours. NOW, When you get there..


6) Explain yourself clearly and use the words you studied. Don't adlib explanations. If asked a question, answer it to the best of your ability, and shut the fuck up. Speak when spoken to and K.I.S.S. Rambling makes you look suspect. The intake stafff are not your friends, in fact, they're quite the opposite,. and the first line of offense that you're going to encounter. They are trained to look for identifiers of "drug seekers" and "drug abusers" and are typically bratty med students or underpaid healthcare workers w attitudes, no sense of humor and an itch to snitch. Still, try to be patient with them. They're just doing their job... or at least they think so.



* T H I S P A R T C A N B E T R I C K Y . . . B e C a r e f u l . . .


7) When Asked about drug use, maintain composure... and a good poker face. Be indifferent, not offended. Instead of answering directly With "Yes or No", politely inquire the reasoning behind the question, and wait for an answer. Act a bit confused, and genuinely concerned as to what relevance it may have to the symptoms you described- or your potential treatment plan. A lot of the times there are absolutely NO valid reasons for them to ask those personal questions... other than to be able to use them against you. (This is why googling similarities of psychoactive drugs and symptoms is wise). You can refuse to answer altogether, but you will be met with resistance and possibly discharged by the doctor who will refuse treatment due to lack of compliance. If you do choose to allow them this information be very limited and careful what you do say because it will 100% end up in your file In fact, it will be one of the first things listed as your description as a patient and will be repeated over and over, so giving them as little ammunition as possible is a form of self preservation.

Note: medical staff is thoroughly trained to recognize multiple drug interactions and behaviors that are caused by them. This includes but not limited to: opioid withdrawals(this has a score sheet called COWS), amphetamine psychosis, hallucinations and general euphoria. Do your best to not exhibit said behaviors, and for the love of GOD- DO NOT GET FLAGGED AS A DRUG SEEKER. One of most obvious identifiers as patient who give a score of nine or 10 when I asked what their pain is. Believe me...if you're a solid 9-10 it will be evident without a spoken word.

8) Be fully prepared to experience a significant amount of pain if you are injured. You will NOT get opioids, muscle relaxants, or anything good for that matter. Asking gets you flagged. Now, acting hysterical or suffering panic attacks- May get you a low dose of Ativan, but possibly a psyche evaluation also which is 72-hour hold. As a rule of thumb, expect to ride pain out with Tylenol or ibuprofen. You can always bring your own dope. (this is coming from someone who had a a kidney removed from the front abdomen, waking up from anesthesia in tears and having to beg to only receive 1mg dilauadid).


9) Don't allow them to bully your diagnosis. Be direct with the doc and speak up otherwise their mission is to turn beds with you leaving improved. And you wont see doc but maybe once(daily)so use that time wisely. Doctors have a horrible habit of flat out not listening to the patients, and completely ignoring any speculation even if it's accurate.. The bedside manner has become significantly and progressively worse because they are often forced to see 50 to 60 patients a day. They go strictly by your chart. They seldom come closer than a couple feet away, and getting them to physically touch or feel something is pretty much out of the question.


10) Lastly, Exercise patience and try not to lose your cool. Know your rights to proper treatment. If you're not happy with the treatment plan or you feel the issue has not been properly addressed- you have to let them know. Misdiagnosis is common, especially at university type hospitals. Don't leave anything to chance, an don't leave early when you're being discharged it can cause a disruption in the billing cycle and it can be sent to you instead of your insurance. If you are required to stay overnight, it's wise to have a friend ready to call to pack you a bag.



"Follow these rules, you'll have mad health to rake up.

if not, 24 more visits... If you wake up.

Needle ports and IVs, watch your blood shake up.

Care taker - symptom faker, grass w snakes bruh."
As a seasoned junkie, and what the DEA labeled me back in the early 1990s, a "professional drug seeker and manipulative con artist," I can go along with most of these ten commandments of drug seeking. However, there are a couple I have to nitpick on, and only because I personally had negative experiences on these specific topics during my roughly 17-year stint as an all-consumed, fully dedicated and widely-traveled drug seeker.
Commandments 2, 3 and 4, while I will not dispute their logic nor their practical use, can delve off into behaviors that medical professionals are trained to be indicative of drug seeking behavior. As to Commandments 2 and 3, in particular, it is fairly common knowledge within the medical community that many drug seekers and factitious malingerers are autodidacts when it comes to medical terminology, anatomy and physiology and pharmacology. In fact, a great many serious drugs seekers are nothing short of walking medical encyclopedias. When I first started on my seeking journey over 3 decades ago, I made no secret of the fact that I held two advanced medical degrees. Indeed, this was -- what I thought at the time anyway -- a valuable addition to my bag-o-tricks when deceiving doctors and nurses into giving me the dope. And, admittedly, this spiel did work on a number of occasions. Other times, I found myself under the spotlight with the old 20 questions routine on my background in medicine. Since my background was probably the most legitimate aspect of my factitious existence, this type of Q & A from caregivers wasn't a problem to uphold, but rather served to steer the visit in the wrong direction by making manifest an air of suspicion that would polute the entire visit to some degree, even if.I was able to smooth the waters somewhat with my silver tongue. On at least a few occasions, medical staff believed me to be deceptive as to having any formal medical education, but rather believed that I was self-taught in medical lingo and knowledge in an attempt to "fit in as one of the caregivers... as part of his ruse," as one doctor noted in my chart after a failed attempt at scoring narcotics at a pain clinic in the deep south. After a few of these failed attempts, my new acquaintance and mentor, "Dr. Michael," who I fatefully assisted with car trouble while leaving that clinic, wisely schooled me on the proper usage of medical terminology when being seen by healthcare professionals. (Michael had been a family practitioner in the 1970s thru most of the 1980s, before losing his DEA prescribing priviliges then, ultimately his medical license due to a matter involving some blank prescription pads, a handful of promiscuous, blonde young ladies that Dr Michael had hired personally at his practice, and a quickly-growing addiction to narcotic painkillers.) Indeed, Michael schooled me on the.proper use of words in general when in a healthcare setting. And, I have to admit, the 10 Commandments do touch on many of the correct DOs and.DON'Ts in this regard: keep answers clear, concise, and do not volunteer needless information or ramble. Michael explained that while he was doing his internship and subsequent four years of residency, the senior attending neurologist, and Michael's superior, was a physican who had taken a keen interest in subject matter related to malingering, factitious disorders, detecting deception, drug seeking behaviors, and.was known to have an almost uncanny ability to read body language and mannerisms to determine if a patient was malingering or otherwise being deceptive to obtain controlled drugs. In turn, Micheal's mentor loved to pass this knowledge on to his interns and residents as part of the curriculum. While Michael was not doing narcotics this early on in his medical career, he did take great interest in these particular psychological and socioogical aspects of addiction and drug seeking behaviors. And, he was also one of those guys that, regardless of the plethora of.brain cells he had burned up in his smack-addled brain, soaked up knowledge like a sponge soaks up water, and could easily recall and enunciate that knowledge at the drop of.
a hat...when the need would arise. In short, Dr. Micheal possessed a treasure trove of knowledge on how to successfully lie to providers. Not only did he know the ins and outs regarding the mechanics of drug seeking, he was also an extremely gifted, albeit supernumerary thespian, and had a flair for the darkly-dramatic arts -skills that are priceless in this game. Michael could feign severe pain so well that, on a number of occasions, his cries of agony, horrendous screams of pain, and his highly convincing style of doubling over with abdominal distress were so effective, that nurses had to give him two 75 mg IV doses of Demerol (and the old-school 12.5 mg chasers of.IV Phenergan) just to get him up on the table for an initial examination. He was that good. And like any good student shouid strive for, my thirst for this knowledge was unquenchable. I was very easily just as addicted to this perilous lifestyle as I was the drugs I worked to diligently to obtain. After a couple of years of testing the waters and polishing the chrome of my new craft, I set out to follow Michael on his journey of city to city, town to town, hospital to hospital, clinic to clinic, pills to mouth, syringe to vein. This was back before 1996 and the tidal wave that would crash down upon the drug scene with the release of OxyContin by Purdue Pharma. In fact, it was mid-1994: as far as the painkiller scenario back then, Hydrocodone (Lorcet Plus, Vicodin ES, Lortab) Oxycodone (Tylox, Percodan, Percocet), Meperidine (Demerol) and Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) were pretty high up on the ladder of street demand drugs. Obviously, pulling a quick lick at the local ER isn't going to score you a lot, even back during that opioid liberal era -- at most, typically 30 to 45 pain pills belonging to one of the narcotic genres I just named. Sure, maybe if you hit 4 or 5 ERs in a 24-hour run, it would roughly be worth your time. So, my goal in the ER was generally not to be discharged with a small scrip of painkillers; rather, being admitted to the hospital was my ultimate prize. An admission would be good for several days of regular IV opioids, oral painkillers for breakthrough pain, as well as benzos, barbiturates or muscle relaxers for what they used to call "comfort meds," to promote rest and relaxation while in the hospital. It almost always worked out that if I got admitted, Michael would be admitted, too, and we would generally end up on the same floor, playing the.part of new buddies who just met under circumstances of close room proximity and good fortune. TO BE CONTINUED
(I will add much more to this memoir in the coming days, if anybody wants to hear the ramblings of an old junkie and ex-convict.)
 
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first rule could be:

hide all recreational drugs in your bedroom in a place where the police wont try find a knife for 5 minutes

Ahh ya gotta be more creative than your bedroom -- whats all this about the knife?

Bury that shit outside in a farmers bank and (Since no gun) have a flamethrower in hand -- 60 dolla flame thrower https://www.budk.com/Dragon-Fyre-Propane-Torch-52918/52918.html --- not a good flamethrower but something about flames scare me so much more than bullets ever could. Getting shot; eh thatd suck. Getting flamethrowed; even if you live do ya wanna?
Same with being stabbed though -- give me the bullet please

( Why would your home be searched if you went to the hospital? Lol what is the knife for hypothetically? )


@Dr.William of Baskerville think 4d is just giving you a heads up that people here dont seem to go for long bodies of writing --- almost no matter how substantial they are. I know I get the TL:DR 'all the time' and you put in alot more to that post than I usually do.

For us dummy drug users try and keep it succinct and bullet pointed or w/e --- a concept I struggle with myself

I agree you dont wanna overdo the nomenclature that lets them know you are knowledgeable which seperates you from the 'heard' --- in this case you wanna stay in the heard and not get picked off

PS Micheal sounds like quite the character and I gotta admire you determination to the craft --- couple of OG drugstore cowboys! (I got some stories too - the 90s were wild loose with the scripts and databases)

Welcome to Bluelight! Always good to have another brain on board
 
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As a seasoned junkie, and what the DEA labeled me back in the early 1990s, a "professional drug seeker and manipulative con artist," I can go along with most of these ten commandments of drug seeking. However, there are a couple I have to nitpick on, and only because I personally had negative experiences on these specific topics during my roughly 17-year stint as an all-consumed, fully dedicated and widely-traveled drug seeker.
Commandments 2, 3 and 4, while I will not dispute their logic nor their practical use, can delve off into behaviors that medical professionals are trained to be indicative of drug seeking behavior. As to Commandments 2 and 3, in particular, it is fairly common knowledge within the medical community that many drug seekers and factitious malingerers are autodidacts when it comes to medical terminology, anatomy and physiology and pharmacology. In fact, a great many serious drugs seekers are nothing short of walking medical encyclopedias. When I first started on my seeking journey over 3 decades ago, I made no secret of the fact that I held two advanced medical degrees. Indeed, this was -- what I thought at the time anyway -- a valuable addition to my bag-o-tricks when deceiving doctors and nurses into giving me the dope. And, admittedly, this spiel did work on a number of occasions. Other times, I found myself under the spotlight with the old 20 questions routine on my background in medicine. Since my background was probably the most legitimate aspect of my factitious existence, this type of Q & A from caregivers wasn't a problem to uphold, but rather served to steer the visit in the wrong direction by making manifest an air of suspicion that would polute the entire visit to some degree, even if.I was able to smooth the waters somewhat with my silver tongue. On at least a few occasions, medical staff believed me to be deceptive as to having any formal medical education, but rather believed that I was self-taught in medical lingo and knowledge in an attempt to "fit in as one of the caregivers... as part of his ruse," as one doctor noted in my chart after a failed attempt at scoring narcotics at a pain clinic in the deep south. After a few of these failed attempts, my new acquaintance and mentor, "Dr. Michael," who I fatefully assisted with car trouble while leaving that clinic, wisely schooled me on the proper usage of medical terminology when being seen by healthcare professionals. (Michael had been a family practitioner in the 1970s thru most of the 1980s, before losing his DEA prescribing priviliges then, ultimately his medical license due to a matter involving some blank prescription pads, a handful of promiscuous, blonde young ladies that Dr Michael had hired personally at his practice, and a quickly-growing addiction to narcotic painkillers.) Indeed, Michael schooled me on the.proper use of words in general when in a healthcare setting. And, I have to admit, the 10 Commandments do touch on many of the correct DOs and.DON'Ts in this regard: keep answers clear, concise, and do not volunteer needless information or ramble. Michael explained that while he was doing his internship and subsequent four years of residency, the senior attending neurologist, and Michael's superior, was a physican who had taken a keen interest in subject matter related to malingering, factitious disorders, detecting deception, drug seeking behaviors, and.was known to have an almost uncanny ability to read body language and mannerisms to determine if a patient was malingering or otherwise being deceptive to obtain controlled drugs. In turn, Micheal's mentor loved to pass this knowledge on to his interns and residents as part of the curriculum. While Michael was not doing narcotics this early on in his medical career, he did take great interest in these particular psychological and socioogical aspects of addiction and drug seeking behaviors. And, he was also one of those guys that, regardless of the plethora of.brain cells he had burned up in his smack-addled brain, soaked up knowledge like a sponge soaks up water, and could easily recall and enunciate that knowledge at the drop of.
a hat...when the need would arise. In short, Dr. Micheal possessed a treasure trove of knowledge on how to successfully lie to providers. Not only did he know the ins and outs regarding the mechanics of drug seeking, he was also an extremely gifted, albeit supernumerary thespian, and had a flair for the darkly-dramatic arts -skills that are priceless in this game. Michael could feign severe pain so well that, on a number of occasions, his cries of agony, horrendous screams of pain, and his highly convincing style of doubling over with abdominal distress were so effective, that nurses had to give him two 75 mg IV doses of Demerol (and the old-school 12.5 mg chasers of.IV Phenergan) just to get him up on the table for an initial examination. He was that good. And like any good student shouid strive for, my thirst for this knowledge was unquenchable. I was very easily just as addicted to this perilous lifestyle as I was the drugs I worked to diligently to obtain. After a couple of years of testing the waters and polishing the chrome of my new craft, I set out to follow Michael on his journey of city to city, town to town, hospital to hospital, clinic to clinic, pills to mouth, syringe to vein. This was back before 1996 and the tidal wave that would crash down upon the drug scene with the release of OxyContin by Purdue Pharma. In fact, it was mid-1994: as far as the painkiller scenario back then, Hydrocodone (Lorcet Plus, Vicodin ES, Lortab) Oxycodone (Tylox, Percodan, Percocet), Meperidine (Demerol) and Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) were pretty high up on the ladder of street demand drugs. Obviously, pulling a quick lick at the local ER isn't going to score you a lot, even back during that opioid liberal era -- at most, typically 30 to 45 pain pills belonging to one of the narcotic genres I just named. Sure, maybe if you hit 4 or 5 ERs in a 24-hour run, it would roughly be worth your time. So, my goal in the ER was generally not to be discharged with a small scrip of painkillers; rather, being admitted to the hospital was my ultimate prize. An admission would be good for several days of regular IV opioids, oral painkillers for breakthrough pain, as well as benzos, barbiturates or muscle relaxers for what they used to call "comfort meds," to promote rest and relaxation while in the hospital. It almost always worked out that if I got admitted, Michael would be admitted, too, and we would generally end up on the same floor, playing the.part of new buddies who just met under circumstances of close room proximity and good fortune. TO BE CONTINUED
(I will add much more to this memoir in the coming days, if anybody wants to hear the ramblings of an old junkie and ex-convict.)
Great post! Thanks for sharing.
 
Ahh ya gotta be more creative than your bedroom -- whats all this about the knife?

Bury that shit outside in a farmers bank and (Since no gun) have a flamethrower in hand -- 60 dolla flame thrower https://www.budk.com/Dragon-Fyre-Propane-Torch-52918/52918.html --- not a good flamethrower but something about flames scare me so much more than bullets ever could. Getting shot; eh thatd suck. Getting flamethrowed; even if you live do ya wanna?
Same with being stabbed though -- give me the bullet please

( Why would your home be searched if you went to the hospital? Lol what is the knife for hypothetically? )


@Dr.William of Baskerville think 4d is just giving you a heads up that people here dont seem to go for long bodies of writing --- almost no matter how substantial they are. I know I get the TL:DR 'all the time' and you put in alot more to that post than I usually do.

For us dummy drug users try and keep it succinct and bullet pointed or w/e --- a concept I struggle with myself

I agree you dont wanna overdo the nomenclature that lets them know you are knowledgeable which seperates you from the 'heard' --- in this case you wanna stay in the heard and not get picked off

PS Micheal sounds like quite the character and I gotta admire you determination to the craft --- couple of OG drugstore cowboys! (I got some stories too - the 90s were wild loose with the scripts and databases)

Welcome to Bluelight! Always good to have another brain on board
Thank you for the kind words and warm welcome. Ah, yes the 90s -- plain white paper (no watermark or security striping) used for Rx pads, even for controlled drugs; no statewide or nationwide databases on controlled substance prescribing; every clinic, hospital, family practice, general practitioner, etc., was not linked to a provider-accessible healthcare mainframe or an electronic records client server ther kept up with your first pube as viewed by your pediatrician, and every healthcare visit and Rx you have ever received to present day; doctor shopping.was still more of a novel concept than a felony charge; you could give a faise identity at the hospital or Dr.'s office and there were not 178 electronic red flags to get you busted; you could use a different pharmacy every time you got an Rx filled and it was not considered controlled substance fraud: it was par for the course.
Thank you for the tips as we}l. I shall try hard to adhere to brevity versus loquaciousness. 😊 Sorry 4DQSAR. I get your point.
 
In the early 1990s a guy I knew called 'Dodgy Chris' who unhinged his (Victorian Hardwood) front door, planed off 5mm or so and drilled holes and placed I do not know what into the holes, added a 5mm filler piece (made from same hardwood) and repainted. Not convenient but AFAIK even though the local plod pretty much knew what he was up to, they could not find anything and after a third warrent, he sued them for harrassment.

Of course they got him in the end but the older I get, the more I think Eric Berrne was correct in his book 'Game People Play'. It's hide-and-seek for adults and it's the satisfaction of not being caught that is intrinisic to such behaviors.

Don't get me wrong, he was a decent guy but it's monkey-logic that people assume that if they got away with something 99 times, the odds of getting the 100th time, is somehow lower, when the reverse is true.

Similarly people offered a legal alternative will often stick to the illegal stuff even if the alternative is cheaper! So clearly money is not the primary driver.

I did learn a lot from such people. Every one of them could have made at least as much in legitimate employment and indeed some did move on, but most did not and every one got caught.

One guy would buy the cheapest generic clothing from the local open market in Utrecht, drove a second-hand Toyota people-carrier with a baby seat in the back but wore a Rolex 40 day with the days of the week, ring of diamonds around the face and I don't know what else, But certainly a €30,000 watch. So I asked why and the response was quite interesting. I will try to recall it properly for you.

He takes off the watch as he explains a scenario where two people are in a light aircaft that crashes in a desert. One has €30,000 in bank notes, the other has the watch. A Bedouin emerges from the heat haze. He has a mobile phone*. He holds up the watch and asks me 'Who gets the the phone?'

In essence, for a people who are 'without' (Bedouin literally MEANS 'without'), money is just paper, but a Rolex for a £20 phone is a damned good deal. After all, you can charge the other guy €30,000 for a call, so you don't even lose out finanically.

*This is far more common than most people think. Cheap, rugged and 4 week standby are the three key metrics as you can even run banking apps with a 'dumb' phone.
 
In the early 1990s a guy I knew called 'Dodgy Chris' who unhinged his (Victorian Hardwood) front door, planed off 5mm or so and drilled holes and placed I do not know what into the holes, added a 5mm filler piece (made from same hardwood) and repainted. Not convenient but AFAIK even though the local plod pretty much knew what he was up to, they could not find anything and after a third warrent, he sued them for harrassment.

Of course they got him in the end but the older I get, the more I think Eric Berrne was correct in his book 'Game People Play'. It's hide-and-seek for adults and it's the satisfaction of not being caught that is intrinisic to such behaviors.

Don't get me wrong, he was a decent guy but it's monkey-logic that people assume that if they got away with something 99 times, the odds of getting the 100th time, is somehow lower, when the reverse is true.

Similarly people offered a legal alternative will often stick to the illegal stuff even if the alternative is cheaper! So clearly money is not the primary driver.

I did learn a lot from such people. Every one of them could have made at least as much in legitimate employment and indeed some did move on, but most did not and every one got caught.

One guy would buy the cheapest generic clothing from the local open market in Utrecht, drove a second-hand Toyota people-carrier with a baby seat in the back but wore a Rolex 40 day with the days of the week, ring of diamonds around the face and I don't know what else, But certainly a €30,000 watch. So I asked why and the response was quite interesting. I will try to recall it properly for you.

He takes off the watch as he explains a scenario where two people are in a light aircaft that crashes in a desert. One has €30,000 in bank notes, the other has the watch. A Bedouin emerges from the heat haze. He has a mobile phone*. He holds up the watch and asks me 'Who gets the the phone?'

In essence, for a people who are 'without' (Bedouin literally MEANS 'without'), money is just paper, but a Rolex for a £20 phone is a damned good deal. After all, you can charge the other guy €30,000 for a call, so you don't even lose out finanically.

*This is far more common than most people think. Cheap, rugged and 4 week standby are the three key metrics as you can even run banking apps with a 'dumb' phone.
Yep totally true.

I was told be a friend that a lot of special forces and spies have luxury watches for just such scenarios. It makes sense when you think about it.

I don't know why I'm italicised but it's been a pretty wonky day so I'm just gonna roll with it...🙂🤣🙃🙂🙃
 
Yep totally true.

I was told be a friend that a lot of special forces and spies have luxury watches for just such scenarios. It makes sense when you think about it.

I don't know why I'm italicised but it's been a pretty wonky day so I'm just gonna roll with it...🙂🤣🙃🙂🙃

Here I am thinking... why not just take the phone?
 
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