4 Enlightened Masters Who Went Completely “Insane”

[Zopiclone bandit]

"Bankei Yōtaku sealed himself inside a tiny paper hut and sat on jagged rocks until open sores bled through his robes. His body destroyed itself. Tuberculosis filled his lungs with fluid. And the moment he coughed up a glob of black blood onto the wall and completely gave up trying — that's when it hit him. The thing he was torturing himself to find had been staring out of his own eyes the entire time.Ayu Khandro entered a sealed stone chamber in the Himalayas with zero light, zero sound, zero human contact. She stayed for over fifty years. No mirror. No face. No sense of time. She watched the mind throw every hallucination it had at her — demons, gods, entire worlds — until the machinery simply ran out of fuel and collapsed.Lalla Ded was starved by her own family, fed a stone hidden under a thin layer of rice. When she finally broke free and realized the nature of consciousness, she stripped off every piece of clothing and walked into the marketplace completely naked. When a man demanded to know how she felt no shame, she looked around and said, "I see no men. I see only sheep."Mansur Al-Hallaj screamed "I am God" through the streets of Baghdad until the authorities arrested him, locked him in a dungeon for eleven years, and publicly dismembered him. As they cut off his hands, he wiped his own blood across his face and called it the perfume of his Beloved. He prayed for his executioners while bleeding to death. Their stories ask a question the spiritual marketplace doesn't want you to hear, what if the real obstacle to freedom isn't the world, but the person you think you are?"

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Is not enlightenment a form of madness from the norm of conditional thinking? When a person’s consciousness becomes open to a new and different perception of self and the world would that not be considered madness?

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

A sane person in an insane society appears to be insane.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

A sane person in an insane society appears to be insane.

True just thinking about that…if greater society were made up of bi-polar, schizophrenic, borderlines rational thinkers would be considered mad.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Is not enlightenment a form of madness from the norm of conditional thinking? When a person’s consciousness becomes open to a new and different perception of self and the world would that not be considered madness?

"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music"

I know after going into a state of Samadhi for a full day & half (around 36 hours before I came back to a Duality way of viewing things) it changed me deeply. All I know is since that day it was the final nail in the coffin for me, I have NEVER been able to view "real-ity" the same way 99% of other people do.

Every now & again I will slip back into a "Samadhi" state, everything is a part of ONE, my body feels nothing that is separate from me, even when I have had horrific tooth ache when in this state everything is one, when I am like this people treat me like I am "mentally sick"

Years ago before I got on Heroin I used to have huge surges of Kundalini, it comes from the base of the spine & shoots right up into the top of the brain, sometimes it goes out the head then back down so fast, I had a Kundalini rising event once when in a Temple, it literally threw me into the air & I lost all control of my body, I was TERRIFIED by the power, I was sure for decades I had some illness, it wasn't till I began to read about Yoga I learned what this thing is, I was born this way, before when I have had it go through me people who are just walking past give me odd looks, say "His weird" or "He creeps me out, his a weird one" they can "Pick up" on it, I guess I am viewed as mad by those who have no idea what it going on.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

if greater society were made up of bi-polar, schizophrenic, borderlines rational thinkers would be considered mad.

I don't think this is in question, I am sure most people who rule over us are actually "mad" & not "mad" in a good way, they are more "mad" in the way of being dangerous & Psychopaths / Sociopaths.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

@Zopiclone bandit I think your posts are interesting and from what you describe "Samadhi" is just one example of your travels which I find equally interesting. In many ways "The Mind" cannot be adequately described as far as potential or awareness goes. Does this mean the mind is limitless in terms of perception or is perception too broad of a concept to put limitations on?

Each person is unique not only in perception but also by experiences that add to perceived realities. The more information a person has to work with, the broader and deeper information we have to pull from.

 

[Brendan12]

The mind is only limited by its contents..

The Samadhi state is a connection with the soul I believe...

You don't need drugs to attain this awareness, but they can accentuate the experience..

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

The mind is only limited by its contents..

The Samadhi state is a connection with the soul I believe...

You don't need drugs to attain this awareness, but they can accentuate the experience..

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

You don't need drugs to attain this awareness, but they can accentuate the experience..

Baba Bhavani Kali Ruduru Tara Aghor who is my Guru's Guru speaks on his experience doing 5-MeO-DMT & Dakota gives his view too.
This will be of value to you in a big way, this I promise.



100% Truth

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

In many ways "The Mind" cannot be adequately described as far as potential or awareness goes.

Does this mean the mind is limitless in terms of perception or is perception too broad of a concept to put limitations on?

I would say the mind is 100% limitless in what it can grasp, most people never have the time in their life to really study these things though. If I said to you for the next 28 days without fail you have to go sit in the local park under a tree for at least 6 hours a day & chant a mantra over & over, no matter what may happen to you in terms of Life in that peroid you have to do it most people would refuse to do it, some may keep it up for a day or two but the first time it's raining really badly & you have to sit there in the PISSING DOWN RAIN they would quit doing it.
Once you decide to really "set sail" & cruise the Ocean of consciousness you better be ready for a long journey.

Sniffing a load of Ketamine in your house & playing some Sadhguru will never get you that far, it may seem that way & I was in that trap for so long myself but I have been Lucky to meet some very "interesting" people who took the time to give me an education in what the Mind can really do & grasp.

Each person is unique not only in perception but also by experiences that add to perceived realities. The more information a person has to work with, the broader and deeper information we have to pull from.

Deeply profound comment.

"The more information a person has to work with, the broader and deeper information we have to pull from."

 

[M!$TER-ED]

I don’t know for certain if I have connected with my soul as you described however, I am very aware of its presents in my life, not at all in a religious context but my humanistic of the soul is the integrated center of human dignity, agency, and self-authorship. It is not supernatural, is not owned by divine presence, is not made of metaphysical substances nor are there any after-life requirements.

The soul is the sense of inner worth, the feeling of a core self, the intuition of being more than individual circumstances, and the drive toward growth, coherence, and meaning. According to humanist's the soul has three layers.
A. the experimental core (felt sense of self) described as
* the intuitive inner compass,
* the self-repairing, self correcting center,
* the part that knows before you articulate,
* the witness that stays present through change.
This is a real psychological function, not a mystical entity.

B. The dignity core (inviolable worth)
Every person has;
* inherent dignity
* inherent agency
* inherent moral standing


The soul as a moral cente--the part of a person that must never be violated, owned or diminished.
This is the part of a person that;
* constructs meaning
* integrates experience
* chooses direction
* repairs identity after rupture

The soul is identified through its functions, not its substance. The soul is not a thing, but a living process.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

@M!$TER-ED
Well worth a watch I promise you.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

@M!$TER-ED
Well worth a watch I promise you.

Interesting thank you