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Meth Crystal Meth. Where has the good meth gone? What's wrong with the methamphetamine in US? Everywhere j go it's garbage. What are they doing to it?
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Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
My basic advice is to find your nearest Methicans.
ghostbagel666
Greenlighter
here in texas, i haven’t seen a difference in quality really. it’s been sorta hard to get every once in a blue moon, but always still pretty good quality.
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
I am familiar… just be glad you weren’t using that crap via IV. As soon as the first shot you are instantly hearing voices through the wall. That is most definitely some twakt out Indian… excuse me, Native American. Shit With a hella dirty nasty nasty ASTM D86 distillation fask of sorts, never seen a drop of denatured alcohol to clean up just residue on residue, some iodine crystals, phosphorus etc. It will make some decent sized cloudyMy understanding is that there is no need to cut Methampetamine with anything. It has become just insanely cheap to produce thanks to combined factors that led to the so-called ¨Super Labs¨ in Mexico. I was born in 1990, so as a youngster, the ¨Meth House; Meth Cook; Meth Lab¨ were all commonly discussed terms. Even in Boston, where in fact, there was no Methamphetamine at the time, everyone knew of a ¨Meth Lab¨ operating at such-and-such-as-street.
Where am I going with this... Ah yes, I´ve heard a lot of folks a generation older than myself who have experienced the different waves of Meth usage. For instance, I know at least two guys on here who are over 60 and still partying. It seems like people actually have a great deal of nostalgia for the ¨Shake and Bake¨ aka Homemade Methamphetamine. This provokes questions, right? If some relative amateur in unsterile conditions, using a soda bottle and such, can produce better Meth than what is currently on the street... what the fuck is that all about? Considering what seems like a free-hand south of the border, allegedly adept chemists and equipment, I can only suppose that there is something intentional or semi-intentional going on.
My #1 candidate is that they have cut corners in the manufacturing process to save money. I call this the ¨Panera Bread¨ model of Methamphetamine manufacture, but you will see all of this in my upcoming TED Talk. Anyway, Panera used to be awesome, remember? I´m no ¨soup-head¨ or anything, but that chowder slapped; right up until they developed a loyal customer base. It took ~3 years after Panera got shitty before I put it together that they had sacrificed their quality. All jokes aside, we have a ruthlessly loyal customer base who are more and more dedicated to the rush while also being unable to discern the difference fully due to their heavy usage.
@YusufIslam hey manI don´t know if you´re an artist-formerly-known-as Cat Stevens fan. I was rocking out to Matthew & Son this morning. It´s what I always throw on when I´m late for work. Now, your point. My understanding is that there would not be any reason for a chemist to produce L-Methamphetamine exclusively. I assume you were meaning I must have picked up Racemic Methamphetamine and the presence of the L-Methamphetamine was causing the stated issues.
I´m no expert. I´ve taken enough Amphetamines to be able to discern some basics though. The issue was not just that I had tachycardia, tension or otherwise peripheral nervous system effects, although they were a factor. I can deal with that stuff. I´m saying the psychological effects were of immediate anxiety, discomfort and a malaise that bordered on wanting it to be over. There is something more to it, at least from my perspective, with the specific drugs that I encountered.
Anyone else relate to this sensation that I´m trying to describe?
crystals they probably look like 
teeth and they dude won’t have more than an ounce at the most. So it’s the 2nd most simple way to make it a 1912 synthesis. the most simple and 1st being ephedrine, lithium strips etc. in a frying pan and a mortar for a reaction bowl 
. It might have been that. Turned Crystalline or ppl will take a metal grate hook it up to some voltage or battery then sprayed down with wasp spray basically forming quick crystalline structures YEP THEY DO THAT but we shall not forget that the Easter bunny dope might be the culprit. Methican stuff is usually always small clear crystals that appear greasy with a greasy clear finish on the baggy probably the result of “acid hydrochloric just for the euphoric” but still decent enough if you want something top quality tip fucking top notch WOW it must be small batch made with an hmk distillation apparatus. Using oregano selenium in the benzene ring for the amino. Now that shit is R1A1 or RAVEN GLASS synthesized originally by Mitsubishi Motors in an American lab 
for some reason and sold in Afghanistan. It is even showing muscle over a portion of the ancient opium epidemiology. Hope that helped or at least mildly informative…STAY SAFE MAYBE USE AN ACETONE WASH It makes it more effective and safe a must with unknown sources, have a great day….
DH TRISMEGISTUS
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
HOW TO WASH THE SHIT…..You need your acetone you need a glass bowl that shallow with straight sides and not too wide about 4 inches. 10 cm is a good size and get a pointy knife. Then put your “shit” in a bowl had cold acetone and you want enough that it can dissolve everything but acetone contains water which means lost meth so the water dissolved. The meth 30 to 50 mL is usually enough for 1/2 to 1 g you’ll need more if your bowl has a large larger service area just swish it around and then use that knife to break up larger pieces of impurities. You’ll be able to see them the last time the math is in the acetone, the last chance it will have a getting dissolved, so do it with the quickness, but don’t hurry and fuck up everything a minute or so will be fine. Tip the ball onto an angle and swish it around so that all of the math together in a corner, let it settle out for a little bit then very slowly tip the bowl around so that the meth stays in the corner and the acetone drains off and is now on the other side of it. The acetone can be poured off or you can leave the bowl propped up at an angle and let it evaporate a small amount of meth will be in the acetone. You can pour it off and do another bowl and then do more acetone washes on it if you want, but also remember use the minimum number of bowls because each one will contribute to the loss if you pour it off into a second bowl and do another wash do the next pour off into the first bowl after the clean shit has been removed. Let the shit dry out completely. Just let it sit there or put it in the sun for a while. It should now be clean more acetone washes can be performed. If it still looks to be dirty. Ideally, you should re-crystallize it in between acetone washes and even before the first wash, the clean stuff will be white and cloudy crystal that gives off a white vapor when he did and will leave only the smallest river residue after it is all vaporized don’t burn it or let the flame hit it.
Then you are going to re-crystallize it with ethanol or methylated spirits work fine. You need a knife or a metal skewer to help you break up those stubborn pieces, the large of the surface area of the bowl the more mechanical loss you will have any part of the bowl at the methylated spirit comes in contact with will be left with a tiny amount of math once it evaporates if you tried to do 1/2 of a gram on something the size of a baking tray you will get a shit yield so put the meth in a bowl heat a small amount of methylated spirits in a glass in the microwave put it in for a very short period of time as a little time as possible using more isn’t bad it just takes longer to evaporate 20 to 30 mL for 1/2 g should do swish it around or agitated. Use the knife to help break up any bits that won’t dissolve some of the impurities will dissolve someone won’t if you’re unsure at a tiny bit more methylated spirits, and see if any more dissolves if not, then it’s probably an impurity if there are unsolved impurities tip the bowl to an angle and agitated swish it around, so that all of the impurities are together in the corner let it settle out for a while and slowly tip the ball around so that the crap stays where it is and the methylated spirits drain off and is now on the other side of the bowl, scrape the crap out of that bowl next, let it evaporate the slower the better this will form larger crystals just leave it on the bench or in the sun just be sure to let it stay still as moving it about will damage the growing process and they won’t end up as big. Make sure it is 100% dry because if you do an acetone wash while it’s wet, then the meth will dissolve if the methylated spirits will dissolve in the acetone. “ for educational purposes only.”
May the force be with you..
DH Trismegistus
Then you are going to re-crystallize it with ethanol or methylated spirits work fine. You need a knife or a metal skewer to help you break up those stubborn pieces, the large of the surface area of the bowl the more mechanical loss you will have any part of the bowl at the methylated spirit comes in contact with will be left with a tiny amount of math once it evaporates if you tried to do 1/2 of a gram on something the size of a baking tray you will get a shit yield so put the meth in a bowl heat a small amount of methylated spirits in a glass in the microwave put it in for a very short period of time as a little time as possible using more isn’t bad it just takes longer to evaporate 20 to 30 mL for 1/2 g should do swish it around or agitated. Use the knife to help break up any bits that won’t dissolve some of the impurities will dissolve someone won’t if you’re unsure at a tiny bit more methylated spirits, and see if any more dissolves if not, then it’s probably an impurity if there are unsolved impurities tip the bowl to an angle and agitated swish it around, so that all of the impurities are together in the corner let it settle out for a while and slowly tip the ball around so that the crap stays where it is and the methylated spirits drain off and is now on the other side of the bowl, scrape the crap out of that bowl next, let it evaporate the slower the better this will form larger crystals just leave it on the bench or in the sun just be sure to let it stay still as moving it about will damage the growing process and they won’t end up as big. Make sure it is 100% dry because if you do an acetone wash while it’s wet, then the meth will dissolve if the methylated spirits will dissolve in the acetone. “ for educational purposes only.”
May the force be with you..
DH Trismegistus
In North Florida the ice that I've run into is clean as fuck, like so clean I can see people through the shards, but I also don't source things locally because the prices are inflated.
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
We got like an endless amount here on the West Coast
Mexican cartel meth, small batch,
R1A1 aka selenium amphetamine I used the AMINE in organo selenium and connected it to the benzine ring.
Mexican cartel meth, small batch,
R1A1 aka selenium amphetamine I used the AMINE in organo selenium and connected it to the benzine ring.
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
I lived in south beach for a hot minute and every type of dope is tip top there
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
Mine is GLASS pure transparency #do it yrslf small batch is the finest.
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
Do you live in the Midwest or something? Out here in the West Coast we get good shit also you need to clean your shit with acetone. There’s a lot of impurities that you need to take out of it. That makes it more pure and safe. On the West Coast, we have like three different types of dope we got our Methican Cartel, it’s pretty much made the exact same way every time you can totally identify it by a subtle grease on the small clear and glass crystals once you wash your meth with acetone
OK, I am able to explain a certain amount of this if y’all would like to read it
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
What 3 different types of dope are you referring to? Like three different types of meth?
fuckabout89
Bluelighter
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I figured some of the good stuff I got on the deeperweb was straight from the source it definitely looked different and had pungent odor. Not all of its bad pn street it just varies so much, yes im in one of the dakotas
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
1 CRYSTAL METH -pseudoephedrine or ephedrine Another method is phenyl-2-propanone 2. (P-2-P or benzyl methyl ketone . red phosphorus, lithium, iodine, and anhydrous ammonia.
2.Pseudoephedrine/Ephedrine-from over-the-counter cold and allergy medication.
3. P-2-P Phenyl-2-propanone Also called benzyl methyl ketone or phenylacetone,
4.MAPA (Methyl alpha-phenylacetoacetate (Ephedrine/Pseudoephedrine): hydrocloric acid/red phosphorus or iodine/red phosphorus
5. 5RA METH P-2-P is used W like methylamine) . Cold tablets processed using
Anhydrous Ammonia: Lithium .Red phosphorus s hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide (lye).
Last but not least
6. .R1A1 organo selenium based compound introduced to the benzene ring that is AMAZING SHIT my small batch method
This is definitely edging up on synthesis talk and it probably shouldn't go any further, but just as a heads up, the outcome of different routes to production like you're discussing here, on paper, should not lead to a different end product, but that's not completely conclusively proven. I am curious about what the selenium-based thing is that you're talking about though, I'd prefer it to be a DM but if you have any information on that I'd love to read up on it. Maybe editing this post to conceal some of the synthetic info would be helpful too, there are other forums that are oriented at that but Bluelight is not one of them, I've often made the mistake myself and had to run back to edit things.
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
I’m referring to all the kinds I know about there are most definitely more
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
kewl
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
What kind of An odor .?
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
Source locally for qualitative research it’s worth the extra
Is it really decent ? So cal has worst crap istherre still great meth anywhere ?
Dr. Trismegistus
Bluelighter
Have you been to North Beach? I used to get coke and heroin there easily from the black G’s