🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2026 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

[perpetualdawn]

I took a tiny dose 7mg each of 2C-D and 2C-B. As expected they synergize i feel like im tripping noticeably harder than 14mg of either alone, tho at this dose effects are difficult to describe. Maybe a bit like less bodyload 2C-E.

Also, not complaining but ive noticed a huge influx of greenlighters recently.

New marketing campaign??

Good point re the influx. I noticed without taking note if you know what I mean. Neat experiment with 2c-d +2c-b, sounds like a good combo.

 

[Didgital]

Good point re the influx. I noticed without taking note if you know what I mean. Neat experiment with 2c-d +2c-b, sounds like a good combo.

It was ok. I kept the doses very light. They certainly synergized. Heres the TR if you wanted to read.

Thread 'Combo 2C-B and 2C-D (7mg each)'

Apr 16, 2026

Ok..

So I've been wanting to explore this combination for some time. Just to note I have combined 2C-E with 2C-B before and while that was a crazy psychedelic experience, since then I've learned that the 4 alkyl 2C's do exhibit some MAOi properties. So this experience was planned taking that in consideration. I'm not encouraging my behavior, only documenting it for future reference and HR knowledge. AFAIK there's no reports of this combo and it's possible that high doses of each could lead to serious medical problems.

T+0:00 I measured 7-8mg of each separately (my scale is a $100 mg...

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[Esperighanto]

mda and allylescaline

This combination slaps severely, allylescaline, MDA, LSD and 3-HO-PCP was one of the most beautiful trips of my life. Watched Jaws during it, hell of a movie choice that night.

Good point re the influx. I noticed without taking note if you know what I mean. Neat experiment with 2c-d +2c-b, sounds like a good combo.

This influx had me put "Check BL" on my daily routines list again instead of every few days, it's keeping me on my toes a little bit more, I appreciate the heads up from you guys though as I thought I noticed it but then just figured I was psyching myself into an ill-founded belief.

 

[RhythmSpring]

Arf

 

[SuperPsych]

I personally find 4-aco-met can be very underwhelming by itself and always feels lacking in something- definite mood lift and visuals but a very shallow experience- I'm sure others would disagree and have had some deep experiences with it. Maybe I'm just feeling less because I'm wanting more. Haven't tried 4-ho-mipt, but if you've never taken any synthetic tryptamines I can't vouch for 4-aco-dmt enough. Trends towards the spiritual/introspective experience especially at higher doses, but no more than pscilocybin mushrooms I don't think. As it's supposed to metablozise into psilocin, that isn't surprising, though I think a lotta people would say it is somewhat distinct from a psilocin high. It may be that i just like the consistency of effects of the same dose compared to dried mushrooms, and that it's as simple a thing to ingest 60mg as it is 15 or 20mg (as opposed to having to eat a handfull of mushrooms, or grind them and put em in capsules, or prepare tea) and can be IV'd for a real wild ride.

Apologies for the week late response

I have the EXACT same thing with 4-ACO-MET. Feels very shallow. 4-HO-MET is one of my favorite psychedelics for recreation. It's very manageable, good mood lift, very light headspace, and yet, at least for me, it doesn't really feel shallow. Like, 4-HO-MET is still effective for my depression. I wake up the next day feeling better typically.

Not the case with 4-ACO-MET. 4-ACO-MET is kinda like 4-HO-MET but with a heavy bodyload and no spirit. Pretty empty. Tho, I haven't tried it a ton as I have a decent collection and I find 4-ACO-MET to have a very tense body load.

4-HO-MIPT is my favorite tryptamine that I've tried. Recommend everyone try it who can. Very introspective and spiritually full, and FULL of humor. Love miprocin

 

[Esperighanto]

Has anybody here ever experienced (or witnessed) elliptical pupillary dilation? I took some photos of my eyes earlier, very close up after coadministering 28mg of methamphetamine, and 750 micrograms of DOB in a gel cap, an hour later insufflating ~35mg of noopept, and within 30 minutes after that taking a photo that clearly shows my pupil dilating far more vertically than it is horizontally, creating an oval sort of dilation. Upon noticing, I asked my fiance if he could see it, and he sure could. The pupillary dilation became circular ~4.5-5 hours after taking the DOB, approximately 3.5-4 hours after the noopept was administered, meaning that right as the noopept wore off, the pupillary dilation returned to normal.

I've both experienced and been around noopept potentiating LSD for folks, does it also have an effect over DOB? Tonight I was testing this hunch that my fiance and I have where we feel like DOB cuts straight through LSD-induced-tolerance for some reason. Since our initial encounters with the drug, it's one of the only things that we can take a day or two after a large dose of LSD and feel it the same as if we hadn't taken that LSD recently. Acid's biggest downfall is the tolerance it induces, so DOB was a breath of fresh air amongst the weeks spent not tripping to atone for my acidic sins. I've tested this in one other person, and I measured BP/pulse changes as well as pupillary dilation and they reported effects, DOB at least appears to be able to cut through an acid tolerance, but I don't know why. I hope others here will read about this and, if they can, experiment with it to see if this idea holds water elsewhere.

I've been taking LSD (in pretty comically huge doses) every other day for the past 12 days like it's some sort of multivitamin. It's done wonders for my wellbeing and mental health, I'm genuinely happier and more lively than I've been in about half a decade. I had asked one of my closest friends which drugs seemed to have had the greatest impact(s) on my personality, and the first thing he said, immediate and without thought or hesitation, was that pre-acid me vs. post-acid me are two totally different people. And he's right, I was taught an enormous amount by that molecule even upon just my first exposure, and since then I've used it hundreds of times and within my own social sphere, I'm probably the most acid-stained person I've met so far, even among traffickers I know of who have quite strictly dealt with LSD. The way that specifically LSD, even moreso than harmalas or DMT or anything else, has an impact on my personality is not just something I feel, apparently it's noticeable from the outside too. I became a lot more mentally stable, emotionally open, clearly motivated and cognitively engaged with the world around me.

DOB has never offered me a single morsel of value, not anything even in the same ballpark as LSD nor DOM have. DOC has been useful too. 3C-P, on my single trip with it so far, even alluded towards being a more profound substance, for some reason DOB is, much like 2C-B, kind of an ambiguous seasoning you need to mix into your meal alongside other things that lead the dish. Today it's been methamphetamine, memantine, bupropion, caffeine, THC/HHC/THC-B, and then the DOB about 20 hours into the whole ordeal (alongside a reup on the ice). In the presence of memantine, DOB seems to come more correct, it feels like I could learn more from this headspace than usual, but it's also got me possessed with a fervent vigor and manic spirit akin to 3-MeO-PCP, I would easily end up doing foolish shit for no reason as a result of this specific altered state. I spent almost three uninterrupted hours talking to (at?) my fiance about math rock and adjacent genres tonight, showing him so much mediocre music, it's a fucking tragedy. What kind of headspace does a grown man have to be in to care that much about time signatures?

As I'm sure is apparent, I'm obviously still deep in the shits. I took the DOB 5.5 hours ago, and while 750 micrograms is a noticeable amount that's marginally over threshold but still not very impressive on its own, the memantine I took 20 or so hours ago will last a total of 36, so I'm still swimming in the same pharmacological cocktail as I was this past morning somehow, except now with DOB. I also feel as though DOB, 2C-B, 25B-NBOMe and 25B-NBOH share this ineffable set of characteristics that I can only assume is related to their shared 2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromophenyl structures, my fiance has noticed this but I do not know anyone else who's used at least 3 of those 4 drugs who I could ask. DOB is one of the only drugs I ever take that can interrupt sleep, I'll sleep clean through LSD or meth but not DOB. Taking it at 9PM was a foolish move, but I've committed to the bit already, fuck it. My hunch that 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-bromophenyl compounds are also irregularly impacted by cannabinoid coadministration has been reinforced by my trip today, but I'm curious if others here have noticed that 25B-NBOMe/25B-NBOH/DOB/2C-B seem to become amplified more heavily by cannabis than any other 2,5-dimethoxy-4-[not bromo]phenyl drugs, I have experience with 25I-NBOMe, 25E-NBOH, DOC, DOM, and 25C-NBOMe as far as those go. All of those respond how a psychedelic phenethylamine normally would to cannabis, but if the 4 contains a bromine a small amount of cannabinoid activity seems to go much further as far as potentiation goes, but I have no idea as to why. The understudied receptors that are possibly cannabinoid receptors (GPR55, GPR18 and GPR119) are believed to have some relationship to 5HT2a receptor density, possibly they influence one another via biochemical circuits we have yet to fully map out, I'm not sure. If this were the case, I would suspect it to also occur with 4-fluoro substitutions, but the only good reports I can find are for DOF and that one sure does seem like a peculiar compound.

For as much as I consider DOB's headspace to have been rather useless so far, the same could be said of 2C-B. What they lack in body though they make up for in how interesting they are as seasoning on that main dish, so to speak. DOB and 2C-B both feel like they are best cast as side characters in a film, never truly the main focus for too long dare the audience notice how shallow their character truly is. This stands in stark contrast to DOM and DOC, which are both fantastic compounds I would like a milk jug full of them at the side of my desk. As far as these all go in the 25B-NBXX space, I feel like 25B-NBOH and 25B-NBOMe still have a character similar to 2C-B or DOB, but with noticeably more body, only the superficial trappings of 2C-B/DOB remain in the -NBOH and -NBOMe compounds, in my opinion. I have only vaporized 25B-NBOMe, and have only sublingually administered 25B-NBOH, but have used both 10-20 times each, occasionally in tandem with other drugs like LSD or 2C-B. 25B-NBOH mixed well with 25I-NBOMe, and 25B-NBOMe mixed well with 25E-NBOH. It was a bit much when I put all four of those aforementioned drugs together though, in very small amounts all four were coadministered last summer, the trip was of an intensity that borders upon the inscrutable, I don't think there was much to take from it in the first place but whatever there was to take, I probably didn't care for, so I left the trip just puzzled, generally confused over what it could have possibly been trying to communicate to me. 2C-B has been catching a lot of strays in this comment of mine, but I really do adore it, it's just a shallow, empty headed bimbo psychedelic (bimbodelic?) that needs guidance and direction, lest it fall off into being as useless as to have just got me to refer to it as a bimbodelic haha.

Oh man, the word count is 1402, I don't think it's record setting for my BL account but it would fill around 5 pages of a 5"x8" book, so that's something.

 

[xdrc]

2C-B taught me that life is worth living and beautiful, and I find that important and "deep" enough to never question the value it had in my life. I'm not using it much these days being drawn to different and otherwise introspectively worthwhile experiences (so I get what you mean by "shallow"), but it holds a big place in my heart as friend and ally. I also object to it being a "bimbodelic", the B clearly stands for "boofing" (although I personally prefer p.o. with phenethylamines).

 

[Didgital]

I took 2C-D with MDMA and it's very nice.

I could have timed things better, but I wanted to go ala shulgin. If I regretted anything it was the 3rd 50mg dose. I should have taken a bit more and then the 2C-D here.

T+0:00 50mg MDMA
T+1:00 50mg MDMA
T +2:00 50mg MDMA

T + 3:00 70mg MDMA +37mg 2C-D

MDMA seems to be extended going harder.. Slight headache. Maybe a little visual.. blurry? sharp? A little nauseaous but not bad. I feel very relaxed. The speedy side of 2C-D is not showing, tho my thoughts may be going a bit faster than wtih MDMA alone.. Stretching feels great. Visuals are def a bit more than what MD would be alone, but it's kind of what one would expec.

may make some coffee, Did so and it tasted amazing but maybe 20min immediate nausuea and it all came back up. Tried again, didn't work. Went outside to catch sunrise and maybe it was the overcast day, but it didn't seem overly special? I wish it had been a more blue day but I know this area can really use the rain.

Hite a little bit of hash oil and that immedately slowed things down for me and settled my stomach quite a bit. Headache never really went away, but I imagine it was the 3x dosing of MD

I'ma call it D-Rolling ...while the experience was very clear, there were probably moments I could have drooled with pleasure.

 

[Esperighanto]

2C-B taught me that life is worth living and beautiful, and I find that important and "deep" enough to never question the value it had in my life. I'm not using it much these days being drawn to different and otherwise introspectively worthwhile experiences (so I get what you mean by "shallow"), but it holds a big place in my heart as friend and ally. I also object to it being a "bimbodelic", the B clearly stands for "boofing" (although I personally prefer p.o. with phenethylamines).

I'll give you this, I am lovingly referring to it as a bimbodelic, it's the one and only, the best in class. No other substance can have an empty head and still be so pretty. 2C-B is a big friend and ally to myself also, it's been an invaluable tool, but I feel that closeness necessitates clarity as far as my understanding of it goes, if that makes sense. If 2C-B is a bimbo-coded psychedelic though, I have no idea what that makes DOB. Last night it gave me vertical (but not horizontal) pupillary dilation and now I'm hesitant to label it anything silly, but I do adore goofy names for these profound things.

 

[iom]

I have experience with 2C-B and a lot of 2C-X but not really any DOX or NBXX. I think 2C-B is certainly special in its own way, and it's definitely quite different from and not "half-way between" 2C-C and 2C-I (two other 4-halogens). It is also probably the most easy going and forgiving psychedelic I've had overall. I wouldn't say it's devoid of insight, but perhaps it is more subtle and not as forceful as other psychedelics.

Actually 2C-C may offer even less insight and be easier-going than even 2C-B. However, 2C-C is just kind of meh overall. It's rather fuzzy and sedating, lacking the kind of sparkle, energy, and warmth that 2C-B has. It was probably my least favorite 2C-X psychedelic. Though it did seem to have utility of being something relatively easy to take in public.

As far as cannabis and 2C-B goes, no I don't notice any unique enhancement from this combination. Generally I find I enjoy cannabis with all psychedelics provided I'm not in the peak of a strong dose. Certainly other 2C-X drugs seem to get a big extra kick from some cannabis. The visuals on 2C-I can be quite incredible to begin with, but add cannabis and things get really wild. Cannabis on 2C-E can be seriously intense.

 

[Camomill]

Anyone still fiddling with 2c-ef?
Enjoying this compound very much, although it really is somewhat rough on the heart/blood flow.
It really pushes the body but I wouldn't even consider that negative.
Just have to prepare a little...
Although I have never taken more than 6-7mg-ish

 

[perpetualdawn]

"Bimbodelic" that's hilarious and not wrong IMO
I need to explore the other halogenated 2C's some time - I've barely dipped my toes in the water with 2C-I and been sitting on 2C-C for ages.
2C-EF is pretty intriguing from all the legend around it. I imagine it being a bit like half way between 2C-E and 2C-P since that F is like a 0.5 on the chain or something. The duration agrees with this concept but not sure about the subjective effects.

I forget if 2C-DF was ever made or explored (2C-MF? I mean something like 2C-D with an F attached to the methyl on the 4-position). Something midway between D and E would be very interesting. Maybe theres a chemisty reason this doesn't work.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I would like to explore the 2Cs again. Still haven't gotten my hands on 2C-B after all these years. 2C-P's duration was enough to keep me away from the class for a long time.

I'll never forget giving my best friend 2C-P. He saw the amount of material in the capsule and thought I was yanking his chain about how long it would last. I told him multiple times it was a 3 hour wait then a 12+ hour ride. By the time first alerts started he was yammer on about how I'd gotten screwed over. Then we finally start getting somewhere and he says "So we're coming down in 3 hours, right?".

No sir. We aren't.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Thinking about that night with 2C-P reminded me that I always without fail end up coming up in a bathroom. I guess because I want to clear out my bowels and all the usual psychedelics get them moving. Thinking back I don't think I've ever started a trip without taking a huge dump. Well maybe the first time with shrooms. When I spent half the night worrying that I'd shit myself and having to stick my hand down my pants to confirm I wasn't walking around in my own mess. Eventually, I figured out I was just sweating or something. The body high from shrooms always screws with my head.

Anyway, that first night with 2C-P I ended up in one bathroom and my friend in another. We both stunk up the house and got lost in the patterns on the bathroom floors. The one in the bathroom I used was a checkered black and white pattern floor. I can't remember the pattern of the other one. My friend told me I had to go look and see but the smell was unbearable.

For 10+ hours I could not remember what the proper name for curtains were. I kept having to refer to them as "wall rugs". My friend couldn't recall the right word for it either.

We dosed at 9pm, didn't start getting first alerts until around midnight and sat up all night together in his trailer in the middle of nowhere. Hadn't seen each other in years. I moved back from the city with a bag full of fun stuff and showed up randomly on him on my second day in town after a good sleep. Didn't have to talk him into tripping and he enjoyed all the bomb kind bud I'd brought back from the city. Back then my small hometown still didn't have any good weed unless you knew a grower. I had three different kinds because I made sure to stock up before leaving the big city.

12-15mg of 2C-P and all that good high quality bud put my friend in space. A really fun substance. Not too much of a mind fuck either. I never felt like I do when I take a lot of shrooms or LSD. The only down side is the duration is hard on the body. So by the 10th hour we were both feeling it. I'd just torn out my right knee and it was messing with me hard all night. I could feel every major injury I'd ever sustained in life. Everything hurt. Eventually, I had to procure us some opioids. My friend was in worse shape than I was because he had a horrible childhood due to a birth defect. Where they'd broken bones over and over again to reset them so he could walk on his own. He was in pretty bad shape by the next morning.

Watching the sun rise on a fresh snow on 2C-P was really cool. Amazing light show. I wish I'd stocked up on more of it. I would have liked to try it in combination with MDMA, MXE and some other favorites. It 2C-B is similar but a shorter duration I can see why it's so highly praised.

I did try to combo it with the last of my MXE IIRC. But I either screwed up administration or the MXE overpowered it to the point where it didn't do much of anything. I probably under-dosed it. I was using rectal administration and was worried about the effects being too strong through that route. At the time there was zero information about 2C-P's strength and duration through non-oral/nasal routes.

2C-T-7 was also pretty fun but I was an idiot that snorted it so I spent most of my time on it worrying about dying due to all the stories I'd read about it being harmful through that route. I don't know why I decided to snort it instead of eating it. I think my logic was along the lines of I could gauge effects quicker/easier through that route. In reality, I was just snorting anything I could at the time. Burns like hell. Like razor blades in the nose. The only thing I'd snorted that was worse than 2C-T-7 was DPT. Methadone tablets were close to the pain but the 2Cs have this unique ability to burn like hell and make your nose bleed.

I gave that same friend some 2C-T-7 one time. He accused me of experimenting on him like a lab rat. We didn't dose together that night. He wanted his dose right then and wanted to snort it despite my warnings. I let him. I had to drive so I held off on dosing for about an hour until I'd dropped his roommate off at their house and drove us back to my place. He said we couldn't be friends anymore if I didn't take some RIGHT NOW. Then he thought I'd never took it before because I was hesitant to snort it again. I just needed a moment to prep myself for the burn I knew was coming.

That's the extend of my fun with the 2Cs. When they were more widely available I was afraid to have them shipped to my address. At the time I didn't have my own place and was worried I'd draw attention to my parent's illegal activities. By the time I grew some balls and started using the post man as my drug dealer the 2Cs were long gone. I've had a few people offer me 2C-B over the years at festivals and parties. But I was always weary about it not being what was advertised. None of them would ever let me try it for free and they were sketchy.

I figure at some point I'll run into someone that wants to share and get a taste. I've stacked up a bunch of good karma over the years handing out various substances for free. At some point that goodwill will come back around I hope. I hear 2C-B in combination with MDMA is really really fun.

 

[xdrc]

"Bimbodelic" that's hilarious and not wrong IMO
I need to explore the other halogenated 2C's some time - I've barely dipped my toes in the water with 2C-I and been sitting on 2C-C for ages.
2C-EF is pretty intriguing from all the legend around it. I imagine it being a bit like half way between 2C-E and 2C-P since that F is like a 0.5 on the chain or something. The duration agrees with this concept but not sure about the subjective effects.

I forget if 2C-DF was ever made or explored (2C-MF? I mean something like 2C-D with an F attached to the methyl on the 4-position). Something midway between D and E would be very interesting. Maybe theres a chemisty reason this doesn't work.

@realgar has posted a small report of 2C-DFM here, the difluoro analogon. The monofluoro one would be metabolically even more instable (and thus to be weary of), locate his post for additional information. Apparently these monofluorine and difluoro benzyl compounds of activated aromats (methoxy groups) can indeed cleave and covalently bond.

Speaking about 2C-C, in my opinion that one is very mild and truly shallow. That one is more deserving of the title "bimbodelic" than 2C-B, have you tried it @Esperighanto ? I won't exclude the possibility that it may go deeper by increasing the dose or under the right circumstances, but I did not feel much more depth from ~55 mg than to ~35 mg (the latter which is my standard oral dose of the hydrochloride). Personally I see 2C-C as a "lava lamp" compound. Nice to see the flowing visuals and relax (I like the flowing more than with 2C-B, it's just so gentle and alive), but not much beyond it.

 

[Esperighanto]

@realgar has posted a small report of 2C-DFM here, the difluoro analogon. The monofluoro one would be metabolically even more instable (and thus to be weary of), locate his post for additional information. Apparently these monofluorine and difluoro benzyl compounds of activated aromats (methoxy groups) can indeed cleave and covalently bond.

Speaking about 2C-C, in my opinion that one is very mild and truly shallow. That one is more deserving of the title "bimbodelic" than 2C-B, have you tried it @Esperighanto ? I won't exclude the possibility that it may go deeper by increasing the dose or under the right circumstances, but I did not feel much more depth from ~55 mg than to ~35 mg (the latter which is my standard oral dose of the hydrochloride). Personally I see 2C-C as a "lava lamp" compound. Nice to see the flowing visuals and relax (I like the flowing more than with 2C-B, it's just so gentle and alive), but not much beyond it.

I am quite curious about 2C-C, but as far as 2C-'s go I've only encountered 2C-B. Other 2,4,5-Trisubstituted phenethylamines like DOM, DOB, DOC, and then 5 N-benzylated phenethylamines (25B-NBOH, 25B-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe and 25E-NBOH) I've used quite a bit, but normal 2C's are quite rare where I am, and I've not had more space than a desk (which has cats frequently on it) to do anything pertaining to chemistry for a year and a half now.

It's one of those psychonautic goals in my life to try every configuration of the phenethylamine scaffold that I can acquire/conjure, which is even remotely safe. I'm specifically really curious about the gaps that were left even after Shulgin, Nichols and Trachsel all took swings at it, today I'm actually going to take a swing at listing out the yet-to-be-explored realms of psychedelic phenethylamines.

 

[iom]

Speaking about 2C-C, in my opinion that one is very mild and truly shallow. That one is more deserving of the title "bimbodelic" than 2C-B, have you tried it @Esperighanto ? I won't exclude the possibility that it may go deeper by increasing the dose or under the right circumstances, but I did not feel much more depth from ~55 mg than to ~35 mg (the latter which is my standard oral dose of the hydrochloride). Personally I see 2C-C as a "lava lamp" compound. Nice to see the flowing visuals and relax (I like the flowing more than with 2C-B, it's just so gentle and alive), but not much beyond it.

Wow! That description of 2C-C as a "lava lamp compound" really nails it. Good job!

 

[Camomill]

Thinking about that night with 2C-P reminded me that I always without fail end up coming up in a bathroom. I guess because I want to clear out my bowels and all the usual psychedelics get them moving. Thinking back I don't think I've ever started a trip without taking a huge dump. Well maybe the first time with shrooms. When I spent half the night worrying that I'd shit myself and having to stick my hand down my pants to confirm I wasn't walking around in my own mess. Eventually, I figured out I was just sweating or something. The body high from shrooms always screws with my head.

Anyway, that first night with 2C-P I ended up in one bathroom and my friend in another. We both stunk up the house and got lost in the patterns on the bathroom floors. The one in the bathroom I used was a checkered black and white pattern floor. I can't remember the pattern of the other one. My friend told me I had to go look and see but the smell was unbearable.

For 10+ hours I could not remember what the proper name for curtains were. I kept having to refer to them as "wall rugs". My friend couldn't recall the right word for it either.

We dosed at 9pm, didn't start getting first alerts until around midnight and sat up all night together in his trailer in the middle of nowhere. Hadn't seen each other in years. I moved back from the city with a bag full of fun stuff and showed up randomly on him on my second day in town after a good sleep. Didn't have to talk him into tripping and he enjoyed all the bomb kind bud I'd brought back from the city. Back then my small hometown still didn't have any good weed unless you knew a grower. I had three different kinds because I made sure to stock up before leaving the big city.

12-15mg of 2C-P and all that good high quality bud put my friend in space. A really fun substance. Not too much of a mind fuck either. I never felt like I do when I take a lot of shrooms or LSD. The only down side is the duration is hard on the body. So by the 10th hour we were both feeling it. I'd just torn out my right knee and it was messing with me hard all night. I could feel every major injury I'd ever sustained in life. Everything hurt. Eventually, I had to procure us some opioids. My friend was in worse shape than I was because he had a horrible childhood due to a birth defect. Where they'd broken bones over and over again to reset them so he could walk on his own. He was in pretty bad shape by the next morning.

Watching the sun rise on a fresh snow on 2C-P was really cool. Amazing light show. I wish I'd stocked up on more of it. I would have liked to try it in combination with MDMA, MXE and some other favorites. It 2C-B is similar but a shorter duration I can see why it's so highly praised.

I did try to combo it with the last of my MXE IIRC. But I either screwed up administration or the MXE overpowered it to the point where it didn't do much of anything. I probably under-dosed it. I was using rectal administration and was worried about the effects being too strong through that route. At the time there was zero information about 2C-P's strength and duration through non-oral/nasal routes.

2C-T-7 was also pretty fun but I was an idiot that snorted it so I spent most of my time on it worrying about dying due to all the stories I'd read about it being harmful through that route. I don't know why I decided to snort it instead of eating it. I think my logic was along the lines of I could gauge effects quicker/easier through that route. In reality, I was just snorting anything I could at the time. Burns like hell. Like razor blades in the nose. The only thing I'd snorted that was worse than 2C-T-7 was DPT. Methadone tablets were close to the pain but the 2Cs have this unique ability to burn like hell and make your nose bleed.

I gave that same friend some 2C-T-7 one time. He accused me of experimenting on him like a lab rat. We didn't dose together that night. He wanted his dose right then and wanted to snort it despite my warnings. I let him. I had to drive so I held off on dosing for about an hour until I'd dropped his roommate off at their house and drove us back to my place. He said we couldn't be friends anymore if I didn't take some RIGHT NOW. Then he thought I'd never took it before because I was hesitant to snort it again. I just needed a moment to prep myself for the burn I knew was coming.

That's the extend of my fun with the 2Cs. When they were more widely available I was afraid to have them shipped to my address. At the time I didn't have my own place and was worried I'd draw attention to my parent's illegal activities. By the time I grew some balls and started using the post man as my drug dealer the 2Cs were long gone. I've had a few people offer me 2C-B over the years at festivals and parties. But I was always weary about it not being what was advertised. None of them would ever let me try it for free and they were sketchy.

I figure at some point I'll run into someone that wants to share and get a taste. I've stacked up a bunch of good karma over the years handing out various substances for free. At some point that goodwill will come back around I hope. I hear 2C-B in combination with MDMA is really really fun.

Well taking a dump and all that may come with it, is a happily overlooked topic more often than not. Even when talking about health or the body in general I'd say. It's the colon after all. I mean not that i particularly enjoy talking about my colon etc but yes its just part of the whole thing. So, always good to see that.

Was an interesting story to read.

can only agree, same with nasal ROA 2C's. Doing so with 2C-B does burn on a different level than other things.

@realgar has posted a small report of 2C-DFM here, the difluoro analogon. The monofluoro one would be metabolically even more instable (and thus to be weary of), locate his post for additional information. Apparently these monofluorine and difluoro benzyl compounds of activated aromats (methoxy groups) can indeed cleave and covalently bond.

Speaking about 2C-C, in my opinion that one is very mild and truly shallow. That one is more deserving of the title "bimbodelic" than 2C-B, have you tried it @Esperighanto ? I won't exclude the possibility that it may go deeper by increasing the dose or under the right circumstances, but I did not feel much more depth from ~55 mg than to ~35 mg (the latter which is my standard oral dose of the hydrochloride). Personally I see 2C-C as a "lava lamp" compound. Nice to see the flowing visuals and relax (I like the flowing more than with 2C-B, it's just so gentle and alive), but not much beyond it.

The more I hear something like this the more i get wary of EF, to be honest.
At least there is something special about it but I haven't tried any other than these 2.

also there is the study finding no trace of defluorination, either in EF or DOEF something, not too sure

 

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The more I hear something like this the more i get wary of EF, to be honest.
At least there is something special about it but I haven't tried any other than these 2.

also there is the study finding no trace of defluorination, either in EF or DOEF something, not too sure

The benzylic position is more reactive than the fluoroethyl position in 2C-EF. There is a metabolic study for 2C-EF-Fly which shows defluorination, and one for 2C-EF which shows no defluorination.

 

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"Bimbodelic" that's hilarious and not wrong IMO
I need to explore the other halogenated 2C's some time - I've barely dipped my toes in the water with 2C-I and been sitting on 2C-C for ages.
2C-EF is pretty intriguing from all the legend around it. I imagine it being a bit like half way between 2C-E and 2C-P since that F is like a 0.5 on the chain or something. The duration agrees with this concept but not sure about the subjective effects.

I forget if 2C-DF was ever made or explored (2C-MF? I mean something like 2C-D with an F attached to the methyl on the 4-position). Something midway between D and E would be very interesting. Maybe theres a chemisty reason this doesn't work.

If anyone has, it was traschel. How has it been this many years and no one has translated.

It even states 2C-O-22 active and potent