💊 Drug Discussion 💊 Most Expensive Drug of All Time

[KurtAurelius]

Prefer the the clear or slightly beige/pink stuff myself. Being couchlocked isn't a good MDMA experience afaic.

I want to be bouncing off the walls and grinning like a loon with eyes like saucers.

I agree, I’d be all up for that, but my friend group were absolutely reckless and we would mega dose MDMA as 13-14 year olds.

And most people say mega doses give you that stoned possession state lol

I wouldn’t be surprised if I have brain damage still to this day..

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Most so called “opium” being sold on the market is simply black tar heroin being rebranded as opium since selling true opium in bulk is costly and inefficient.

Black tar heroin is a US thing. Rarely seen elsewhere.

Chances are if you get opium over here, it's opium.

 

[Bleaney]

Black tar heroin is a US thing. Rarely seen elsewhere.

Chances are if you get opium over here, it's opium.

Yeah, although I've only extracted small amounts of latex from home grown poppies, it was very similar to the gram I bought off Silk Road, in taste, smell, appearance etc. So I'm pretty sure I received the genuine article.

Also someone with more experience, who knew about these things, ordered the same thing, and confirmed that it was 'good stuff', or words to that effect.

Not too sure regarding how refined it was though. It was a solid colour and texture throughout though, which I guess boded well, as to it being more refined than unrefined.

I'm more interested in opium than heroin for 2 reasons tbh:

Far less stigma, it seems to me that it's more of an 'exotic' item rather than something that is so heavily stigmatised, and it's essentially just the 'natural', 'minimally processed' version of the same substance, as far as I have gathered, at least.

I'm already carrying more than enough stigmatised things, and I can do without adding what would probably be the most heavily stigmatised thing of all, on top. No judgement on those that do use heroin, but it's just not for me.

 

[Syntherize]

I thought it was more. 1g of CO2 at STP is 0.5L volume. Pressurized gas takes up less volume.
The Mescaline I was referring to is the synthetic HCl variety. Cactus snot is probably fairly cheap if you can palate it.

I didn’t say cactus snot. I said needle point crystal extract, and it isn’t all that hard to do, but if your chemistry sucks then that’s all you’ll be able to make. Most mescaline isn’t even synthetic and often times dealers just try to pass 2C-x compounds as “mescaline” to the uninitiated. Honestly though, 2C-e is the closest to real mescaline that I’ve experienced.

 

[ions]

oh well. it's just rare to find it. or at least I've never seen any around. @Syntherize

 

[BadBoy377]

Yeah, although I've only extracted small amounts of latex from home grown poppies, it was very similar to the gram I bought off Silk Road, in taste, smell, appearance etc. So I'm pretty sure I received the genuine article.

Also someone with more experience, who knew about these things, ordered the same thing, and confirmed that it was 'good stuff', or words to that effect.

Not too sure regarding how refined it was though. It was a solid colour and texture throughout though, which I guess boded well, as to it being more refined than unrefined.

I'm more interested in opium than heroin for 2 reasons tbh:

Far less stigma, it seems to me that it's more of an 'exotic' item rather than something that is so heavily stigmatised, and it's essentially just the 'natural', 'minimally processed' version of the same substance, as far as I have gathered, at least.

I'm already carrying more than enough stigmatised things, and I can do without adding what would probably be the most heavily stigmatised thing of all, on top. No judgement on those that do use heroin, but it's just not for me.

Heyyyy, man. You're sound as fuck @Bleaney .

Don't worry what folk say about you. We know you're cool. If there's a stigma it's their problem.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Yeah, although I've only extracted small amounts of latex from home grown poppies, it was very similar to the gram I bought off Silk Road, in taste, smell, appearance etc. So I'm pretty sure I received the genuine article.

Also someone with more experience, who knew about these things, ordered the same thing, and confirmed that it was 'good stuff', or words to that effect.

Not too sure regarding how refined it was though. It was a solid colour and texture throughout though, which I guess boded well, as to it being more refined than unrefined.

I'm more interested in opium than heroin for 2 reasons tbh:

Far less stigma, it seems to me that it's more of an 'exotic' item rather than something that is so heavily stigmatised, and it's essentially just the 'natural', 'minimally processed' version of the same substance, as far as I have gathered, at least.

I'm already carrying more than enough stigmatised things, and I can do without adding what would probably be the most heavily stigmatised thing of all, on top. No judgement on those that do use heroin, but it's just not for me.

Dark web opium dissolved into brandy, with additional heroin, was enough for me to wake up with a paralysed right hand through sleeping on my arm.

Stayed mostly useless for weeks, but I did the physio and recovered just enough the week they were going to put me in the huge metal brace. Handwriting never the same again.

It's called radial neuropathy, or Saturday night palsy.

 

[Bleaney]

I wonder what damage all these spice heads, and tranq users in the USA, must be doing to themselves in a similar way, when they are nodding out, or their brains are going offline, or whatever is happening to them, when they end up contorted into all the famously bizarre postures we've all seen the footage of.

 

[BadBoy377]

I wonder what damage all these spice heads, and tranq users in the USA, must be doing to themselves in a similar way, when they are nodding out, or their brains are going offline, or whatever is happening to them, when they end up contorted into all the famously bizarre postures we've all seen the footage of.

Yeah, can't be good for you. But if your sleeping on concrete every night you probably need to totally annihilate your nervous system.

 

[chippermonk]

Oi, start your own thread! This is MY THREAD and it's price per gram.

Nah, just joking. I think we are agreed a gram of LSD is probably the most expensive.

So as @Mjäll said, how about price per dose. This does make it a bit harder though. My standard dose DHC is way higher than most other people's. But whatever.

Most expensive drug per dose... GO!

And if anyone has any advancement on LSD price for gram let's hear it

I say what the hell, let's have fun with the chat either way

 

[chippermonk]

Well, the OP asked what is the most expensive drug per gram and there are 454 grams in one pound, so if you divide it up per gram it isn’t really all that much. Try some Louis VIII Cognac going for over $4000 a bottle in a custom made Baccarat glass bottle that is worth $500 empty on its own…

Oh, I agree. But in the context of spending a lot of money for a normally very cheap drug like coffee, it's astronomical, I think must of us coffee addicts would agree. And that's all this discussion is imho, idle entertainment And yes, that's crazy expensive for a quantity of ethanol that would have the same effect in a dose of cheap rot gut liquor!
But going further with that, if we say a dose of caffeine in a cup of coffee is 200 mg, then it does get more expensive. And then there is the moral cost of abusing those poor civits, which is your soul.

 

[chippermonk]

I wonder what damage all these spice heads, and tranq users in the USA, must be doing to themselves in a similar way, when they are nodding out, or their brains are going offline, or whatever is happening to them, when they end up contorted into all the famously bizarre postures we've all seen the footage of.

Think of it as very slow motion, restful, deep yoga

 

[BadBoy377]

I say what the hell, let's have fun with the chat either way

Yeah man, that's what we're here for. Now quit hogging the bifter n pass it my way

 

[BadBoy377]

Think of it as very slow motion, restful, deep yoga

Or just trying out different variations of gravity.

 

[chippermonk]

Dark web opium dissolved into brandy, with additional heroin, was enough for me to wake up with a paralysed right hand through sleeping on my arm.

Stayed mostly useless for weeks, but I did the physio and recovered just enough the week they were going to put me in the huge metal brace. Handwriting never the same again.

It's called radial neuropathy, or Saturday night palsy.

"Saturday night palsy" I have to remember that one

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

per gram not per dose?

I hear MDPV is going for ALOT -- idk who would buy it. I also saw C-lam for the equivalent of 80k a g (and not from sigma uldrich or w/e) -- again who would pay that price is beyond fathom.

Per gram potency is obviously going to be a big factor -- I honestly dont know as prices are so all over the fckin place it is tough to say....( I am not plugged into the scene anymore )

Oxycodone at 1$ a mg (Easy last I checked) would be a 1k gram. hydromorphone last I checked 20 for 4 mg, thatd be 2k for 400mg's -- so like 5k a gram and I KNOW HAS DEMAND.

So realistically hydromorphone at 5k a gram is my answer (You hear me cartel, 5 k a g - pure powder form youd have custys!) lol

Shit I member buying 1g/litre for 500 -- which was two more than the guy wanted but I didnt want him asking around lol, "ill give ya 5 right now not to go anywhere with that!"

A gram of LSD would be worth more and have demand but I have no idear what full grams sell for -- 1plsd almost surely looked a better route to go at those prices. If your a purist though....

PS -- Isn't opium and brandy laudanum?

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Well, there are many ways to look at this, but I would say kopi luwak deserves a spot on the list. Coffee beans eaten in the wild by civets and then shit out ( unlike the cheaper variety, shit out by monkeys). It can go for $500 a pound, and a cup of kopi luwak coffee can you run you up to $100
Pretty expensive for a cuppa joe.
But I read that they are starting to capture civets and keep them in cages, forcing feeding them coffee berries, which is really fucked up and immoral bullshit.

Kopi luwak - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

True if you start looking at wine collectors and stuff this becomes a different game. Good thinkin

 

[Syntherize]

Black tar heroin is a US thing. Rarely seen elsewhere.

Chances are if you get opium over here, it's opium.

I’m from the east coast so we normally get #4 heroin, but if you really can procure real opium that’s great. Black tar isn’t difficult to manufacture since glacial acetic acid isn’t a watched chemical unlike acetic anhydride, and from my understanding black tar contains more 6-MAM which is slightly more potent than pure heroin and more euphoric.

oh well. it's just rare to find it. or at least I've never seen any around. @Syntherize

its actually a pretty simple tech using just isopropyl alcohol and time to get needle like clear shards, but I can’t go into too much detail about that here anymore since this forum isn’t what it used to be back in the 2000’s smh lol.

 

[ions]

I’m from the east coast so we normally get #4 heroin, but if you really can procure real opium that’s great. Black tar isn’t difficult to manufacture since glacial acetic acid isn’t a watched chemical unlike acetic anhydride, and from my understanding black tar contains more 6-MAM which is slightly more potent than pure heroin and more euphoric.

its actually a pretty simple tech using just isopropyl alcohol and time to get needle like clear shards, but I can’t go into too much detail about that here anymore since this forum isn’t what it used to be back in the 2000’s smh lol.

You're fine. I looked up the acid base with xylene method on erowid.

 

[cnnka]

Black tar is pretty popular in southern Europe and Germany.
Opium has lit more appeal for me also than H isn’t stigmatized it’s exotic it’s natural it lasts all day
Black tar smells like vinegar