Stimulants MKAT injecting

[Misterx1976]

Hi guys just a quick one
just wanted a bit of help on injecting MKAT
I’ve done before years ago and forgot if you need to heat it like heroin
Or can I just use cold bac water and mix it up and pin it cold?
Also is a lines worth enough to inject? Or is it usually a bit less you put in the pin
Thank you

 

[Shambles]

A little heat certainly helps dissolve the product.

I’d personally go a little over a line’s worth, but ultimately you know your own tolerance if considering pinning.

Just remember you can always add more the next time… but only if there is a next time

 

[Misterx1976]

A little heat certainly helps dissolve the product.

I’d personally go a little over a line’s worth, but ultimately you know your own tolerance if considering pinning.

Just remember you can always add more the next time… but only if there is a next time

Thank you very much for that
I get a decent hit off a line so it’s probably not worth it but I was just considering it again as I remember enjoying it last time

 

[Shambles]

I always found IV mephedrone to be pointless as I can see no meaningful difference from snorting, plugging, or even just bombing.

Each to their own though. Just play careful

 

[Misterx1976]

I always found IV mephedrone to be pointless as I can see no meaningful difference from snorting, plugging, or even just bombing.

Each to their own though. Just play careful

By bombing do you mean just eating it?
I haven’t tried that and snorting hurts my nose

 

[placebonaut]

bombing is eating, I take 280-300mg orally, either I make my own capsules, just stick it in a high sugar drink and neck it (it's bitter as fuck), or wrap it in a tiny bit of toilet paper (or if you smoke cigarette papers).

onset is longer than snorting but so is duration, and the high is smoother.

I snort it as well but usually when I want a quicker high, am using it with other things, or taking a lower dose.

oral is so much easier imho, certainly worth trying that before considering jumping straight to injecting it

Mephedrone - TripSit Wiki

wiki.tripsit.me

interesting bonus docu on Mephedrone that was a good watch

 

[BorbOrB]

I always found IV mephedrone to be pointless as I can see no meaningful difference from snorting, plugging, or even just bombing.

Each to their own though. Just play careful

IV with 4acodmt I was taken into another world for 30 minutes. Potentiated the 4acodmt and added a visual character that isn't present in tryptamines. My basement turned into a space ship, control panels and seats, all brightly colored and static, unchanging, first with an alien font script plastered over my eyes. Then it devolved into just 4acodmt and a cup on my bookshelf was grunting these disgusting gutteral noises at me and attacking me psychically.

 

[Misterx1976]

bombing is eating, I take 280-300mg orally, either I make my own capsules, just stick it in a high sugar drink and neck it (it's bitter as fuck), or wrap it in a tiny bit of toilet paper (or if you smoke cigarette papers).

onset is longer than snorting but so is duration, and the high is smoother.

I snort it as well but usually when I want a quicker high, am using it with other things, or taking a lower dose.

oral is so much easier imho, certainly worth trying that before considering jumping straight to injecting it

Mephedrone - TripSit Wiki

wiki.tripsit.me

interesting bonus docu on Mephedrone that was a good watch

How much do you suggest trying for first time bombing it?

 

[4DQSAR]

I feel it worth noting that there have been a few fatalities among those who injected mephedrone (4MMC). It's unclear bit as far as I can work out, some people were compulsively re-dosing until they had consumed a toxic dose.

So as long as you don't fall into that compusive catagory, it's no more hazardous than injecting any 'mystery powder' that may or may not be aseptic.

Go careful - I don't want to see your name in the Bluelight shrine.

I was never a fan but noted how people would just use a key or similar and keep snorting small quantities until the bag was empty - so assuming you haven't done that, you are not predisposed to compulsive use disorder.

 

[placebonaut]

How much do you suggest trying for first time bombing it?

I would start low and titrate up, you can add more but can't take it away, and you can always redose later on, or even better increase the dose the next time you take it another day, there's no rush getting it right.

Just remember onset is much longer, don't rush to redose because you think it's not working, and it's better to take on an empty stomach as eating slows onset down.

Maybe start somewhere in the common dosage range given you're experienced with snorting it 100-200mg, but you could also transpose over what you currently snort into an oral dose if you know what that is.

Another thing I do a lot is to take the initial dose orally but if I find it's not hitting hard enough once I know I'm fully up I may snort a few extra bumps rather than redose orally - again be careful on timing and how much.

 

[Misterx1976]

I feel it worth noting that there have been a few fatalities among those who injected mephedrone (4MMC). It's unclear bit as far as I can work out, some people were compulsively re-dosing until they had consumed a toxic dose.

So as long as you don't fall into that compusive catagory, it's no more hazardous than injecting any 'mystery powder' that may or may not be aseptic.

Go careful - I don't want to see your name in the Bluelight shrine.

I was never a fan but noted how people would just use a key or similar and keep snorting small quantities until the bag was empty - so assuming you haven't done that, you are not predisposed to compulsive use disorder.

Thank you for that I won’t be using IV that’s scared me away

 

[Misterx1976]

I would start low and titrate up, you can add more but can't take it away, and you can always redose later on, or even better increase the dose the next time you take it another day, there's no rush getting it right.

Just remember onset is much longer, don't rush to redose because you think it's not working, and it's better to take on an empty stomach as eating slows onset down.

Maybe start somewhere in the common dosage range given you're experienced with snorting it 100-200mg, but you could also transpose over what you currently snort into an oral dose if you know what that is.

Another thing I do a lot is to take the initial dose orally but if I find it's not hitting hard enough once I know I'm fully up I may snort a few extra bumps rather than redose orally - again be careful on timing and how much.

I don’t think my usual line is 100mg
I only usually snort maybe a lines worth you know like a line of coke
I’m not sure how much that is

 

[placebonaut]

I don’t think my usual line is 100mg
I only usually snort maybe a lines worth you know like a line of coke
I’m not sure how much that is

All peoples lines are different and if you're not weighing it who knows how much you're taking??

If you want to play it safe start by just taking your usual dose oral instead to get a feel for things, it won't feel as strong but will last longer, and titrate up to double your line taken orally which will be less than the equivalent insufflated dose (looking at tripsitter), from there gradually titrate up to find your sweet spot.

you should be fine just going with double your dose though, then titrate up from there

personally if I'm taking oral I like to weigh things and know exactly how much, I check and tirate up batch to batch. snorintg is a bit easier to get the sweet spot because you take a bump, then another until it's just right, with oral you're committing to your dose when you drop it so best be sure

 

[Shambles]

IV with 4acodmt I was taken into another world for 30 minutes. Potentiated the 4acodmt and added a visual character that isn't present in tryptamines. My basement turned into a space ship, control panels and seats, all brightly colored and static, unchanging, first with an alien font script plastered over my eyes. Then it devolved into just 4acodmt and a cup on my bookshelf was grunting these disgusting gutteral noises at me and attacking me psychically.

I thought it was godly combined with 2C-I and injected. Given the deeply uncomfortable overstimulation possibilities of either alone - let alone combined - this is probably an unwise combo… was kinda great though ngl

 

[4DQSAR]

I would start low and titrate up, you can add more but can't take it away, and you can always redose later on, or even better increase the dose the next time you take it another day, there's no rush getting it right.

This BLer hit the nail on the head!

You can ALWAYS take more, you cannot take LESS ,

Many years ago someone I knew orderd K and presumptive tests indicated it to be real. But they TASTED K and whatever they got did not taste right. So I was asked to get instumental analysis carried out (which at the time, we had a fellow HR worker at UMIST so GC-MS/NMR data was free'.

Turned out to be meta (3) methoxy PCE

I mentioned it here on BL and got a LOT of people who had also got ripped off in the same manner. meta methoxy PCE is an order of magnitude more potent than K and even worse, tachyphylaxis occurs to the NMDA activity so quickly that by day two it's mostly a nasty stimulant, by day three it is just a nasty stimulant.

If rhat person hadn't been so cautious I have NO IDEA what 125mg would do. A few BLer PMed me each with a horror story about someone they knew compulsivly redosing for that dopamine rush until they became psychotic. Most mentioned that before 3-MeO PCE, the respective friend had compulsivly used cocaine.

 

[4DQSAR]

I thought it was godly combined with 2C-I and injected. Given the deeply uncomfortable overstimulation possibilities of either alone - let alone combined - this is probably an unwise combo… was kinda great though ngl

Yeah, I've never tasted 2C-B or 2C-C but at the time 2C-I was not legally controlled in the nation where I resided at the time. So we made some. Only tasted it once. I felt some sort of discomfort that put me of.

I've said it many times but if I could only use ONE psychedelic for the rest of my life, DMT would be it. We got real white powder stored under dry nitrogen. Of course, as soon as you opened the vial, it began to turn brown. But while I'm dreaming, let it all be stored in sealed single-dose units so it's always those lovely white crystals.

 

[Syntherize]

Yeah, I've never tasted 2C-B or 2C-C but at the time 2C-I was not legally controlled in the nation where I resided at the time. So we made some. Only tasted it once. I felt some sort of discomfort that put me of.

I've said it many times but if I could only use ONE psychedelic for the rest of my life, DMT would be it. We got real white powder stored under dry nitrogen. Of course, as soon as you opened the vial, it began to turn brown. But while I'm dreaming, let it all be stored in sealed single-dose units so it's always those lovely white crystals

Yeah, I've never tasted 2C-B or 2C-C but at the time 2C-I was not legally controlled in the nation where I resided at the time. So we made some. Only tasted it once. I felt some sort of discomfort that put me of.

I've said it many times but if I could only use ONE psychedelic for the rest of my life, DMT would be it. We got real white powder stored under dry nitrogen. Of course, as soon as you opened the vial, it began to turn brown. But while I'm dreaming, let it all be stored in sealed single-dose units so it's always those lovely white crystals.

Your DMT is turning brown as soon as you open the vial? Are you doing an STB or A/B tek to get your final product? My white crystals stay white for years when stored away from oxidizers, and I also enjoy growing fat, chunky crystals of this substance that add a level of character to its appearance.