Meth Hot railing: harm?

[Kellsee]

Sometimes I just cram the whole bubble in my vag then I’ll wiggle it just a little bit….and you know what happens next

 

[Kellsee]

I was just being silly. I don’t put glass in my vagina lol

 

[Chaurus]

I was just being silly. I don’t put glass in my vagina lol

I put my glass bulb not only into my upper big male-hole, but also in my lower big male-hole. Stem first. Should have cleaned out before.

It was NEP and Reddit. I was watching movies a straight black meth smoker from Las Vegas had made and posted on there.

It's interesting how sex and drugs can make you cross over from watching regular porn to just movies of folks (in my case men) just using drugs.

I also watch guys hotrailing and I wonder how it's done and what the damage is.

 

[streaM Freak]

I put my glass bulb not only into my upper big male-hole, but also in my lower big male-hole. Stem first. Should have cleaned out before.

It was NEP and Reddit. I was watching movies a straight black meth smoker from Las Vegas had made and posted on there.

It's interesting how sex and drugs can make you cross over from watching regular porn to just movies of folks (in my case men) just using drugs.

I also watch guys hotrailing and I wonder how it's done and what the damage is.

I've never hotrailed, only insufflation, but I know that it's difficult to control how hot you are heating up the line.

 

[Chaurus]

I've never hotrailed, only insufflation, but I know that it's difficult to control how hot you are heating up the line.

I'd like to try it anyway. But I need a seculed space for a few days.

Smoked from a bulb-pipe before. I hate it that I end up with an ever darkening bulb.

Haven't found the right for me smoke technique (yet). Most likely what happens is that I get high and become too careless with the torch.

Meth (and NEP) helped me unlock a sexual part in me that I don't usually access.

IV, however -without Androskat- is useless if we/I want to use my penis.

But smoking meth lets me usually keep my erection. I wonder if the same goes for hot railing.

 

[streaM Freak]

I'd like to try it anyway. But I need a seculed space for a few days.

Smoked from a bulb-pipe before. I hate it that I end up with an ever darkening bulb.

Haven't found the right for me smoke technique (yet). Most likely what happens is that I get high and become too careless with the torch.

Meth (and NEP) helped me unlock a sexual part in me that I don't usually access.

IV, however -without Androskat- is useless if we/I want to use my penis.

But smoking meth lets me usually keep my erection. I wonder if the same goes for hot railing.

Smoking can be a pretty slow process if you don't heat it correctly. The majority of the time I've smoked with people, the pipe barley gets cloudy. Its supposed to be filled entirely with white smoke and puffing out the top too if it's rolling well because basically the idea is to inhale slowly so that it fills up as much as possible, so at times one may not be breathing in hard enough and it puffs out the top because one is trying to inhale as slowly as possible until they are about to take it all in.

Hotrailing I think would be like slamming it.

But now that we talk about it, something else comes to mind - not only is it hard to control the temperature of the rail, but also hard to accurate dose a line. Like in a pipe and especially when shooting it (if you backload, I don't know your method) you see pretty intimately how much you're using.

Does that make sense?

 

[Chaurus]

But now that we talk about it, something else comes to mind - not only is it hard to control the temperature of the rail, but also hard to accurate dose a line. Like in a pipe and especially when shooting it (if you backload, I don't know your method) you see pretty intimately how much you're using.

Does that make sense?

Not sure if I get it. Why would it be harder to dose?

 

[streaM Freak]

Not sure if I get it. Why would it be harder to dose?

In my experience, putting a shard or powder in a pipe you get a good look at it. Same with doing a shot, or if you backload by pulling out the plunger and just putting the stuff in the back, then putting the plunger back on, and drawing up water when there is already meth in the syringe, you see every time exactly how much you're using.

When I've done lines, if I don't use a scale (which I've honestly never done) it's hard to measure by width and length because one small difference in length OR width can make the dose deceivingly large.

 

[N0ph0n0]

I'd like to try it anyway. But I need a seculed space for a few days.

Smoked from a bulb-pipe before. I hate it that I end up with an ever darkening bulb.

Haven't found the right for me smoke technique (yet). Most likely what happens is that I get high and become too careless with the torch.

Take aluminium foil, shape in into a straw using a lead pencil, cover up one end, crush up some crystal, put in the aluminium dropper you just made, heat up your bulb pipe, use the aluminium dropper to insert the crystal in your pipe and inhale, it will vaporize instantly and wont get burned (if you heat it up too much it might be yellow-ish but i never got it to turn black).

 

[N0ph0n0]

Take aluminium foil, shape in into a straw using a lead pencil, cover up one end, crush up some crystal, put in the aluminium dropper you just made, heat up your bulb pipe, use the aluminium dropper to insert the crystal in your pipe and inhale, it will vaporize instantly and wont get burned (if you heat it up too much it might be yellow-ish but i never got it to turn black).

 

[chippermonk]

Take aluminium foil, shape in into a straw using a lead pencil, cover up one end, crush up some crystal, put in the aluminium dropper you just made, heat up your bulb pipe, use the aluminium dropper to insert the crystal in your pipe and inhale, it will vaporize instantly and wont get burned (if you heat it up too much it might be yellow-ish but i never got it to turn black).

Seems like it might matter the quality of the foil in order to be sure that you don't vaporize the aluminum, too? I've read that needle exchange sites give out a heavier grade of foil because it's safer? May be good HR

 

[chippermonk]

When I've done lines, if I don't use a scale (which I've honestly never done) it's hard to measure by width and length because one small difference in length OR width can make the dose deceivingly large.

A couple years ago when I ordered some test kits from DanceSafe ( I'm sure others carry them, too) I got a tiny little spoon that is supposed to measure 5 mg when filled level. DanceSafe is all about HR so I believe them but of course it's not as accurate as a scale. Better than one's greedy addled eyes, I think, and very easy to carry with you. An easy way to have more consistency, just make sure it's packed level
Another brand, same idea but I trust DanceSafe more than Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Scoops-Combo-Pack-Milligrams/dp/B092MT471L

 

[streaM Freak]

A couple years ago when I ordered some test kits from DanceSafe ( I'm sure others carry them, too) I got a tiny little spoon that is supposed to measure 5 mg when filled level. Not as accurate as a scale, but better than one's greedy addled eyes, I think, and very easy to carry with you. An easy way to have more consistency, just make sure it's packed level

Yeah that's a really good idea.

And then of course, with every batch being different it's good to start small on a new batch to gauge how strong the 5mg is, and go from there.

 

[chippermonk]

Yeah that's a really good idea.

And then of course, with ever batch being different it's good to start small on a new batch to gauge how strong the 5mg is, and go from there.

By the way I amended my post a bit, there are other size spoons which can be bought. But yeah, 5 mg is a good safe starting point for assessing

 

[N0ph0n0]

Seems like it might matter the quality of the foil in order to be sure that you don't vaporize the aluminum, too? I've read that needle exchange sites give out a heavier grade of foil because it's safer? May be good HR

I guess, idk i never had the aluminium get vaporized since it's only in contact with the pipe for more than a second but yeah getting higher quality aluminium is probably a good idea.

 

[Chaurus]

Take aluminium foil, shape in into a straw using a lead pencil, cover up one end, crush up some crystal, put in the aluminium dropper you just made, heat up your bulb pipe, use the aluminium dropper to insert the crystal in your pipe and inhale, it will vaporize instantly and wont get burned (if you heat it up too much it might be yellow-ish but i never got it to turn black).

Thank you very much!

That sounds like a very good tip for smoking from a bulb. I will certainly try it out.

But the hot rail is also happening.

 

[streaM Freak]

Thing about smoking meth is that it just takes a lot of heat. If you ever did want to try the extremely difficult and tedious process of rolling an oil burner it's easiest with a lighter. I just tried writing out steps on how to do it but i can't really explain it very well. But if anyone is interested let me know and i can give it a shot.

 

[chippermonk]

I have to admit that I've never smoked meth though I have smoked crack some in the past. I know that with crack it hits really fast, so I always assumed it would be equally fast smoking meth. But I gather it doesn't or else nobody would bother with hot railing. It's all kind of odd to me. Hot railing is faster because it also involves insufflation? Is it also the case that insufflation ( which I have done with meth) is faster than smoking? Or what? What are the distinctions?
Just curious.

 

[streaM Freak]

I have to admit that I've never smoked meth though I have smoked crack some in the past. I know that with crack it hits really fast, so I always assumed it would be equally fast smoking meth. But I gather it doesn't or else nobody would bother with hot railing.

The vaporizing point for meth is about double that of crack. So it needs a lot more heat. And often when smoking too much product is put in the pipe, too. Which not only makes it even more difficult to heat but also makes it burn quicker. The idea is to create a very thin layer since that's the quickest way to heat it, by creating as much surface area as possible with as little product as possible, with even heat distribution. But, when i was tweaking, i wouldn't have the patience for that. Which is why i rarely smoked, especially if i was already spun. Very tedious and takes a very long time to learn.

Basically, you melt it, then let it dry while twisting the bowl left to right so that it drys all spread out in a very thin puddle. Then you slowly roll the bowl over a lighter an inch below the meth along the trail of the rolled meth puddle, so that all of it is heated evenly. Once it starts becoming liquid again, you roll the bowl a bit faster to make sure that the puddle is as thin as possible. The thinner and less amount of stuff in there the better, again because it just vaporizes quicker so you'll be able to smoke a bigger hit. It takes a long time, especially if you put a lot of meth in the pipe, so you want to inhale very very slowly, and only after it starts smoking, so that you keep it rolling for as long as possible and don't have to restart this process over and over.

The amount of time it takes to heat will vary by how much meth is in there so it's really something that takes a lot of trial and error.

It's all kind of odd to me. Hot railing is faster because it also involves insufflation? Is it also the case that insufflation ( which I have done with meth) is faster than smoking? Or what? What are the distinctions?
Just curious.

Smoking and hot railing essentially have the same onset. It's just that you can take a way bigger hit hot railing because it vaporizes so quickly.

Both are inhaling smoke. Insufflation isn't instant because it takes longer to be absorbed.

 

[chippermonk]

Very interesting. I guess I better say no if anyone offers me a hit on the pipe because that is way too complicated and I'll probably fuck it all up. Kind of like with sneezing when someone offers you a line of blow.
But I admit those big billowing clouds of snake look cool in pics I've seen. I'm sure people are really into the whole art of a good roll.