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Opioids MGM 15 Megathread

MGM-15 has easily become my favorite opioid. I thankfully don't build habits out of drugs, has anybody here gotten their hands on MGM-16 yet or played with MGM-15 in combinations? I've mixed MGM-15 with DOM, 2C-B, allylescaline, metocin, miprocin, psilacetin, memantine, MDMA, methamphetamine, bupropion, a variety of cannabinoids, a good handful of things so far and I can't seem to find any dark corners the way that oxycodone or tapentadol has in certain mixes.
 
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^okay you know your shit I may have to grab some.

How is for pain -- like seriously pain not addiction or euphoria --- and is it bad for the kidneys or toxic in general??

Got ppl in severe need of pain treatment livin on aspirin and tylenol. Not big fan of 7 oh -- didnt last long enough for said 'patients' im just gunna say.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
^okay you know your shit I may have to grab some.

How is for pain -- like seriously pain not addiction or euphoria --- and is it bad for the kidneys or toxic in general??

Got ppl in severe need of pain treatment livin on aspirin and tylenol. Not big fan of 7 oh -- didnt last long enough for said 'patients' im just gunna say.
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I have no idea if it's toxic, it's way too new. This lasts about 3 times as long as 7-OH and works well for pain for me, but I find all opioids inferior to gabapentin personally.
 
Right on -- excellent point about toxicity (Sometimes ppl have theories already; just makin sure that is not known or the case)

Works well for pain for you --- I am guessing 7 oh worked okay for pain with you (If not lmk)

Alright just kinda gathering opinions from ppl that arent shills at this point

--- I should just do the 7 oh I have so I have a bit of first hand knowledge but I only got 250 mgs and im on 1-2mg of sub a day. (Waste not want not etc)
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Works well for pain for you --- I am guessing 7 oh worked okay for pain with you (If not lmk)
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Yeah mitragynine/7-OH/MGM-15 as well as tianeptine are far superior to opiates for me, I'm unsure why non-traditional opioids seem to work so well. Tapentadol and tramadol are useless for pain though.
 
Esperighanto said:
MGM-15 has easily become my favorite opioid. I thankfully don't built habits out of drugs, has anybody here gotten their hands on MGM-16 yet or played with MGM-15 in combinations? I've mixed MGM-15 with DOM, 2C-B, allylescaline, metocin, miprocin, psilacetin, memantine, MDMA, methamphetamine, bupropion, a variety of cannabinoids, a good handful of things so far and I can't seem to find any dark corners the way that oxycodone or tapentadol has in certain mixes.
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Mixing mgm16 with anything would be incredibly retarded to put it bluntly.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
Which others have you tried?
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Oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, heroin, 6-MAM, AH-7921, U-47700, I had a fentanyl IV when I was a terminally ill teenager, codeine, morphine, poppy tea, methadone, kratom/kratom extracts, purified mitragynine, 7-OH-Mitragynine, pseudoindoxyl mitragynine, MGM-15, tramadol, and tapentadol are the ones I can think of right now. MGM-15 feels like the cleanest, most stimulating one and it has crazy legs on it.
Kurt Cobain said:
Mixing mgm16 with anything would be incredibly retarded to put it bluntly.
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I've yet to even hear of MGM-16 being available to anybody, has it made the rounds yet?
 
Esperighanto said:
MGM-15 feels like the cleanest, most stimulating one and it has crazy legs on it.
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Hmm. I guess the noddy-brain-foggy-waking-dream state of some of the classics is more my speed. Don't get to take them often since the government ended opioids essentially.


Long legs? Does it keep you awake at night if it is so stimulating?
 
Esperighanto said:
Oxycodone, oxymorphone, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, heroin, 6-MAM, AH-7921, U-47700, I had a fentanyl IV when I was a terminally ill teenager, codeine, morphine, poppy tea, methadone, kratom/kratom extracts, purified mitragynine, 7-OH-Mitragynine, pseudoindoxyl mitragynine, MGM-15, tramadol, and tapentadol are the ones I can think of right now. MGM-15 feels like the cleanest, most stimulating one and it has crazy legs on it.

I've yet to even hear of MGM-16 being available to anybody, has it made the rounds yet
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It was when it first came out for a bit but went dark pretty quick on the mainstream end, doesn't pop up much thru the back door that I've seen either, not reliably and trustedly so that is. Mgm wears off pretty fast for me tbh I was really hoping for more but my 7 tolerance is disgusting rn so that's probably more my fault that I trained dmy body to metabolize a shit ton of these drugs in a short time period
 
Cream Gravy? said:
Hmm. I guess the noddy-brain-foggy-waking-dream state of some of the classics is more my speed. Don't get to take them often since the government ended opioids essentially.


Long legs? Does it keep you awake at night if it is so stimulating?
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Do you know of any other ROAs for 7oh and mgm? Using pure powders that is?
 
Kurt Cobain said:
Do you know of any other ROAs for 7oh and mgm? Using pure powders that is?
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A couple hours ago I burnt a 7-OH infused joint, it was delightful. I'll be making some MGM-15 vape juice too within the next week or so.
Cream Gravy? said:
Hmm. I guess the noddy-brain-foggy-waking-dream state of some of the classics is more my speed. Don't get to take them often since the government ended opioids essentially.


Long legs? Does it keep you awake at night if it is so stimulating?
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I mean, I'm a bad guy to ask about this, I'll sleep through meth and acid and all sorts of shit notorious for interrupting sleep. DOB, 5-MeO-DiPT, NEP, and bupropion can keep me up, but pretty much nothing else for some reason.
 
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theslackernews said:
Have you considered creating a vape juice recipe book? I'd buy it!
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A cookbook that's just "dissolve things in PG" wouldn't be very impressive I imagine haha. I have a tank filled with a mixture of etizolam and phenazolam right now that's truly humbling, even compared to the 25B-NBOMe and 25E-NBOH tanks.
 
The dissolve part I can do where I have trouble is the solubility, how much PG vs VG to use, and whether I end up with something that a given rig will vaporize the active substance without burning it. But the trial and error is probably half the fun :p. Back on topic have some MGM-15 coming but it's solution.
 
theslackernews said:
The dissolve part I can do where I have trouble is the solubility, how much PG vs VG to use, and whether I end up with something that a given rig will vaporize the active substance without burning it. But the trial and error is probably half the fun :p. Back on topic have some MGM-15 coming but it's solution.
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As much as dropping lab notes that pertain to how to best vaporize 7-OH-mitragynine or phenazolam or etizolam would be consistent with the spirit I often act in, the idea that information deserves to be free, I cannot possibly perspectivize it as harm reduction. If you're of sound enough mind to calculate taking a risk like that, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out the approach either way.

My dumb ass did foolishly consume Lophophora (fricii/diffusa/koehresii) with residual amphetamine metabolites in my blood and Icarus-like, flew too close to the monoaminergic sun. This induced the classic "ruh roh" combo of crazy high BP and pulse while intermittently passing out. In this moment, vaporized etizolam/phenazolam was very likely a valuable tool, but I still imagine that the ratio of people who would develop a problematic relationship to vaped benzos versus the amount of people who would need them in a pinch due to extremely obscure drug combinations would not skew in such a way to where I should post a guide about vaping benzos.

It has been ~8 hours since I consumed the Lophophora and while the BP/pulse is stable now, I just keep tripping harder as the hours go by, sorry for the run-ons.
 
Esperighanto said:
A couple hours ago I burnt a 7-OH infused joint, it was delightful. I'll be making some MGM-15 vape juice too within the next week or so.

I mean, I'm a bad guy to ask about this, I'll sleep through meth and acid and all sorts of shit notorious for interrupting sleep. DOB, 5-MeO-DiPT, NEP, and bupropion can keep me up, but pretty much nothing else for some reason.
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Dude like the last 10 times I was coming up on mushrooms I nodded off -- sometimes to wake tripping sometimes to sleep all the way through?

The hell did I do that to myself?? (Rhetorical I spose) and applies SLIGHLTLY to all psychedelics but shrooms I actually seem to nod

Normally I am hard pressed for sleep too

ps.
(Unless you are doing the vape thing I thing alcohol has proven safer for ingestion long term)

Also if I ever have a plethora again you gettin a PM about makin a vape lol
 
Esperighanto said:
As much as dropping lab notes that pertain to how to best vaporize 7-OH-mitragynine or phenazolam or etizolam would be consistent with the spirit I often act in, the idea that information deserves to be free, I cannot possibly perspectivize it as harm reduction. If you're of sound enough mind to calculate taking a risk like that, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out the approach either way.

My dumb ass did foolishly consume Lophophora (fricii/diffusa/koehresii) with residual amphetamine metabolites in my blood and Icarus-like, flew too close to the monoaminergic sun. This induced the classic "ruh roh" combo of crazy high BP and pulse while intermittently passing out. In this moment, vaporized etizolam/phenazolam was very likely a valuable tool, but I still imagine that the ratio of people who would develop a problematic relationship to vaped benzos versus the amount of people who would need them in a pinch due to extremely obscure drug combinations would not skew in such a way to where I should post a guide about vaping benzos.

It has been ~8 hours since I consumed the Lophophora and while the BP/pulse is stable now, I just keep tripping harder as the hours go by, sorry for the run-ons.
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Fair and respect that. I made an order of magnitude error in dosing a stim (no ER obviously alive still but do not recommend) once years ago and for the same reason probably wouldn't provide step tutorials. Can mess about some and worst case is something tastes like drek but the failed juice (zero nic obviously if using a premade flavor) would still work orally.
 
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