Miscellaneous Alarming Bufo documentary

[scabbard]

Mods please feel free to relocate this to a different forum if there's a better place for it.

I wanted to share this with everyone, it's a bufo documentary about a guy who goes down to Mexico to try the toad.



Personally I think it was pretty well done, it wasn't the typical "Oh yea everything's bliss." It was unbiased in showing the good and the bad, and the host seems equanimous and grounded, objectively laying out all the possible outcomes that might arise when taking this medicine.

At 30:58, he returns to the man who served him the medicine for a post-session integration. If you watch the next minute or so, it is absolutely appalling what the guy says about sexual abuse during the ceremonies, insinuating that people who are abused during a ceremony essentially created that scenario for themselves. I don't give a shit what type of skirt you wear to a bufo ceremony, or whether or not you have any clothes on at all! That's not an open invitation to rape someone, which is exactly what the "medicine man" is implying by the comments he made. Absolutely abhorrent. I am shocked and dismayed to learn that this type of shit actually goes on.

It was so sad to see this since there is so much healing potential for these medicines, but the commercialization of the practice of serving medicine gives rise to this kind of despicable behavior.

Watching this got me really charged up and I'm sharing it here so that others can be on guard and hopefully make better informed decisions about who to choose for their guides. I don't want to scare anyone away from going on a retreat to experience a psychedelic medicine but I do want people to be informed about the darker side of what can go on.

 

[Viraldrome]

I wish you all would stop calling it "medicine". I live in Canada, its not banned here yet but health canada (our version of FDA) has the mandate to regulate anything people use medicinally, and they are documenting these posts. I use it before i jerk off because it makes porn better, its going to suck if i cant get it anymore because of this silly hippy shit. Why cant stuff just be under the radar? Why does every fucking drug experience need a vice doc? Their heating out of cool scenes shut down the main source of grey market lysergamides.

The afterglow from drugs being called an antidepressant is going to almost certainly lead to disappointment because it is always the same with everything (LSD, Ket, mushrooms, this stuff), its very difficult, even impossible, to recreate that afterglow effect repeatedly. Yeah the first time its very novel but the next few times that novelty will go away, and you are going to be left in your own depressed head. I don't ever see anyone say they took something once and it cured them forever, you will have to do it again, good luck with that. There are some temporary benefits, and maybe it helps some people, but everyone is way over selling it.

Also, using an endangered toad instead of synthetic is stupid. You don't know how much you are taking. That first guy says 90-100 mg of venom, that is like around 15 mg of 5-meo-dmt, that's too much. Even on 10 mg i fear i might stop breathing, and thats in my house, an island in mexico is not a safe place to consume something that is dangerous, and bufotenine is dangerous. This isn't any different than any other drug and basic HR says you should try a tiny dose the first time, taking 15 mg of 5 meo-dmt your first time is insane. You can do it more than once in a night too, so why would you not start super low and titrate up? Because they are in it for the money, get you in and get you out. The 2nd guy said he administered half that, 50 mg of venom. That's a massive difference. Why are people leaving a decision as important as dosage to some clown in an open Hawaiian shit? You should do your own research and determine the dose yourself. I've done it hundreds of times and would never take 15 mg of 5-meo-dmt. Ever.

None of the hocus pocus in the video is legit religious rites either. There is no Bufo religion lineage here, its made up for the rich gringo tourists. 3000 dollars he paid, 200 dollars worth of 5-meo-dmt lasts me like 3 years. Give your friend 30 bucks to tripsit you, it be the same thing. And you won't get raped.

I can't stop myself from commenting on these posts, sorry

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Is this the same short movie where the guy smokes 5-meo-dmt in a river and flops around like a fish? My friend saw it on TV years ago and kept pestering me about getting some "toad" because he wanted to experience being that fucked up. I tried to explain to him several times that it was a bad idea and probably not for him. But he wouldn't heed any warnings I ever gave him. I never gave him any 5-meo-dmt or DMT because I knew it'd just be a waste and he'd do something retarded like attempting to smoke 200mg of the stuff all at once.

I considered it at one point. I stupidly brought over some 25e I was stupidly taking at the time because someone in the local area traded me a pre-prepped nasal spray bottle of the stuff. I gave this guy a dose. A couple of hours later I came out of the bathroom and he was watching a nature documentary about snakes on this massive TV. There was a huge up close shot of a green mamba and he was zoned out on it. I asked him "wtf is wrong with you? Turn that shit off" (I hate snakes).

He pestered me for a re-dose. I stupidly handed him the bottle and told him not to take more than one squirt. This is after I'd already warned him multiple times that the 25x chemicals were known to have killed multiple people through ODing. I think he sprayed that bottle 5 or 6 times before I wrestled it away from him. He said he could handle it because he could handle all drugs (guy would take handfuls of opioids and benzos).

He couldn't handle it....I ended up babysitting his ass all night. I'm happy he didn't die.

Guy always went too far. I wasted some good MDA on him one time a few years after that. He randomly showed up with his girlfriend while I was in a strong afterglow off MDMA/MDA. I had two pre-capped doses that were very strong (200-250mg IIRC) which I was saving. But he was obviously in opioid withdrawal bad and pestering me to see if I could find him any pills. I didn't want to bother with it as I'd told him I was quitting multiple times and had recently kicked methadone cold turkey. I stupidly gave him both capsules and told him to give one to his girlfriend and go back home. Have a good time.

Idiot went out to his car and swallowed both of them. Then came back inside and tried to hide it from me. Got all sappy and emotional when I told him I was leaving because I had plans. Massive waste of MDA. Should have known better.

I feel like people like I'm describing above are the ones that get taken in by these con artists the most.

I don't understand why people try to form these cults of personality and new age religions around certain substances. I kind of understand why people did it with DPT. But frankly most of them are just using it as an excuse to get high every week and as a lame attempt to skirt the law. Suddenly, every white guy is part 1/32nd some type of indian and they're trying to pretend they're going on vision quests together. I've got enough injun blood coursing through my veins that I qualify for free money from the federal government and I don't go around doing that stupid shit. I just like to get high.

 

[Ismene2]

I've never understood the reasoning behind "going to the jungle" to take psychedelics with strangers. What do they have to do with it? And they're usually trying to layer their own beliefs on top of the psychedelic too - like all the silly santo daime catholic shit. What can some silly fucker with a bone through his nose tell me about my own mind?

The whole beauty of psychedelics is that they have absolutely fuck all to do with any other human being but yourself. That's why I like them and I detest religion - I don't want to hear some strangers opinion about my own psychedelic experience. If I want to laugh my bollocks off and dance then I do it - I don't need to pay a stranger to tell me what to do.

And any bastard tormenting a toad instead of buying 5-meo-dmt deserves bullfucking. With a steel dildo.

 

[scabbard]

I wish you all would stop calling it "medicine". I live in Canada, its not banned here yet but health canada (our version of FDA) has the mandate to regulate anything people use medicinally, and they are documenting these posts. I use it before i jerk off because it makes porn better, its going to suck if i cant get it anymore because of this silly hippy shit. Why cant stuff just be under the radar? Why does every fucking drug experience need a vice doc? Their heating out of cool scenes shut down the main source of grey market lysergamides.

The afterglow from drugs being called an antidepressant is going to almost certainly lead to disappointment because it is always the same with everything (LSD, Ket, mushrooms, this stuff), its very difficult, even impossible, to recreate that afterglow effect repeatedly. Yeah the first time its very novel but the next few times that novelty will go away, and you are going to be left in your own depressed head. I don't ever see anyone say they took something once and it cured them forever, you will have to do it again, good luck with that. There are some temporary benefits, and maybe it helps some people, but everyone is way over selling it.

Also, using an endangered toad instead of synthetic is stupid. You don't know how much you are taking. That first guy says 90-100 mg of venom, that is like around 15 mg of 5-meo-dmt, that's too much. Even on 10 mg i fear i might stop breathing, and thats in my house, an island in mexico is not a safe place to consume something that is dangerous, and bufotenine is dangerous. This isn't any different than any other drug and basic HR says you should try a tiny dose the first time, taking 15 mg of 5 meo-dmt your first time is insane. You can do it more than once in a night too, so why would you not start super low and titrate up? Because they are in it for the money, get you in and get you out. The 2nd guy said he administered half that, 50 mg of venom. That's a massive difference. Why are people leaving a decision as important as dosage to some clown in an open Hawaiian shit? You should do your own research and determine the dose yourself. I've done it hundreds of times and would never take 15 mg of 5-meo-dmt. Ever.

None of the hocus pocus in the video is legit religious rites either. There is no Bufo religion lineage here, its made up for the rich gringo tourists. 3000 dollars he paid, 200 dollars worth of 5-meo-dmt lasts me like 3 years. Give your friend 30 bucks to tripsit you, it be the same thing. And you won't get raped.

I can't stop myself from commenting on these posts, sorry

It depends on how the medicine is used. If you're using it to have a pleasant experience where you feel oneness and joy, and the next day you're still on a bit of a high because of the ecstasy of that experience then yes, those effects won't last. However, I think it's quite foolish to say that you're just going to be left in your depressed head after that experience. If it's used to release deep-seated trauma from the body then it's akin to nervous system surgery and then the effects can be lasting, and it's not just a palliative experience. I personally feel that when it comes to healing from trauma, psychedelics are such a great tool because they're not a palliative treatment, unlike so many of the medicines that are currently used in the west. They actually allow you to connect with repressed emotions and unconscious processes and through that process the brain can rewire itself in a healthy way that's lasting, as opposed to taking a pill everyday to treat the effects of an unresolved/misunderstood experience in the unconscious.

Dosing on 5MeO is tricky, more so than other psychedelics, because the experience you will have on that molecule if your ego remains present can be completely different compared to the experience you could have if you get past that point and your ego dissolves, and the amount required to achieve that for any given person on any given day varies, so no one, including the guide, can really know what's going to happen or how much you should take. Only an individual could know that if they have a lot of past experience with the medicine, and even then they still don't know what they're going to get.

I also wouldn't say that there's anything inherently dangerous about dosing on an island in Mexico. I think it was absolutely absurd that they let that guy float in the water, unless he only took a really small dose, but aside from that it seems like a perfectly safe option for taking the medicine assuming you're with trustworthy people who know what they're doing.

 

[pupnik]

Electro-convulsive therapy is equivalent to 5-meo-dmt ego loss, and may be a tad less unpleasant.
but getting twisted on vaped 5-meo-dmt with a tiny dose of only 2mg might be considered interesting.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Is electro-convulsive therapy still used @pupnik? Personally I would turn to 5-meo-dmt a long time before electro convulsive therapy but maybe I need to open my mind

(I have found 5-MeO-DMT to be very useful insufflated from ~8mg to 20mg - the only time I found it non worthwhile was when I took 5mg and went for a run in a very ugly industrial area, terrible combo)

 

[pupnik]

I only have the 5meo-dmt vape, and small tokes of it (1 second pulls) hit very hard, and are not at all visually fascinating, so, not wanting to be so hard hit, usually, I put it at the bottom of my stash. Possibly insufflated it is absorbed more slowly and has some rewarding features.


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[scabbard]

I've never understood the reasoning behind "going to the jungle" to take psychedelics with strangers. What do they have to do with it? And they're usually trying to layer their own beliefs on top of the psychedelic too - like all the silly santo daime catholic shit. What can some silly fucker with a bone through his nose tell me about my own mind?

The whole beauty of psychedelics is that they have absolutely fuck all to do with any other human being but yourself. That's why I like them and I detest religion - I don't want to hear some strangers opinion about my own psychedelic experience. If I want to laugh my bollocks off and dance then I do it - I don't need to pay a stranger to tell me what to do.

And any bastard tormenting a toad instead of buying 5-meo-dmt deserves bullfucking. With a steel dildo.

I agree with you on this. No need to travel to another part of the world just to put a molecule in your body, and then have the experience layered with a bunch of dogma on top of it.

 

[red22]

I use it before i jerk off because it makes porn better,

Does it work better than DMT?

Here’s a subject that I’ve never seen discussed before: using psychedelics to enhance masturbatory self-pleasure. When I’ve tripped alone masturbation always played a vital role. It releases deeply clogged kundalini energies and can be enormously pleasurable. It also enhances the power of my imagination and helps me to balance the intense psychedelic energies, which can sometimes become too agitating. I’m aware that a number of other people have discovered this as well.

Pornography comes to life on LSD—fully three-dimensional, animated, almost personally intimate, and one’s heightened fantasies blend seamlessly with reality.

David Jay Brown. The New Science of Psychedelics. 2013. Chapter 7. Exploring the Synergistic World of Sex on Drugs § PSYCHEDELICS AND MASTURBATION


orgasm by will alone.... No touchy style.
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i've done it.


i discovered this ability while on ayahuasca.


it's like hacking your brain.


i found out how to conscniously stimulate different regions of the brain, including the orgasm center. and alot of the pain centers, which was interesting. like causing yourself to feel like you just rolled in a pile of glass. there are so many regions of the brain that can be toyed with like this.


this includes stimulating mussels and forcing your body to go through a work out while laying down.





it takes the most intense concentration imagnable. you have to be able to manipulae your brain's signals.




but to cum by sheer will, it's like a wet dream with out being asleep.
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Saloman, 2012-11-25, #17281144