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Did you always know you would be a jakey fucker?

Ismene2

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I got into drugs very late - I was 30 before I even touched the fucking things. But I took to it like a duck to water! My dad died and nothing else helped but psychedelics. Never felt such euphoria and never laughed as hard as when I take psychedelics.

What first piqued your interest in drugs and did you start taking them straightaway?

And now you only stop taking drugs twice a day in order to urinate?
 
What first piqued your interest in drugs and did you start taking them straightaway?

And now you only stop taking drugs twice a day in order to urinate?
Interest piqued after reading about the Beatles using lsd and hearing me Dad talk about thinking the nurses were firemen due to drugs after surgery. I didn't start taking them straightaway because, errrrr, I was 8 or 9

Don't be stupid man, I stop consuming to urinate 3 or 4 times a day
 
Interest piqued after reading about the Beatles using lsd and hearing me Dad talk about thinking the nurses were firemen due to drugs after surgery. I didn't start taking them straightaway because, errrrr, I was 8 or 9

Don't be stupid man, I stop consuming to urinate 3 or 4 times a day

Pretty much the same for me. My older brother was a massive beatles fan so I was aware of all the trippy shit and pot smoking.

Then later on I watched a drama documentary about operation Julie and thought that all looked pretty cool.

Kind of made a concerted effort to seek it out - rather too successfully I might add...
 
Then later on I watched a drama documentary about operation Julie and thought that all looked pretty cool.
Probably a bit later on but I remember when an Op.J docu was on telly and our flat for raided

My mate stuck cocaine in my brain on the stereo just as they broke the door down and they found a note in his pocket saying something like "remember to record Op.J!". They were like "hmmmmm" and he was like "yeah I don't take drugs officer"

They found nothing, but they weren't actually looking for drugs. We were expecting them. It was 1985/86 iirc so quite a while back. It was a calamity of errors to put it mildly. Something to do with a high-carat diamond on a white gold ring being slung down a drain after someone said it was definitely fake, worthless. It was not. It was worth a LOT aaaaagggghh. Fucking idiot reckoned he was a jeweller too, ahem. It was literally nothing to do with me (truth) I was just wrong place wrong time. They drained a sewer looking for it too, to no avail

Moral of the story is, don't leave your fucking purse with valuables and credit cards in it in a phonebox. That'll teach her!
 
What really piqued my interest as a nipper were those “heroin really screws you up” PSAs in the 80s. I had a pretty seriously fukked up childhood and what they showed honestly looked ideal to me.

FFWD a few years and I started college at 15 and first encountered people skinning up. I was fascinated but had no clue what they were doing. The pieces finally got put in place and I eventually took a couple tokes on a roach end.

Things escalated rapidly from there.

I read everything I could lay hands on in regards “druggy” literature of any kind.

Speed, opium, crack, LSD and heroin had also all been ticked off the list before I hit sixteen. It kinda escalated yet again from there…

To be fair, I also used to swig from my Father’s spirits collection on the reg - and swiped several miniatures a day from his miniatures collection to drink and share - during my primary school years, so I suspect I was already well primed for debauchery and degradation from the years of familial abuse tbh.
 
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Did you go straight to slamming H? No hesitation?
Smoking for years on and off. Then straight to slamming it for a short period before I was filling needle bins and knew I needed to stop.

Back to smoking a few years later. Then back to slamming and going over twice. Lucky to survive, but they had to rip my prize Czech sniper jacket. Bastards.

The guy I was scoring with thought I was dead, and was amazed to see me coming through the door. I immediately claimed that he hadn't put enough crack in the shot. Yeah.

Still think about it every day.
 
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I came across Cannabis Culture very young (13) and I immediately knew it was what I wanted to partake in.

It coincided with having my life’s existential crisis, and that I better lap up as much fun as I could as I thought Nihilism was the truth of the world - NothingMatters so let’s get high.

Very quickly was then playing with MDMA, then Pharma Opioids and Benzos, the drug scene growing up where I did was absolutely devastating, I’m surprised no one I knew died.

Into my late teens it was Ketamine and then just Alcohol as it was a socially acceptable way to kill myself, and turning 18 meant I had constant access.

I got clean from 21-24 then I got bored, but Cannabis isn’t the same for me anymore, so I got a diagnosis for ADHD for Daily Methylphenidate and occasionally Codeine is my poison for recreation..
 
I got into drugs very late - I was 30 before I even touched the fucking things. But I took to it like a duck to water! My dad died and nothing else helped but psychedelics. Never felt such euphoria and never laughed as hard as when I take psychedelics.

What first piqued your interest in drugs and did you start taking them straightaway?

And now you only stop taking drugs twice a day in order to urinate?
Began smoking Hash at 11, I only began because the guys I was chilling with were into robbing cars & bad stuff, they were into sniffing Glue & Solvents before I began hanging with them. I only smoked Hash (Sticky Black) due to being told what it was like & I had decades of weird events when going to bed (100% the same as written about in the book PIHKAL) so I was RIPE to test the limits of what is Real.

I loved smoking Hash, I began working my way through all the drugs I could get my hands on, by 20 I had done all the usual street drugs & had started getting into RC's. The first RC I truly fell in love with & hit way too hard was 2C-B.



Excerpt from “Spiral”

When I finally gave it a name, I called it the Spiral.

This is how it was. Lying down for nap time (as a child) or at night for sleep, I would have reached that point of relaxation where one is not very much aware of the body. The small itches and discomforts have subsided, and the mind is beginning to drift. When I sensed it beginning (I never knew when it was going to come), I would immediately snap into alertness, excited and pleased, then I would just lie quietly as it unfolded.

The first thing that happened was a change in my breathing. It became increasingly shallow, to the point where my rib cage was barely moving at all.

If someone came into the room and talked to me, as sometimes happened, I could open my eyes and answer normally; the experience continued uninterrupted inside my head.

Every part of it, every stage, was the same each time. It was always in black and white. There was no color anywhere, and try as I did, especially around the age of fourteen, I could not force color to come onto the screen. And I could never extend it, by so much as a few seconds. When it was finished, it was finished.

First came the image-sensation after which I named the entire experience—the spiral. I felt my entire self drawn rapidly into a tiny point which kept shrinking, until it could shrink no further, at which time the microscopic point became a tunnel in which I continued traveling at great speed, inexpressibly small and implacably diminishing.

Simultaneously, I was expanding. I was expanding to the edges of the universe, at the same tremendous speed as that of the shrinking, and the combination, the contraction-expansion, was not only an image, it was also a sensation the whole of me recognized and welcomed. This experience of myself as microcosm-macrocosm lasted exactly four minutes.

The image of the spiral is found everywhere that the human has left his mark on earth. It has been cut into rock faces, painted on huts and clay pots, traced on the walls of initiation caves. I’m certain that it has been important to all the races of man because it is a symbol for the experience I’m describing, and for the concept, the understanding that the intellect forms out of what is initially not an intellectual, but a soul experience of the Alpha and Omega.

The next stage came abruptly, as did all the changes. I was looking at standing figures which were vaguely human, dark thin figures being pulled into elongated shapes, like the sculptures of Giacometti. They stretched out, arms and legs like black string, until it seemed they could elongate no further, then the scene changed and I was watching obscenely rounded bodies, Tweedledums and Tweedledees without costumes, their small heads and legs disappearing into their puffed, bloated flesh.

The sensation accompanying this stage was one of discomfort, unpleasantness, a feeling of something grating on my soul. I once timed this part and the one that followed; they lasted a total of six minutes. I disliked them intensely.

Abruptly again, the inner screen became white, a horrible dead-white, nasty and aggressive like the underbelly of a sting-ray. After presenting itself for a few seconds, the flat white began to curdle from the outer edges into black, until finally the screen was totally black. A thick, awful, dead black, a pool of tar in an unlit cave deep underground. After another brief pause, the black began to curdle at its edges into the white again. This process repeated itself once, and the sensation was similar in every way to the previous one: irritating, grating, a feeling of unpleasantness that approached repugnance. I always endured it with a mental gritting of teeth, knowing it had to be gone through because that’s the way it always went and it was not to be changed.

And then, finally, I broke out into the last stage, the final part for which I had always been and always would be willing to undergo the middle parts.

Now I was at the edge of an unseen cliff, looking out into a very different blackness, the deep, cradling blackness of the infinite universe, of space which stretched without end. I was completely happy and comfortable in that place, and would have stayed there indefinitely, had I been allowed, breathing in the beautiful darkness and the exquisitely familiar sense of infinity as a living presence, surrounding me, intimate and warm.

After a moment of this pleasure, came the greeting. From the upper left-hand corner of the universe there came a greeting from Something which had known me, and which I had known, since before time and space began. There were no words, but the message was clear and smiling: Hello, dear friend, I salute you with respect-humor-love. It is a pleasurewith-laughter-joy to encounter you again.

That which greeted me was an entity so far removed from anything in human experience that I concluded, when I was an adult, trying to find a way to describe it to myself, that even the word, “entity,” could not be applied; a word creates boundaries, it says this is the shape of what you are describing, as different from other shapes which are bounded by other words. It had no shape, no form, no definition, no boundaries. It was. It is. It was my oldest friend and it greeted me as its equal. I always replied to it with a rush of love and delight and my own laughter.

Then it was over.

It had taken exactly twelve minutes.

It was something I’d always experienced, taken for granted, and had given no thought to when I was very young. Not until age fourteen did I take a good look at it and recognize it as unusual, something peculiarly my own, my secret private treasure. I also got very analytical about the whole thing, began my habit of timing it and made the first of my unsuccessful efforts at altering it. But I didn’t decide on a name for it until many years later, discarding “Microcosm-macrocosm,” as too long and unwieldy, and settling on the simpler “Spiral.”

It had probably been going on since I was born. There’s no way to be sure, of course, but because it had been part of my life ever since I could remember, I tend to assume it was familiar to me from the very beginning. My mother said something once about having seen a change of some kind coming over me occasionally when I was a baby; she said she didn’t worry about it because when it passed, I appeared to be quite normal.

It always (with one single exception) came under the same circumstances, when I had settled down in bed for a nap or for the night’s sleep, but well before sleep itself took over.

The one exception happened when I was around fifteen, shortly after my father had been transferred to Santiago de Cuba as American Consul. We were staying in a hotel, while those responsible for helping us find a home were still busy with their search. My father and mother, my brother Boy and I were having lunch in the hotel dining room and my eyes focused on the butter plate on the table. In the exact center of the round plate was a single pat of butter, and somehow the sight triggered the familiar feeling I associated with the beginning of the Spiral. I was surprised and very pleased, because it was a new thing to have it start under such unusual circumstances.

I was also pleased because it was my special thing, and in asking to be excused from the table to go up to my room, I felt a certain sense of importance, which was rare when I was with my family. I said just enough to make it clear that my strange “thing” was beginning, and my parents grudgingly gave permission for me to leave. I reached the room upstairs in time for the completion, the wonderful last few moments. It turned out to be the only time it ever happened that way—when I was out of my bed, involved with ordinary matters of daily living.

I tried to make it come, searching out all sorts of images of round space with dots in the center, but nothing worked. I never found a way to make it happen. It came when it chose to, unexpectedly, once in a while. The times it chose had no apparent connection to anything else that was going on in my life, either generally or in particular. In twenty-five years, believe me, I looked for every possible connection; I found none. When I was very little, I think it might have happened as often as once a week or so, but as I grew older it came less and less often, until around age twenty-five, when it happened only twice in one year, then never again.

 
No way. I HATED drugs.
Even [back when I used it] I was pretty open on facebook about being an alcoholic [didn't mention drugs] back in my early 20s and got a lot of messages from people I went to high school with saying I was the last person they would have expected.
 
"Jakey" (often spelled jaikey or jake) is primarily a Scottish slang term, usually derogatory, used to describe a homeless person, a tramp, or someone who is a habitual alcoholic.
 
"Jakey" (often spelled jaikey or jake) is primarily a Scottish slang term, usually derogatory, used to describe a homeless person, a tramp, or someone who is a habitual alcoholic.

Jakey and Junky are used pretty interchangeably around here. Both kinda mean scummy and usually alcoholic. Odd how junky is often used more to mean habitual drinker than specifically heroin user :?
 
Jakey and Junky are used pretty interchangeably around here. Both kinda mean scummy and usually alcoholic. Odd how junky is often used more to mean habitual drinker than specifically heroin user :?

Alcohol? I've heard "junky" used [derogatory] as synonymous with "drug addict" regardless of the drug, but never alcohol :/
I low-key kinda hate "Junky" [the word, not the book, that was excellent]...as while I am obviously not saying it is on the same level as the N-word [or close to it], I feel like it's used in the same way, like a slur used with the intention of dehumanizing a marginalized sub-set. Like "These aren't really people, like us, they're just [slur]'s"

^Sorry if that comes across too "woke" lmao
 
Alcohol? I've heard "junky" used [derogatory] as synonymous with "drug addict" regardless of the drug, but never alcohol :/
I low-key kinda hate "Junky" [the word, not the book, that was excellent]...as while I am obviously not saying it is on the same level as the N-word [or close to it], I feel like it's used in the same way, like a slur used with the intention of dehumanizing a marginalized sub-set. Like "These aren't really people, like us, they're just [slur]'s"

^Sorry if that comes across too "woke" lmao

I should specify it’s a Scottish thing. Never heard alcoholics being called junkies in any other part of the UK - or anywhere tbh!
 
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