RCs 2-Methoxyqualone "Quaaludes"

[Bleaney]

Has anyone tried sublingual dosing of the 330mg pills that hit the market recently?

It seems that they are being mis-advertised as Quaaludes by every vendor selling them, even though technically they aren't. But this is resulting in reports of people trying to smoke them etc, and it is not working, and I dread to think of what it's doing to their poor lungs.

I gather that this substance is more closely related to Etaqualone than actual Quaaludes, from what I understand of the Wikipedia article, and in my experience, sublingual dosing of Etaqualone was way more effective. Smaller doses had much greater effects. The bio-availaibilty must have been a lot higher. So it was a lot more bang for your buck.

So given that they are related, I imagine that the same might apply to these new pills. But of course you've got to be a bit careful with downers, and I was wondering if anyone else has tried sublingual, and what dose they used, and if it worked?

My order has finally arrived and I only have 3 pills. So I dont want to waste any. Oral dosing does seem a safe bet from reports found elsewhere online, and the reports have been generally favourable.. I'll possibly try an oral dose first, and then maybe try half a pill sublingually later, or on another occasion, and then wait a couple of hours to gauge the effects, and then take the other half if necessary. The duration is said to be long. Eight hours or so.

Just wondering if anyone else has tried these, and what their impressions were, and specifically if anyone agrees with me re sublingual dosing, or if they have tried it. I absolutely will not be attempting to smoke or vape these.

 

[placebonaut]

Made an account just to respond to this.

I received 10 x 330 mg 2-Methoxyqualone pills, they were branded "lemon 714" on the pill with a break line on the reverse. The pill press used looks very pro and the pills themself are very solid even though they were loose, similar size and quality feel to Indian Soma in a blister pack.

I've used them oral and sublingual.

Oral on an empty stomach with a glass or 2 of wine/hard alcohol with cannabis - it's a classic combo for a reason, amazing....

Sublingual - Subjectively I think this works better with faster onset time and more intense high, you're left with mild chemically warm spot under your tongue afterwards - however I've not tracked this in enough detail yet to draw major conclusions and I suspect my perception is impacted by some tolerance build up, see below.

Dose - I titrated up from 1/8th of a pill (41mg) to 1.5 pills (495mg), mainly taking a full pill 1st then redosing with another half ~60 mins later, I haven't yet taken 495mg in a single dose but plan to on the next batch I get.

Smoking - not tried it, and frankly unless someone reports back that it's mind blowing I don't really want to try smoking it.

Combos - NB All separate sessions not taken together:- Taken T + 3 hours after 1000mg soma they were great (I would love to try soma at the same time as 2-Methoxyqualone but need to take it slow to be safe). Taken towards the end of 330mg of pregablin with cannabis, alcohol, and after 2 bumps of cocaine had warn off while still high on pregab/cannabis/alchohol was fantastic (would like to try them with cocaine to relive studio54). I experimented with a small dose of Ketimine insufulated taken with cannabis and alcohol which was interesting (plan to try again at a higher dose but without the alcohol). When I do combos I tend to take smaller doses of things than I would normally.

Tolerance - during the 2 weeks it took me to consume the 10 pills I feel there was a mild tolerance created, especially when I took them on consecutive days, I plan to take longer breaks between dosing next time. I also would like to research GABA cross tolerance, I've had benzos during the 2 week period as well, likely that at some point Diazepam was still in my system while I was taking the 2-Methoxyqualone.

For anyone reading this clearly there is a risk here with poly drug use on top of the risk of the amount of 2-Methoxyqualone used itself so please be careful to not take too much 2-Methoxyqualone and CNS depressants together.

Feeling - great buzz, warm glow. Heightened sexual feeling, orgasm, and contact. Very relaxing and mellow - I really love this! never had Quaaludes but would love someone who has to report back on how they compare (know that's unlikely given the demographic of users).

Side effect and comedown - none that I noticed! I had 1 day with acute anxiety however that was driven by a personal crisis so don't think the 2-Methoxyqualone was the cause, 1 to watch though as I take the next batch. I'm slightly anxious about taking an RC like this, but have always wanted to try Quaaludes, given this is the only really viable option I thought I'd give it a go, but to be honest it's a bit risky for me and not something I plan to do lots of just in case there's a big issue here. I can see there's a dependency potential to watch out for with too much use.

Biggest issue for me is the cost versus the buzz, know we can't talk about prices, but bang for buck isn't good enough for me personally, though certainly this is 1 to have a small supply of in my box. Keen to hear people's reports back and in particular any more info on downsides, side effects, cross tollerance, and safe combos with other drugs - There's not really enough research out there on this to give the info needed.

 

[Bleaney]

Great reply with lots of info to digest! Thank you.

That was exactly the type of post I was hoping for, but actually had very slim hopes.

I'm more than a bit worse for wear today, so can't really respond very fully, other than to note your careful titration upwards. No one on Reddit did this. There's several threads on there and they all jumped straight in with one full pill. Which I probably would have done too, if not for your post.

I do also have a benzo habit, although that could work both ways, with perhaps it meaning I'd have more tolerance for 2-Methoxyqualone, if they are the same type of GABA, although I don't think they are, IIRC from the other drugs in this class.

So there will be an additive effect, although I will be dosing the 2-Methoxyqualone in the mid afternoon, by which time I'd estimate that I'd have metabolised a good part of my benzo dose, probably at least 50%, as I take them very early in the morning, and due to the subjective feeling of the effects wearing off. But I will now start off with half an oral pill for safety. Wait an hour or so, and then assess. I wont be trying any combos first time, other than the wearing off benzos, and some kratom, and I imagine that it's stimulating effects will offset the power of the downer slightly.

How do they compare to Soma in terms of strength? If they are similar or stronger I think I'll be fine starting with half a 2-Methoxyqualone pill. I guess Soma is the most closely related easily available substance, although i know they are not very closely related, and only very loosely. Somas are wildly unpredictable and unreliably dosed though, but if you were to compare with an average 350 or 500 mg pill? My soma tolerance rose to about 750mg but I haven't used them in months so I will have lost that now. Tbh I would not dream of combining soma and 2-Methoxyqualone. Obviously not before I've even tried 2-Methoxyqualone on it's own, but even after I figure out my tolerance that still sounds like a dangerous combo to me. But it sounds like you know your limits, and I mostly know mine, despite some misjudgments along the way, but I have been lucky with any more potentially dangerous and serious misjudgements, and mostly learnt from them.

 

[placebonaut]

knowing limits is key here, and as you have recognised so is being careful and titrating things up slowly, no point risking it.

I take 1000mg of soma ~3 time a week, have had tolerance breaks and don't see a noticeable difference in the kick when I return. Always have taken orally on an empty stomach but recently I've started to try sublingual, currently titrating the sublingual dose up as it's meant to hit fasters and harder, I'm at 500mg sublingual + 500mg oral currently.

so I know my soma...

Indian soma strength can be a bit hit and miss, I would say on average though that the 2-Methoxyqualone is a bit stronger however the sedative and muscle relaxant strength is weaker than Soma - the 2-Methoxyqualone is doing more which is why it feels stronger to me.

Given what you say about benzo's I'm guessing you're taking something like Xanax, for me I'm not sure that would give me a fun pairing with 2-Methoxyqualone (know you're not saying you're going to try that).

Much better combo would be diazepam as I think it would complement the 2-Methoxyqualone effects nicely, it's on my to do list try with cannabis. As you've got a benzo habit when you're ready to safely try titrating with 2-Methoxyqualone, I'd be tempted to swap to diazepam if that will work with your habit and keep you safe from withdrawal.

EDIT: I've tried kratom and quite liked the effect, I can see it synergising with 2-Methoxyqualone quite well

"I'm more than a bit worse for wear today" - in what way, overdone the drugs and/or mentally? I'm online most of the day if you need to talk. Stay safe, whatever the problem it will pass

 

[Bleaney]

I'm using diazepam and clonazepam, and personally I find that diazepam starts wearing off after about eight 8 hours, although it's meant to be one of the most long lasting benzos, perhaps that's the half life, and not peak effects. I find that the clonazepam peak effects last longer.

Are you saying that having a benzo dose wearing off would be a bad thing? I'm not being thrown into total withdrawal, like I would be on xanax, it's much more that the peak of the effects is subsiding.

Yeah I overdid some substances I've not had access to for some time. I woke this morning feeling awful, after barely any sleep, but tbh as the day has gone on the kratom is working a minor miracle in making me feel well and human again. It works so well at times like this.

 

[placebonaut]

Not saying having the benzo wearing off is a bad thing, I'm just calling out it's an unknown thing and it will still be in your system if you take the 2-Methoxyqualone in the afternoon.

Diazepam wears off at a similar rate for me, IIRC its halflife is ~30-100 hours though, peak for me is from ~2-3 hours, so even though the effects are wearing off it will still be in your system if you take 2-Methoxyqualone in the afternoon, and therefore you need to consider what 2-Methoxyqualone will do to the Diazepam, is it additive? does the the Diazepam potentiate the 2-Methoxyqualone? does the 2-Methoxyqualone potentiate the Diazepam?

not sure what your drivers are for wanted to be on xanax but it's very different to diazepam and clonazepam for me, much less recreational and shorter duration at sensible doses. I sometime have 1-2mg with the soma, add a couple of beers and it's nap time. I much prefer diazepam.

When you say the peak of effects are subsiding, do you mean the peak for diazepam and clonazepam? I'm sure you're aware that this is sign of tolerance building, maybe consider taking a break? but think about if you need to taper to do it safely.

Yay for Kratom, glad it's helping.

 

[Bleaney]

Yeah I know my benzo tolerance is building. I'm working on a plan.

I didn't mean to suggest that I'm wanting to switch to xanax, certainly not as a regular benzo, it could be useful in certain scenarios, but overall the short duration would not be a good thing.

I believe the effects of combinging benzos with 2-Methoxyqualone will be additive, in terms of the sedation, but that will possibly be offset by the kratom.

When you say that the sedative and muscle relaxant strength is weaker than Soma - but the 2-Methoxyqualone is doing more - do you mean regarding the buzz and the warm glow?

Although Soma was very hit and miss, and the peak when it did hit, was always far too brief, and re-dosing would not bring it back for me, I did find the peak very enjoyable, but it only lasted for 30 minutes or so. I felt a pretty heavy level of a buzz, way beyond pleasant, and very nearly, but not quite euphoric. It felt like alcohol drunkeness in a few ways, with the physical clumsiness and disinhibition etc, but alcohol very rarely gives me a good buzz, I'm just not wired for it. I imagine the soma peak feels something like how alcohol feels for those that love the effects of heavy drinking.

 

[placebonaut]

When you say that the sedative and muscle relaxant strength is weaker than Soma - but the 2-Methoxyqualone is doing more - do you mean regarding the buzz and the warm glow?

yes the buzz and warm glow, sense of peaceful bliss (wish this could be stronger), it just has more effects going on that Soma does + overlaps with some of Soma's effects.

Although Soma was very hit and miss, and the peak when it did hit, was always far too brief, and re-dosing would not bring it back for me, I did find the peak very enjoyable, but it only lasted for 30 minutes or so. I felt a pretty heavy level of a buzz, way beyond pleasant, and very nearly, but not quite euphoric. It felt like alcohol drunkeness in a few ways, with the physical clumsiness and disinhibition etc, but alcohol very rarely gives me a good buzz, I'm just not wired for it. I imagine soma feels something like how alcohol feels for those that love the effects of heavy drinking.

Same for me on redosing, it just doesn't work. The amount I'm taking for my weight is just making me relaxed, heavy and chill, I've thought about increasing dose but the time I did with cannabis was enough to cause the soma coma and soma shuffle, not sure the added buzz I got was worth it for me.

I didn't mean to suggest that I'm wanting to switch to xanax, certainly not as a regular benzo, it could be useful in certain scenarios, but overall the short duration would not be a good thing.

yes that's how I use Xanax for its short duration, I would like to switch to Estazolam but it's as rare as Unicorn farts on the markets, only drop shippers have it and I don't trust their product.

I believe the effects of combinging benzos with 2-Methoxyqualone will be additive, in terms of the sedation, but that will possibly be offset by the kratom.

yes I think it will be additive too, kratom might give a mild offset depends on what type you're having. I like to have some stims handy to help counter things if needed.

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I'm using diazepam and clonazepam, and personally I find that diazepam starts wearing off after about eight 8 hours, although it's meant to be one of the most long lasting benzos, perhaps that's the half life, and not peak effects. I find that the clonazepam peak effects last longer.

Are you saying that having a benzo dose wearing off would be a bad thing? I'm not being thrown into total withdrawal, like I would be on xanax, it's much more that the peak of the effects is subsiding.

Yeah I overdid some substances I've not had access to for some time. I woke this morning feeling awful, after barely any sleep, but tbh as the day has gone on the kratom is working a minor miracle in making me feel well and human again. It works so well at times like this.

Yeah clonazepam I will feel into the next day if I take a lot.

 

[sixteenthnight]

does this one cause aberrant mutations or sun sensitivity like some of the other methaqualone analogues?

 

[krodhc314]

Yeah clonazepam I will feel into the next day if I take a lot.

Yeah, I was prescribed Diazepam 10mg qid for about 8 years. I told my doctor the Diazepam wasn't treating me right. She switched me over to Clonazepam 1mg qid and I have found it to be smoother with a good peak. #120 of the Clonazepam doesn't last all month. My wife is prescribed Clonazepam 1mg bid and she hates them so she gives them to me. I just joined this site and I'm in my 60's. But, this is the first time I have heard of 2-Methoxyqualone. In the early 80's I got prescriptions for Quaalude 300. I wonder if it has any of the physical properties of Quaalude. I'll check this out for sure. Regards

 

[placebonaut]

Been doing a bit more digging on reddit and seems consciousness is not smokeable as this is a HCL salt - beyond my knowledge to understand if this is correct though so others will have to explain.

Have also done a bit more digging wider, there's reports of "2-Methoxyqualone poisoning", however reading about it this seems nothing more than taking too much with all the side effects and risks that come with taking too much CNS.

https://grokipedia.com/page/methoxyqualone is worth a read, but not much useful info, main thing i took out is oral bio availability is 70-90% with peak plasma in 1-2 hours, half life 10-40 hours versus ludes at 20-60 (though half life in the paper states it'ss based on analog data from methaqualone so it might not be the same!), though looking at some trip reports it seems duration might actually be shorter for 2-Methoxyqualone (not a problem for me so far!). This paper draws lots of conclusions by simply comparing what methaqualone does and assuming 2-Methoxyqualone is the same.

1 other bit of info I stumbled on is that 2-Methoxyqualone isn't made in the same way as other analogues, specifically it doesn't use o-toluidine which is a known carcinogen, however the main risk of o-toluidine is during manufacture, I can't find reference to o-toluidine analogues actually breaking down in the body back to o-toluidine the o-toluidine seems to be bound in the compound in the body so might not even be an issue for analogues, AI reports back that 2-Methoxyqualone isn't carcinogenic, and it also concludes that Methoxyqualone is likely even less a risk, but I've not found papers referring to that specifically yet, but even the o-toluidine analogues were being mentioned by a seaming chemist as not that risky and a few wouldn't be a big issue. Soooooo 2-Methoxyqualone shouldn't be risky so far from what I've uncovered.

found 1 trip report where user reports using 2-Methoxyqualone combo with "dabbling with occassional low dose gabapentin, booze, and tiny amounts of soma and benzos on odd occasions", backs up my own combo experience with alcohol and pregabalin, and post soma useage. I'm going to give low dose soma and benzo a try at some point. Also other reports using it with Ketamine.

A reference to similarities to Etaqualone which might mean that sublingual bioavailability might therefore be much better, however AI stating that Methoxyqualone is lipophilic so it might help sublingual when disolved in lipids and or fats, and low water solubility might be reducing the sublingual bioavailability (maybe that's why subjectively I found it less hard hitting) - 1 for me to research a bit more. but AI slop guesses the following might be good candidates to try for sublingual use, just dissolve the Methoxyqualone in 1 of the following and stick it under the tongue. There's a warning that it might bind tightly to oil but the worse outcome is that you just swallow it and go down the oral route instead.

Ranking the candidates (hypothetical, based on chemistry)​

Rank	Candidate	Why
1	Ethanol + MCT oil	Best balance of solubility + permeation enhancement
2	Phospholipid carriers	Strong mucosal penetration potential
3	SEDDS / nano‑emulsions	Very effective but more complex
4	Pure MCT oil	Simple, decent solubilizer, moderate improvement
5	Cyclodextrin hybrids	Useful but unpredictable without testing

I'm thinking of giving ethanol and olive oil a try as I have some high proof ethanol to hand, also ethanol and lecithin might be another good test.

I just joined this site and I'm in my 60's. But, this is the first time I have heard of 2-Methoxyqualone. In the early 80's I got prescriptions for Quaalude 300. I wonder if it has any of the physical properties of Quaalude. I'll check this out for sure. Regards

please please please report back, you'll be doing a great service for your people!!

does this one cause aberrant mutations or sun sensitivity like some of the other methaqualone analogues?

nothing for me so far, but no info on this I can find in trip reports from others.

 

[Bleaney]

So my three '2-Methoxyqualone' pills arrived as of 10 days or so, ago. And I've had two trials with them.

Unfortunately, either my 3 pills were massively underdosed, or I'm immune to the effects of the ingredients.

The best I could call the first experience was 'mildly pleasant'. With 2 pills, one swallowed, followed a few hours later by taking the 2nd one sublingually.

And it did feel quite pleasant to be drifting in and out of sleep on the sofa in front of the TV, just before going to bed. But until that point, I didn't really notice or feel anything different at all.

I've returned to the vendors group chat to check out what others are saying, and there is talk of underdosed pills.

It certainly looks like that's what I received.

And to add injury to insult, I also developed a small mouth ulcer for a couple of days afterwards. No biggie, it's cleared after a couple of applications of Bonjela. But it appears to have that in common with sublingual Etaqualone.

The only time I get mouth ulcers is after highly spiced kebabs or curries, and I haven't had either of those for some time. So it must have been the 2-Methoxyqualone.

People were talking about adding alcohol to the mix to activate the low dosed 2-Methoxyqualone pills in order to get something out of them.

Yesterday afternoon I swallowed my 3rd and last pill, with low doses of GBL. (I think it's very strong GBL.) Normally I'd never dream of combining GBL with additional downers, but these 2-Methoxyqualone even when they do work, aren't said to be highly sedating anyway, and I appear to have received some of the pills with barely any, if any at all, of the supposed ingredient.

I was also taking kratom and 2 or 3 teaspoonfulls of a weed enfusement.

Music sounded fucking amazing. But that was almost certainly at least 70% down to the GBL, maybe 25% down to the weed, and perhaps 5% down to the kratom and 2-Methoxyqualone "Quaalude."

 

[placebonaut]

my second batch has arrived from the same vendor as before, last night I had

T0 330mg 2-Methoxyqualoneorally chewed lightly the swallowed on an empty stomach with cannabis, and 2 glasses of wine

T+ 1 hour effects of Methoxyqualone now very noticeable high very pleasant warm contentment with the world, gave me a bit of brain fog. slight head euphoria - the effect was great but not strong enough, I really would like to push this more to get the right effect.

There's a very similar benzo type feeling going on with the buzz, though that's more the benzo feeling I get when I take it with 300mg pregabalin + 20mg Diazapam, I don't get anything from benzo's like that when I take them on there own even at ~60mg diazepam (with no tolerance)

T+1.5-2 - hour 6 bumps of high quality coke - was nice but nothing noticeable as amazing combo, this was much more a test on safety, will titrate the coke up as confidence builds. Certainly hit the peak of the Methoxyqualone during this period though even through the coke, felt pretty roasted with the combo overall

T2 noticed a slight dip in the buzz, suspect Methoxyqualone peak passed and effect about to drop

T+2.5 hours another 330mg Methoxyqualone, more wine (~1.25 bottles in total for the night), timing of second pill overlapped with the 1st pills effects, but not enough cross over to evaluate a combined dose completely, but improved high and now getting some body euphoria,this is just want I'm looking for but it was short lasing, think because the 1st Methoxyqualone was wearing off, guessing duration is shorter that I thought on me

T+6 hours 10 mg diazepam 750mg soma both subligual (my "normal" dose together is 20mg diazepam and 1000mg soma) - no ill effects, can't remember any material increase in the benzo type feeling from the Methoxyqualone. Had 60mg diazapam and 1mg xanax a few days prior

bonus - I had an amazing sleep afterwards, usually that amount of alcohol will cause sleep apnea and I'll only get 5 hours sleep if I'm lucky (coke making that even worse), however I had 13 hours of great quality sleep, no impact on REM, woke feeling so refreshed, my god, just amazing

plan next time is to take 1.5 pills in at the same time, so 496mg Methoxyqualone, with wine and cannabis and I think I will try with pregabalin as a base 1st. then during the trip I may add in some diazepam/xanax/soma. need play this by ear and be very cautious given CNS stacking risk. will go easy and have a few bumps of cocaine along the way.

I've returned to the vendors group chat to check out what others are saying, and there is talk of underdosed pills.

can you give me a hint where this is so I can look too please

The only time I get mouth ulcers is after highly spiced kebabs or curries, and I haven't had either of those for some time. So it must have been the 2-Methoxyqualone.

Think that aligns with my burning feeling when I tried subligual

People were talking about adding alcohol to the mix to activate the low dosed 2-Methoxyqualone pills in order to get something out of them.

Have had them on their own/with cannabis and Alcohol defiantly makes a big difference, don't think I'll bother taking them without

Thanks for sharing your trip report, good to have more info from others.

 

[cnnka]

Is 2-Methoxyqualone sold legally in Europe in RC’s websites ?
Also @placebonaut not to judge but I find what you do very risky with all those cns depressants stack I also enjoy benzos with some alcohol , but I’ve had randomly blacked out on a very low dosage one time , so that tells me that tolerance does not play a role , so be careful !!

 

[Bleaney]

Is 2-Methoxyqualone sold legally in Europe in RC’s websites ?

No. It isn't. It on one of the newer marketplaces. I don't think I can say much more than that, due to sourcing rules.

 

[placebonaut]

Also @placebonaut not to judge but I find what you do very risky with all those cns depressants stack I also enjoy benzos with some alcohol , but I’ve had randomly blacked out on a very low dosage one time , so that tells me that tolerance does not play a role , so be careful !!

yes I agree, recognized the risk and called it out myself above.

I am being careful, I'm adding things in individually, and titrating up slowly, same when I'm mixing things. I know about the dose, half life, interactions, potentiation, cross tolerance, and pharmacology of everything I take - I'm also not pushing the limits on anything I'm taking, I don't do that with any drug I do, generally I'm a light user of things.

yes I'm taking a risk here, but it's an informed risk, and one that I'm doing in a way that trys to mitigate the unknown risk as much as possible - that's the main issue here to be honest, I understand quaalude and it's analogue pharmacology fairly well so this analogue "should" behave in a generally similar way but no-one knows what the risks are until some idiot tries it - enter me who's willing to give it a go

I appreciate the concern, thanks for calling it out and looking after my safety

I'm not looking for a high that totally knocks me out mentally/physically, driving much more for a social chill effect with better body euphoria, I want to be able to interact with people. For anyone whose done it, looking for something like GHB/GBL with methedrone, but I would like some of the benzo type effect added in.

I know the risks here, and have done my due diligence, everyone must take responsibility for their own actions - be careful folks, do your research and remember everyone's body chemistry and reaction to drugs is different.

think some combo here would fit the bill as a chill out with friends at home thing is my thinking, GHB + methedrone is much more suitable for a night out.

 

[placebonaut]

been a bit distracted this week but had another single pill from the 2nd batch, empty stomach, weed and wine.

very weak!

wonder if there's a bit of variance between individual pills going on here as well??

 

[placebonaut]

here we go again...experimental trip report

T0 600mg pregabalin oral on empty stomach (5+ hours since food) + 20mg diazepam sublingual - this is my base, duration will be 8-10 hours
T+1 cannabis
T+4 large glass of wine - occasional very mild visuals from the pregabalin (normal for me when I take higher dose), very nice body relaxation from the diazepam. feeling very chill overall, nice multi-cross potentiation going on which I really love (do your research on CNS and GABA-A, 20mg diazapam here hits me harder than 60mg without pregablin still with wine and cannibis, be careful effects here this is more than additive!)
T+5 330mg 2-Methoxyqualone oral chewed empty stomach (not eaten since 10 hours ago) + glass of wine
T+5.5 fuzzy head, warm glow, slight body euphoria starting to kick in, will give it another 30 mins and consider a 2nd Methoxyqualone. More cannabis.
T+6 no real improvement, need a higher dose of Methoxyqualone, this feels about the same as my previous pregabalin + Methoxyqualone + wine + cannabis experience, adding in the diazepam is noticeable but I think with a higher dose of Methoxyqualone it's not needed, i also think the pregablin isn't needed just a higher dose of Methoxyqualone + wine + cannabis would be fine
T+6 330mg Methoxyqualone, chewed, still empty stomach
T+6.5 2nd Methoxyqualone is kicking in, predominant effect is sedative, increase in euphoria but it seems dulled, hard to maintain focus on 1 subject for more than 120 seconds, writing this is difficult, would be very content listening to music and chilling. suspect other drugs are negatively limiting the Methoxyqualone e.g. benzo/Methoxyqualone GABA-A different channel opening mechanism and the subsequent interaction on opening channels - I'm well beyond my personal knowledge here, would welcome any chemists who understand the parmacology better please who could try to extrapolate likely effects of quaalude analogues with these combos, there's not really much research here to go on
T+7 no major change, Methoxyqualone seems to peak for me after 30 mins on empty stomach with wine and weed. could happily take a 3rd I think, but concerned about what the max dose is before danger hits...going to eat instead and have a strong beer + more weed
T+7 off to get food, walking effected (bit unstable and feel need to hold onto things to stabalize), speech slurred, some double vision, feel very fucked laid back and chill, but would like to be more hammered, euphoria is pretty poor with this combo much less than without the diazapam.

still high at T+7 but my conclusion is to try this with no other drugs on top of wine and cannabis - will do that at 660mg in 1 hit next time, and then will try same thing but with coke as well. going to leave GABAs for a week at least, maybe 2 to ensure a decent baseline, only have 4x 330 Methoxyqualone left so limited in options on what to do next.

Price v reward is currently very shit, the reward I think will be very good if I can get the combo and dose right - even if I do not sure it's worth the cost. will try some of the cheaper vendors next time, see if the product is just as strong, if it is that makes things more viable, but still very dependent on potentiation from alcohol I think, guessing this analogue isn't strong enough....

 

[cnnka]

So dosent hit very well if at all ?