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Not even sure how to explain what it is to anyone who doesn't know, so I'm just gonna post the definition here:

"texts that demand "nontrivial effort" from the reader to navigate and construct meaning, going beyond simple eye movement and page turning"

Here's examples of the one's I have read:

Horrorstor, Grady Hendrix is probably the "softest" examples as it reads closest to a traditional novel, but is essentially a haunting/ghost story that in set inside of a store that is "not" Ikea [but definitely IS Ikea...Swedish store that is predominately a furniture store and has that exact same Ikea layout] and is published in the form of an Ikea catalogue.
The story itself is just so-so IM0, but the novelty was fun.

House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski is probably the most famous [only famous?] example of the genre, but it would take me forever to explain or describe this thing in any way, so...look it up? IDK

Currently reading Ella Minnow Pea by Mark Dunn. The titular character lives on an island with that sentence that contains every letter - "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" - on a giant sign and it's kinda their town motto. 0ne day the "z" falls off the sign and the town elders decide that this is like divine intervention and decide to use the letter "z" in speech or writing. As time goes on and additional letters fall from the sign, these too become banned. The author himself also stops using each letter as it falls in the story. But not with tricks like misspelling things, replacing "i" with "1" or leaving blank spaces, rather still using real and correctly spelled words, which is fascinating to see how keeps managing this as the book goes on, especially toward the end when only the letters "L", "M", "N", "0" and "P" are left.
 
Not even sure how to explain what it is to anyone who doesn't know, so I'm just gonna post the definition here:

"texts that demand "nontrivial effort" from the reader to navigate and construct meaning, going beyond simple eye movement and page turning"

Here's examples of the one's I have read:

Horrorstor, Grady Hendrix is probably the "softest" examples as it reads closest to a traditional novel, but is essentially a haunting/ghost story that in set inside of a store that is "not" Ikea [but definitely IS Ikea...Swedish store that is predominately a furniture store and has that exact same Ikea layout] and is published in the form of an Ikea catalogue.
The story itself is just so-so IM0, but the novelty was fun.

House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski is probably the most famous [only famous?] example of the genre, but it would take me forever to explain or describe this thing in any way, so...look it up? IDK

Currently reading Ella Minnow Pea by Mark Dunn. The titular character lives on an island with that sentence that contains every letter - "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" - on a giant sign and it's kinda their town motto. 0ne day the "z" falls off the sign and the town elders decide that this is like divine intervention and decide to use the letter "z" in speech or writing. As time goes on and additional letters fall from the sign, these too become banned. The author himself also stops using each letter as it falls in the story. But not with tricks like misspelling things, replacing "i" with "1" or leaving blank spaces, rather still using real and correctly spelled words, which is fascinating to see how keeps managing this as the book goes on, especially toward the end when only the letters "L", "M", "N", "0" and "P" are left.
Mark Dunn's book sounds very OULIPO. And for sure, some OULIPO stuff can be described as ergodic.

But the notion of ergodic literature makes me think of a lot of poetry, e.g. poets associated with the New York School or language poetry, or adjacent to those, or following in their wake. E.g. Clark Coolidge, Lyn Hejinian, Ron Silliman, Bernadette Mayer, Charles Bernstein, Jackson Mac Low.

Fiction-wise there's also Nabokov's Pale Fire.
 
The Tunnel by William H. Gass is both difficult in its construction, and in having a very very nasty narrator drowning in his own hate.

Peace by Gene Wolfe is a very unassuming book which forces you to really read between the lines in a way I haven’t had to do before.

Gravity’s Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon is an indescribably zany, erudite, bizarre, profane, and holy book with layers upon layers to peel back. (I’d say his book Mason and Dixon was harder for me to read due to the dialect, but Gravity’s Rainbow hit me a lot harder).

I’d be amiss to not mention a book by David Foster Wallace, like Infinite Jest, or The Pale King. Jest is a lot more famous, and gels with this website with its insight about addiction and desire, and it’s absurd dark humor, but The Pale King is a wonderful meditation on boredom.
 
The Tunnel by William H. Gass is both difficult in its construction, and in having a very very nasty narrator drowning in his own hate.

Peace by Gene Wolfe is a very unassuming book which forces you to really read between the lines in a way I haven’t had to do before.

Gravity’s Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon is an indescribably zany, erudite, bizarre, profane, and holy book with layers upon layers to peel back. (I’d say his book Mason and Dixon was harder for me to read due to the dialect, but Gravity’s Rainbow hit me a lot harder).

I’d be amiss to not mention a book by David Foster Wallace, like Infinite Jest, or The Pale King. Jest is a lot more famous, and gels with this website with its insight about addiction and desire, and it’s absurd dark humor, but The Pale King is a wonderful meditation on boredom.
Infinite Jest for sure! I've only read bits of The Pale King.

I've struggled to get into Pynchon. I read The Crying of Lot 49, which kinda left me cold. Couldn't get into V either.
 
Infinite Jest for sure! I've only read bits of The Pale King.

I've struggled to get into Pynchon. I read The Crying of Lot 49, which kinda left me cold. Couldn't get into V either.
The crying of lot 49 is a perfect litmus test imo. If you don’t like his shtick there, you aren’t gonna like it in his doorstopper novels.
 
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