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Opioids XTampza - how to defeat the E.R.??

oxyloxy

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Does anybody know what could work to break the time release in Xtampza?? Something that’s not too difficult? I hate that crap (xtampza) but insurance won’t cover my beloved OxyContin and my only other option is MS Contin and that doesn’t really help much better. So I take 27.5(?) Xtampza. I read somewhere on here to take olive oil, sprinkle the medication in it and then heat it on a spoon for 1 minute until it completely dissolves, then make sure it is cool enough and then take it. That was supposedly supposed to break the time release, but I didn’t notice a difference. Also, as the spoon cooled, it looked like it was trying to cloud up and go back together, but I drank it down before that happened.
 
Does anybody know what could work to break the time release in Xtampza?? Something that’s not too difficult? I hate that crap (xtampza) but insurance won’t cover my beloved OxyContin and my only other option is MS Contin and that doesn’t really help much better. So I take 27.5(?) Xtampza. I read somewhere on here to take olive oil, sprinkle the medication in it and then heat it on a spoon for 1 minute until it completely dissolves, then make sure it is cool enough and then take it. That was supposedly supposed to break the time release, but I didn’t notice a difference. Also, as the spoon cooled, it looked like it was trying to cloud up and go back together, but I drank it down before that happened.
I used to put oxy XR pills in coca cola for 8-12h and that does a pretty ok job of turning them IR, like 80%. got it from @cdin. no idea if that would work for your brand coz i used that for oxydolors. just throwing stuff out there
 
Does anybody know what could work to break the time release in Xtampza?? Something that’s not too difficult? I hate that crap (xtampza) but insurance won’t cover my beloved OxyContin and my only other option is MS Contin and that doesn’t really help much better. So I take 27.5(?) Xtampza. I read somewhere on here to take olive oil, sprinkle the medication in it and then heat it on a spoon for 1 minute until it completely dissolves, then make sure it is cool enough and then take it. That was supposedly supposed to break the time release, but I didn’t notice a difference. Also, as the spoon cooled, it looked like it was trying to cloud up and go back together, but I drank it down before that happened.
Anybody? Bueller? 🤓
 
yes You can look it up on YouTube. There's a video but there's also some forums in here but I can't find them at the current time. You can open the capsule, put it in a spoon with some cooking oil. I use coconut oil, heat it up, the wax dissolves and the oxycodone falls to the bottom. Wait for the oil to cool off a little bit. Drink the oil. I know it sounds crazy but it works. For some reason they put the medicine in these wax animal fat balls. That's what's inside the pill. Once you heat it up, the wax dissolves into the oil and the medicine drops to the bottom of your spoon I found the YouTube link. I'll post it. It's very easy to do. Just don't get it too hot because it will burn your tongue. It does workhttps://youtu.be/hhtjATlqUHE?si=tDT6WT76G3g5dTzE
 
  • US 9,044,398 (June 8, 2015): Covers the DETERx technology platform for multiple opioids and non-opioids.
  • US 7,771,707 B2: Related to abuse-deterrent drug formulations.
  • US Application 12/823,628 (2013): Led to a patent for Oxycodone DETERx, focusing on tamper resistance (crushing, chewing, heating).
  • US 9,737,530 B1 (Published 2017): For the process of making stable abuse-deterrent oral formulations.

Read them first. If you think about it, it's not hard to think of a number of different stratergies to overcome the technologies. If oxycodone is presented as a zinc complex (a neat way to avoid having to class it as a new drug) then your good. Waxes almost by definition display lowish meltiing points and most soften. If nothing else, it's got to release the medication in the conditions inside the digestive tract so if you aren't in a rush, you could simulate that.

I recall about twenty years ago mention of an 'unabusable' form of Opana (oxymorphone) had replaced the original and within DAYS someone had worked out that the SR employed polyamides so they just put a bunch of the pills into Everclear (so absolute ethanol more or less) and next day the pills were gone.

But whenever someone brings this type of thing up, I worry that the intention is to inject the contents of the pill. That is NEVER a good idea because excipients often end up mixed in with the active and are dangerous if injected.

A lot of myths build up around drugs and back in the 1980s people were claiming that Diconal tablets contained sand (silica) which they did not. That injecting them quickly ruined veins so that was considered proof. So I went and checked and Diconal tablets had never contained silica. They certainly contained excipients that made injection an extremely bad idea... but it's fascinating how when someone even has access to the PIL, they fail to read it and asscribe properties that are not even educated guesses. Just guesses spoken as absolute facts.

So I don't think injecting any pill is a good plan.

In the case of oxycodone it's actually a REALLY stupid plan because when consumed orallly, about 10% of any amount of oxycodone undergoes first-pass metabolism by the liver and is convered into oxymorphone. Now old papers state this as a fact but go on to say that the oxymorphone metabolite isn't significant in the activity of oxycodone. BUT in the last decade use of knockout mice showed that the oxymorphone metabolite was significant and the latest papers suggest that the metabolite might be responsible for half of the activity.

Or, put simply, oxycodone is a rare example of a drug that is more active if consumed orally than if consumed by a parentheral route. I suspect that MAY have been the logic employed by the people who developed Oxycontin. Nobody would shoot them as it would actually be less active. But they didn't communicate the fact and I guess needles give rushes - and some people WANT the rushes.
 
It is a free country.

Is it?

Even in the UK you really do need to have a serious visible injury before they will even consider opioids. The simple logic is that short-term pain isn't directly life-threatening and if someone may require emergency surgery, a patient who has been given an opioid that can make anesthesia more complicated. By visible I include CT, MRI, ultrasound and so on. But in the end someone has to look at an image and decide what the insult to the body really is.

Also, to be frank, at least in the UK clinicians will generally only give 10mg of morphine and possibly a second 10mg (after ten minutes) if the pain is refractive. But even without tolerance, it essentially does nothing. Or at least I couldn't note ANY change in the level of pain. Finally I got someone to give me codeine... which worked.
 
^They once gave me a placebo before the 10 mg of morphine -- even though I was just goin through the motions I was on suboxone lol
 
^They once gave me a placebo before the 10 mg of morphine -- even though I was just goin through the motions I was on suboxone lol

Now that's just one more perfectly good reason why parking clients on what to me seems ridiculously large doses of buprenorphine is a badly thought out stratergy.

A friend in the US who must have been one of the first clients to be put onto the buprenorphine protocol was in a serious car accident. They had to be cut out of their vehicle and placed onto a backboard without any analgesia whatsoever. A few nations do (or at least did) use non-opioids for emergency analgesia. Ketamine in The Netherlands and methoxflurane (Penthrox) in Australia. I'm sure others can provide more examples.

But at least a bit of joined-up thinking went on.

I know of one case in the US where someone on the buprenorphine protocol suffered serious burns to large areas of their body. In that case a consultant anesthetist prescribed sufentanil. Now I don't know the details of the case but assume that a syringe-driver or similar was employed.

But getting back to the point. It's impossible to defeat a consumer to who the drug could be worth orders of magnitude more than the cost of manufacture of any technique designed to stop 'abuse'. I really have no idea how much oxycodone costs in bulk but it was generally made from thebaine extracted from the oriental poppy. But in the last decade or so I've noted a few Chinese papers and patents in which codeine is the initial precusror. Now before anyone asks, it would be utterly pointless to undertake the synthesis at anything but a very large scale. But I suspect China doesn't wish to rely on other nations for it's therbaine requirements.
 
Makes sense to me and I can only think of the one such situation codeine > hyrdomorphone involving palladium black. But I don't know chemistry like that and synth discussion isn't allowed anyways --- on a large enough scale though.

Theoretically there is a connection between China and where the heroin comes from. ( IDK if its theoretic anymore even --- would make good sense things flow both ways )

I agree on parking patients on such a high dose and theoretically never really took the full dose. Okay maybe a week or so because it gave me a buzz but I knew it was dumb going in lol
 
I take this and it is possible to beat extended release this is the video I found it does work 100% us coconut oil
 
This is almost exactly what I do, but let me offer something to save a few steps. First off I use Bertolli extra-virgin olive oil lol. Second, I have the spoon ready, and I usually have it resting on a slight incline, such as my bottle of toothpaste, since I often do it in the bathroom, and then I put the EVOO right onto the spoon. I like a candle. I’ve learned to kind of eye it (the oil) and correctly determine how much is needed. The next thing idea is open up the capsules and pour them onto the oil…

I’ve been take the spoon, usually take a small bit of paper towel to hold the end with otherwise it’ll burn my fingers off… And I wait until it melts. Once it has melted completely and it just looks like your standard EVOO, I listened to about four minutes worth of whatever, whether it’s YouTube or something on X… The first two minutes I spend lightly blowing on the oil to cool it down a bit, and then the second two minutes are spent in ingesting the oil. I always have a cup of grapefruit, juice, nearby, and I take the grapefruit juice with it. It really does work, no doubt about it. And the grapefruit juice makes it kick off like a regular release, but yet it stays around in your system for a longer time. As far as the video goes, word to the wise – if it gets that cloudy, it has already started to reconstitute back together and it’s not going to work as well. That’s why you have to blow on the oil and then drink it after about a minute or two… Because once it starts getting cloudy like that, it’s going back to its original time release crappy form, and you will have done all those steps for nothing. I hope this helps!
 
Makes sense to me and I can only think of the one such situation codeine > hyrdomorphone involving palladium black.

Sad news. That patent turned out to yield mostly codeinone. The yield was based on the outdated BRSM (by recovered starting material) methodology.

Peter X Wang is named as inventor of some patents obtained in the last two decades. That DOES work but does require quite specific protocols.
 
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