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Shooting nose beer

I must say, i might be in the minority here, but I do not like Cocaine.

Ive tried it in all forms. Ive had bad stuff and Ive had "fishscale" etc. The only thing that hooks me is if I inject it or smoke it.

There is nothing subjectively "good" about taking a hit of Crack for me, ditto for injection. There is a 20-30 second feeling of overwhelming physical euphoria, but in my mind i do not feel "good"

It is that 30 seconds of great euphoria followed by rapidly dropping levels that make cravings take over the experience anyway.

Then youre just tense, anxious, craving another hit. Your mind immediately turns to "how much more do I have" and the effects of the Cocaine have you concerned about running out of Cocaine while you're still high and still have Cocaine.

The last few hits just suck as you know they are the last ones. Your paranoia and anxiety mean you can't actually "enjoy" them.

Then you scrape your pipe and collect resin to smoke. Then you scrape your pipe again.

Once the pipe is clean, then its time to look for all of the crack you probably dropped by accident im the shag carpet. Your mind plays a picture of you furiously, carelessly handling the drugs, soothing yourself with the notion that there must be crack in that carpet.

And what luck? There is crack literally everywhere in this carpet. A rock here, a rock there, you cant believe there could be so much crack just sitting on your floor, waiting.

You put it in your pipe following 3-4 hours of scouring your floor for every piece or debris other than crack that you could find.

You pack your carpet lint, rock salt from your boots, random pieces of plastic and inhale. Its only then that you have finally come down enough to regain the common sense that there is no crack in your carpet.

You then cry about how you spent your entire biweekly paycheck on crack AGAIN. You're disappointed in yourself. Last time, you swore you would never carpet surf again, that practice is for real crack heads not me, you told yourself.

You then suddenly realize you've been doing the same exact thing, every time for the past 30 years. You've never learned your lesson though. Just like scraping the pipe, spending hours finding garbage to smoke in your carpet is just part of your daily life.

...like I said. I have some good friends who relapsed recently. To see how far they have fallen in a single year is just devastating. No money, no dignity, no love. What a fucking way to live.

I will never judge. I will always connect peopke with the information they need. Regarding Crack though, i have to tell anyone who is thinking of trying it, dont. There is a cornucopia of cool substances out there. One hit is all it takes.

Ive seen PTA mothers with husbands and kids, try Crack for the first time at ~40 only to abandon their family and be pimped out by their crack dealer within months (true story).

Crack is less a "psychoacrive journey" than it is a physical and spiritual raping.
 
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More of a rant of frustration than anything sorry this is my first post... ive been addicted to almost every street drug and a hand full of pharmaceuticals... lately my thing has been injecting cocaine and it's becoming really frustrating because it's not only expensive, but I get super shaky and the high seems to only last 10 to 15 minutes. And then I'm frustrated and want to do something else, but I end up just doing more, I don't know if anybody can relate give me advice. I'd appreciate it, thanks.
i know you probably hear this everyday but i swear rehab changes lives
 
@nznity used to shoot crack. He doesn't recommend it
I've never shot crack, I used to shoot hydrochloride. But both are equally detrimental for the body. And yes, I'm totally against it. That way of consuming blow will tear your soul apart before u even notice.
don't do it guys. 🆗 👍🏻
 
I must say, i might be in the minority here, but I do not like Cocaine.

Ive tried it in all forms. Ive had bad stuff and Ive had "fishscale" etc. The only thing that hooks me is if I inject it or smoke it.

There is nothing subjectively "good" about taking a hit of Crack for me, ditto for injection. There is a 20-30 second feeling of overwhelming physical euphoria, but in my mind i do not feel "good"

It is that 30 seconds of great euphoria followed by rapidly dropping levels that make cravings take over the experience anyway.

Then youre just tense, anxious, craving another hit. Your mind immediately turns to "how much more do I have" and the effects of the Cocaine have you concerned about running out of Cocaine while you're still high and still have Cocaine.

The last few hits just suck as you know they are the last ones. Your paranoia and anxiety mean you can't actually "enjoy" them.

Then you scrape your pipe and collect resin to smoke. Then you scrape your pipe again.

Once the pipe is clean, then its time to look for all of the crack you probably dropped by accident im the shag carpet. Your mind plays a picture of you furiously, carelessly handling the drugs, soothing yourself with the notion that there must be crack in that carpet.

And what luck? There is crack literally everywhere in this carpet. A rock here, a rock there, you cant believe there could be so much crack just sitting on your floor, waiting.

You put it in your pipe following 3-4 hours of scouring your floor for every piece or debris other than crack that you could find.

You pack your carpet lint, rock salt from your boots, random pieces of plastic and inhale. Its only then that you have finally come down enough to regain the common sense that there is no crack in your carpet.

You then cry about how you spent your entire biweekly paycheck on crack AGAIN. You're disappointed in yourself. Last time, you swore you would never carpet surf again, that practice is for real crack heads not me, you told yourself.

You then suddenly realize you've been doing the same exact thing, every time for the past 30 years. You've never learned your lesson though. Just like scraping the pipe, spending hours finding garbage to smoke in your carpet is just part of your daily life.

...like I said. I have some good friends who relapsed recently. To see how far they have fallen in a single year is just devastating. No money, no dignity, no love. What a fucking way to live.

I will never judge. I will always connect peopke with the information they need. Regarding Crack though, i have to tell anyone who is thinking of trying it, dont. There is a cornucopia of cool substances out there. One hit is all it takes.

Ive seen PTA mothers with husbands and kids, try Crack for the first time at ~40 only to abandon their family and be pimped out by their crack dealer within months (true story).

Crack is less a "psychoacrive journey" than it is a physical and spiritual raping.

What’s interesting about it is the phenomenon that the seconds or minutes (pretty much od situation) of rush outweighs the ten minutes of hell? People know what they are going into when they are addicted.. but still do it.. presumably for that short extreme rush.
 
first question is what is the % of absorption for insufflation when compared to IV

what is the absorption for IM compared to IV

usually IS = 60-70%
IM = 90%
IV= 95%

weight risks to reward.
you are the steward of your destiny.
 
My understanding is that the benefit of "shooting crack" is that the process of making crack separates the pure cocaine salt from the impurities in the drug, giving the injector pure cocain
More of a rant of frustration than anything sorry this is my first post... ive been addicted to almost every street drug and a hand full of pharmaceuticals... lately my thing has been injecting cocaine and it's becoming really frustrating because it's not only expensive, but I get super shaky and the high seems to only last 10 to 15 minutes. And then I'm frustrated and want to do something else, but I end up just doing more, I don't know if anybody can relate give me advice. I'd appreciate it, thanks.
Just don't go this route man, I am telling you from a standpoint where it took over my life. I was a professional executive for a company, thought I was smart enough to control the use while being a high functioning addict, eventually you become low functioning and it consumes you. When you are not using it, do you experience the shooter withdrawal? Eventually, shooting coke is all you do and everything else is prioritized beneath it, which is a mixture for disaster. I lost everything because of this. Let it go and don't look back.
 
first question is what is the % of absorption for insufflation when compared to IV

what is the absorption for IM compared to IV

usually IS = 60-70%
IM = 90%
IV= 95%

weight risks to reward.
you are the steward of your destiny.
I heard from a friend who is a chemical engineer (who also bangs it) that the bio-availability is 100% when shot up. Which is far greater than the other two methods. You're going directly into the bloodstream which bypasses all your body's defenses and mechanisms. Hence why it wares off so fast. The faster it comes, the faster it goes. But hell the feeling of it after the first 5 seconds is bliss. I love getting the taste in the back of my throat, the stronger the taste the stronger the high. But for noobs, I say don't even bother, learning how to properly and safely inject is a whole other process itself and people butcher themselves trying. You gotta have a level of "needle finesse" to do this right or you completely miss or semi miss which is wasting not only your time but also your dope. The first time I actually hit a small vein and got the full high was like 5 months into it, it takes a while to get to know your own body and where your "good" and bad veins are.
 
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What’s interesting about it is the phenomenon that the seconds or minutes (pretty much od situation) of rush outweighs the ten minutes of hell? People know what they are going into when they are addicted.. but still do it.. presumably for that short extreme rush.
Yup, the high is that good, that's why. I have never felt anything that comes close to it that is an upper. Everything just feels better when you're in that time zone of 5-10 minutes. Music even sounds sped up which is a fucking trip.
 
Yes, injecting Cocaine is definitely worse than vaporizing Cocaine in the form of Crack. First, the high is short-lived and every administration requires another injection. Back in the day, when I was really stupid, I put an intravenous catheter in my arm and the arm of my then-partner so we could inject Cocaine all night without having to stick ourselves each time. We would just draw up the solution into a luer-lock syringe and inject in increments. If you´re going to inject Cocaine, that´s really the only way to do it. I don´t know why more people don´t. You can order this shit on the internet easily and if you can administer an intravenous injection, you can set up an intravenous catheter.

But that´s just the administration. Injecting Cocaine is even more intense that vaporization/smoking. Your description of chasing the first rush is textbook. The successive injections are never as good, yet you can´t stop chasing it. It´s just not a practice that ever leads to anything positive for anyone who does it. One could say, ¨Well I did Heroin or drank a lot of Alcohol and I still wrote a masterpiece novel¨, but nobody smoking Crack is ever working on their novel or painting their masterpiece in their studio. When you´re using Cocaine like that, you´re either high, preparing your next hit or scouring the carpet for pieces of Cocaine. There is not a lot of versatility there.

I´m not a DARE officer guys. However, in my life I´ve seen and used all of the drugs. Injecting Cocaine is a one way ticket to fucking misery and smoking Crack is generally no better. People tell me all the time ¨well, I can just smoke a little and put it down, most people can´t do that¨ and you´ll see them ready to get on their knees for a $5 rock. I know a couple; good friends of mine. They were crackheads but got clean and straightened out. They go 5-6 years, drinking a little bit, smoking weed and attending the Methadone clinic. They got an apartment, a car and they were in general just doing great.

One day, I´m not sure exactly what happened, but they told me they had smoked a little crack the night before. They were joking about it, but I was seriously concerned when they told me. It´s now about a year later. Their car was sold to a dealer for 7g of Crack when they were on a binge. That equates to what, maybe $100-$150 at most for a dealer. They continued to spiral. They let their crack dealer live with them. The crack dealer turned them into animals. He made them beg for it. He gave them little crumbles of nothing to shut them up. When they tried to get him to leave, he ended up threatening them and firing a shot into the wall.

So now, they are going to lose their apartment for violating the rules and inviting guns and violence into the place. They have less than a month before the sherriff shows up. They have a lifetime of shit in there. Everything from the past several years. They have no plan whatsoever. They are just continuing to smoke crack all day and they now have a different dealer living with them.

Crack just got its hooks in them. It has completely destroyed the both of them. Now I´m trying to convince them to take action, fight the eviction, do anything, but they can´t stop just smoking crack long enough to fill out a form that could potentially let them keep their apartment. They are likely going to sit there and smoke crack until the moment the sheriff comes to remove them. The woman has cirrhosis of the liver and is genuinely at death´s door, jaundiced.

Another one of ¨Keif´s Really, Really Good Stories¨ I apologize for rambling. Cocaine will hollow you out and leave nothing but a husk.
That is truly addicted man. I at least take care of my priorities and get high. And even when I am high, I work on things that need to get done and space it out. You have to have some form of balance. And doing it every second is a waste, waiting and letting the urge and withdrawal to kick in makes the hit that much better. I dunno, not the way I would roll, but to each their own.
 
So, by your own words, the high is short-lived, gives you unpleasant physical symptoms, and leaves you frustrated, ie little pay-off for a lot of money. Then ask yourself is it still worth the bother -?
Some people don't get the intense shitty feeling, I don't get anxiety anymore, just a craving which I can endure. After some while, your body becomes tolerant to the crash. At least for me anyways.
 
Ive always preferred a rush over a lingering high but i under stand this is maybe those worst one besides crack
I agree with you, the rush is too Godly good, but I think meth (never tried it but heard stories) is the worst out there, I mean its all household chemicals which is so much worse for you. If it grows off the earth then it can't be as bad as a purely synthetic drug like meth.
 
I agree with you, the rush is too Godly good, but I think meth (never tried it but heard stories) is the worst out there, I mean its all household chemicals which is so much worse for you. If it grows off the earth then it can't be as bad as a purely synthetic drug like meth.
Including datura -?
 
smoking crack introduced me to dangerous hood situations where I was way over my head. Surprised I never got jumped in a crack house. I did get jumped in the Tenderloin tho.. The worst day of my using was that next morning after waking in the hospital to a doctor stitching up my lip where I had clearly been punched so hard my teeth broke and cut right through my lip. All of downtown San Francisco was bright and cheery with business people bustling about...

and there I was, walking my clothes covered in blood, the pockets ripped out of my pants by that gang of crackheads who had surrounded me when I was busy turning down a rock that I complained was salt.

I met my gf and began to drink heavily as we checked into a fancy hotel. I never went to a bad neighborhood again after that and never will. And holy ffuck I will never smoke crack again. And fuckin fuck I will NEVER DRINK AGAIN!!!!
 
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