Opioids Finally ended oxy habit with ZERO withdrawals!!! SR-17018 is insane. Opiate withdrawal cure

[melba0320]

Where can we get Sr17

Did you end up getting clean? I’d love to hear about your experience!

 

[Tetrapharmakos]

It is possible to get drugs tested guys!!!

 

[Tetrapharmakos]

I would like to hear more from some long term success stories I hear loads of people claiming success but with posts like “I just finished 3 days ago and no withdrawals!” Yeah what about 3 months from then, or 6 months etc. I have heard that the mental part of the addiction is still present but I have yet to try using this myself

I am still clean now, months later. My girl also used SR-17 to finally get off of her methadone script.

It does not solve the psychological aspect of addiction. However, the acute withdrawal symptoms and PAWS are a massive barrier preventing many from getting free of dependency, and IMO SR-17 can completely take care of acute/post acute withdrawal symptoms and that makes it much much easier to care for the psychological side.

 

[Stassi202]

Methadone and Subs exist for opiate dependency but NOTHING exists for cocaine or meth addiction

 

[4DQSAR]

In Brazil(I think is right) they have invented and there are some clinical animal testing of a drug that prevents cocaine from crossing the BBB and thus NO HIGH.

Fascinating stuff!!!!

I believe there is also some manner of cocaine vaccine (TC-DA) and a cocaine vaccine. Even years ago someone I knew in the US had some sort of implant that stopped methamphetamine fom working.

It IS all fascinating but I would love to know if and how they are used. As someone noted, a one-off treatment is nowhere nearly as profitable as a model that requires boosters. I suggest that unless such vaccines are potential sentences for people whose crimninal action was untimately needed to fund their dtug use, would many opt for them. But I'm no expert into those particular compounds. Dull chemistry and seems to damage a lot of people.

 

[Them Witches]

Methadone and Subs exist for opiate dependency but NOTHING exists for cocaine or meth addiction

Back in the day 2003-2007, the Crack addicts hated on the Methadone clinic b/c there was nothing for the them to help.

 

[Jnowhere]

Wish the stupidity of the USA government would try’s to cure OUD. Instead it creates a black market for street drugs like Fentanyl from China and Mexico or put you long acting junk called subuxone, Subutex and Sublocade. What happened to the money the feds did with the lawsuit they won against big pharmaceutical industry. Then there is the lobbyist for big Pharmaceutical against if they can’t make any money from alternative treatments!

Curing addicts would cost the government a lot of money, from lobbyists from so many areas. Too much corruption and The war on drugs is big business and Our politicians on both sides don't wanna lose that money.

The cops and feds don't want their jobs jeopardized, either.

What about the people? THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT ARE IN ON THE OPIOD WAR!

OBAMA STARTED IT, THE REPUBLICANS FOLLOWED. MOST DEMOCRATS ALSO.:

 

[Biomed Tech Guy]

NOTHING exists for cocaine or meth addiction

No comparison IMO to the physical addiction to opioids and kratom alkaloids, not even close.
Cocaine addiction was 90+% mental, and as bad as it was, I quit CT and never had the desire to pick up again.
Opioids and kratom alkaloids OTOH make you more sensitive to the pains that got you on them to begin with, so there's even worse pain coming off, physical addiction on top of that, and the mental addiction.

 

[aspiringchemist]

from your local drug dealer or internet source. (Is the nice way of saying you cannot ask for sources)

Biomed Tech Guy - I would prefer to only be addicted to one kratom alkaloid than the whole kratom rainbow. Yea that is too much idk the exact potency in humans but 18x-23x potency of morphine in mice. Lets say really about 5x (feels about right, maybe 4?) -- that is equivalent to 6,000mg of morphine per day. Uncharted territory. Which is the real problem with these ultra potent ultra accessible RC's -- when they disappear ppl are really left in the lurch.

On the other hand thank God it exists for all the ppl whose doctors don't or underwrite scripts. Be responsible and don't ruin a good thing! (I'm not the guy to say that but oh well)

Iirc the binding affinity is ~20x that of morphine, however it has a lower efficacy in regards to receptor activation. In my personal experience they won’t directly replace morphine when dependent; they help but withdrawal still occurs.

 

[Mycophile]

No comparison IMO to the physical addiction to opioids and kratom alkaloids, not even close.
Cocaine addiction was 90+% mental, and as bad as it was, I quit CT and never had the desire to pick up again.
Opioids and kratom alkaloids OTOH make you more sensitive to the pains that got you on them to begin with, so there's even worse pain coming off, physical addiction on top of that, and the mental addiction.

What do you mean that "opioids and kratom alkaloids make you more sensitive to pain"? Are you saying even after you get off them they somehow fuck up your brain so that you are in more pain and, if so, is that permanent? It can't be.

I mean I don't take Kratom every day but I haven't really noticed this effect. The only effect I've noticed is that I workout regularly and recently I've been on Kratom when I do it so days like today when I don't take it I suddenly remember that working out hurts a little and is hard lol, but otherwise I haven't noticed increased sensitivity to pain.

Your gonna get my anxiety and OCD running lol. I don't think that's going to happen to me, and if it ever did I don't think it would be permanent.

 

[Mycophile]

No comparison IMO to the physical addiction to opioids and kratom alkaloids, not even close.
Cocaine addiction was 90+% mental, and as bad as it was, I quit CT and never had the desire to pick up again.
Opioids and kratom alkaloids OTOH make you more sensitive to the pains that got you on them to begin with, so there's even worse pain coming off, physical addiction on top of that, and the mental addiction.

Ok, I know Ai overview isn't the best source but it says that this effect is NOT permanent. I especially think it wouldn't be for me since I've just been using Kratom on and off for about 2 months.

"Opioid-induced hyperalgesia (OIH) generally begins to improve within a few days to a few weeks after stopping the medication, as the central nervous system desensitizes, with most, but not all, symptoms resolving within a month of total abstinence. While withdrawal symptoms often peak within 24–96 hours, OIH-related pain sensitivity may persist longer.
Key Findings on OIH Duration

• Improvement Timeframe: OIH can last for several days to weeks, with pain improvement typically seen after a period of abstinence to "reset" the nervous system.
• Withdrawal Interaction: The intense pain, or withdrawal-associated injury site pain (WISP), can last an average of 2 weeks (range 2–80 days).
• Long-Term Effects: Some patients, particularly those on long-term or high-dose opioids, may experience residual effects for weeks or even months.
• Reversibility: OIH is reversible; however, tapering off the medication slowly is often recommended to manage the increased pain during the transition.

For some patients, OIH can lead to a long-lasting, sometimes distressing, increase in pain sensitivity that requires significant time for the nervous system to recalibrate."

 

[sixteenthnight]

I used SR-17018 10mg once daily to get off O-DSMT ~80mg/day, 20mg/dose which I had been doing around the clock for about 2 years straight. The most notable thing I experienced was that SR-17018 seemed to have little GI effect, which caused me to have to void more often than I wanted, but I didn't experience any GI pain like opioid withdrawal caused, did contemplate taking lope at times however. I was on SR-17018 for about 3 months before I got low on it so switched to 5mg once daily for a few days to a week at most, before discontinuing completely. Experienced zero withdrawal effects. I could have definitely ceased the SR-17018 much sooner but I was taking it for maintenance and pain management at the time, albeit it was far less effective as an analgesic compared to say O-DSMT/morphine/oxycodone, but still better than nothing.. Been completely clean of opioids for a year now.

 

[MikeEhrmantraut]

I have been taking 16mg Bupe for a decade. It’s been a nightmare to try and taper down or even cold turkey. The half life is what makes it nearly impossible for me. My WDs do not set in for about 3-4 days. And there is no way I can miss a week or more of work.

Anyways.

This does sound like a miracle drug that I will most definitely look into before it eventually becomes illegal. We all know it will be big pharma pushing to make it illegal like they always do with things like this.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Congratulations!!

Gives me hope for the future and it is always AMAZING to hear someone make it out clean!

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Curing addicts would cost the government a lot of money, from lobbyists from so many areas. Too much corruption and The war on drugs is big business and Our politicians on both sides don't wanna lose that money.

The cops and feds don't want their jobs jeopardized, either.

What about the people? THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT ARE IN ON THE OPIOD WAR!

I agree 100%

OBAMA STARTED IT, THE REPUBLICANS FOLLOWED. MOST DEMOCRATS ALSO.:

What in the flying fuck how did Obama start it? I am genuinely interested

To person above who is on 16mg of suboxone -- you gotta taper down lower before you jump off to SR - #### w/e ill learn it when I need to

 

[Jnowhere]

I am a pain patient and in 2015 during his reign, he started the opiod war. It had been brewing under his administration and I should have got more Oxycodone.

My doctor even said so. I have pancreatitus along with other issues. He started all this shit. The dems had power.

Our( Michigan governor ( dem) cut the morphine equivalent a couple of years ago by half.

Guess what? Opiod tolerance builds, but the leftist lawyers know more than doctors who care about their patients( mine does) he isn't political, just a good doctor who is bound by the most retarded opiod laws this side of Utah.lol

I know anything the left says, no matter how stupid is a fact to you, but everything from those who aren't marxists is a lie.

Kind of like everything that the democrats spew.

I am a pain patient.

 

[Jnowhere]

I agree 100%


What in the flying fuck how did Obama start it? I am genuinely interested

To person above who is on 16mg of suboxone -- you gotta taper down lower before you jump off to SR - #### w/e ill learn it when I need to

 

[Jnowhere]

I agree 100%


What in the flying fuck how did Obama start it? I am genuinely interested

To person above who is on 16mg of suboxone -- you gotta taper down lower before you jump off to SR - #### w/e ill learn it when I need to

Unlike you, I used opiods for pain. Pancreatitus. Not fucking abusing the system and wrecking it for people like me!!

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I am a pain patient and in 2015 during his reign, he started the opiod war. It had been brewing under his administration and I should have got more Oxycodone.

So the war on drugs started in 2015 in your humble opinion because of Obama?

Counter theory, 2015 was around when all the dope started getting hit with fent and OD #'s became the leading cause of death 18-35 (25?) over car accidents....

The war on opiates just starting in 2015 I find wild but that is your experience...

My doctor even said so. I have pancreatitus along with other issues. He started all this shit. The dems had power.

Oh well if one doctor said so .

reminds me of "The whole portland P.D are leftwing nutjobs" --- Based on?? "Well I talked to a couple who said that" -- Alright under BLUA that holds I GUESS....lets bigger picture it though

I talked to a doctor that says it was all on billionaires and racism --- Opium for 10 Alec?? Anslinger for 100?

Wait that wasnt a doctor that was a national television series on the history channel (when it still had merit) on the history of illicit drug abuse -- who do I believe... surely leftwing academics made the show to hold pain patients down...still goin with the show

Our( Michigan governor ( dem) cut the morphine equivalent a couple of years ago by half.

Here we find common ground I hate that fuckin bitch. Personally though -- not all democrats. Bitch sent me a letter with her personal signature on it saying she would "prefer" if I stayed away from firearms -- The fuck does that mean 'prefer' am I legit or not ya fuckin subjective POS. --- Going to washington hiding behind a little auction paddle -- such a coward!!

Be real tough to vote for her even though it lines up with MORE of my interests

Guess what? Opiod tolerance builds, but the leftist lawyers know more than doctors who care about their patients( mine does) he isn't political, just a good doctor who is bound by the most retarded opiod laws this side of Utah.lol

I know anything the left says, no matter how stupid is a fact to you, but everything from those who aren't marxists is a lie.

It is you who seems to be blinded by party colors my friend. See above statement.

I am a pain patient.

We are all pain patients kid; life is painful. Sorry bout the pancreatus though FR -- get creative doctors aint your only or best outlet. Learn something from us dirty junkies lol

It is always hilarious to see a pain patient blame recreational users for there own bullshit though!! We are allies, plus you fuckers sell us all your pills to get us started ; )

"Opiate tolerance builds" -- Okay we are back on common ground! Someone print that up as no democrat has ever experienced or believes in tolerance!

 

[Jnowhere]

Not in my humble opinion, I was hospitalized for 3 weeks in 2015 and the war start ed right before that.

Too many recreational opiod abusers. like you.lol Then Biden in 2022 or the auto pen made it so I have to piss in a cup and pay for it, to get my script.

uYeah they the recreational users kept dying and the dems jumped on the idea of more opiod controll to take over our lives more.

Besides do I need to bring up opiods and you?

So the war on drugs started in 2015 in your humble opinion because of Obama?

Counter theory, 2015 was around when all the dope started getting hit with fent and OD #'s became the leading cause of death 18-35 (25?) over car accidents....

The war on opiates just starting in 2015 I find wild but that is your experience...


Oh well if one doctor said so .

reminds me of "The whole portland P.D are leftwing nutjobs" --- Based on?? "Well I talked to a couple who said that" -- Alright under BLUA that holds I GUESS....lets bigger picture it though

I talked to a doctor that says it was all on billionaires and racism --- Opium for 10 Alec?? Anslinger for 100?

Wait that wasnt a doctor that was a national television series on the history channel (when it still had merit) on the history of illicit drug abuse -- who do I believe... surely leftwing academics made the show to hold pain patients down...still goin with the show


Here we find common ground I hate that fuckin bitch. Personally though -- not all democrats. Bitch sent me a letter with her personal signature on it saying she would "prefer" if I stayed away from firearms -- The fuck does that mean 'prefer' am I legit or not ya fuckin subjective POS. --- Going to washington hiding behind a little auction paddle -- such a coward!!

Be real tough to vote for her even though it lines up with MORE of my interests

It is you who seems to be blinded by party colors my friend. See above statement.



We are all pain patients kid; life is painful. Sorry bout the pancreatus though FR -- get creative doctors aint your only or best outlet. Learn something from us dirty junkies lol

It is always hilarious to see a pain patient blame recreational users for there own bullshit though!! We are allies, plus you fuckers sell us all your pills to get us started ; )

"Opiate tolerance builds" -- Okay we are back on common ground! Someone print that up as no democrat has ever experienced or believes in tolerance!