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Phenibut - Experienced - Detailed trip report and Effects of Phenibut

I always love reading up on other people's report on Phenibut. I found the drug myself about five years ago; I was always a big fan of the GHB and was looking for something very similar I am also addicted to opiates so I was looking for something that would help overcome the addiction.

I usually take 3-4Gs per dose; 1 in the AM and one in the PM. Your tolerance builds quick for this so you must be careful with the dosing. Also, you must make sure not to use too many consecutive days because the physically addiction happens quick, trust me.

Def a fun drug to play with but be careful. I've seen some dose as small as 2Gs and end up nodding/passing out. That when I first started after so many hours Id start to feel tired myself and slowly my eyes would close. Even nowadays after a days use of Phenibut I feel much better when sleeping.

One last thing, it definitely helps overcome opiate withdrawal. I have a 1 to 2 g a day heroin problem and the days I cannot afford to score I use Phenibut and helps with the withdrawal for sure. Actually puts some life back into me and makes me want to get up and live again.

I suggest that you always use the powder form; it is much better that way. I have used the pills many times and it worked but not nearly as good as the powder.

Have fun, people.
How would you compare phenibut for opiate withdrawl VS gabapentin or Lyrica? Sorry I know this is an old thread but currently kicking a dope habit as well as a gram a day of 7oh and the only comfort meds I got are kava... Meh phenibut... Which I've only done so a few times once during withdrawl but that time in my life was shit so can't compare it and my usual regular kratom which I've been on and off dependant on for years so Its not gonna do much.
 
How would you compare phenibut for opiate withdrawl VS gabapentin or Lyrica? Sorry I know this is an old thread but currently kicking a dope habit as well as a gram a day of 7oh and the only comfort meds I got are kava... Meh phenibut... Which I've only done so a few times once during withdrawl but that time in my life was shit so can't compare it and my usual regular kratom which I've been on and off dependant on for years so Its not gonna do much.
Lyrica is the best. Phenibut is better than nothing. Makes the squirts worth so some loperamide might be useful. Dose the lope LOW if your taking phenibut too.

Edit - worse not worth
 
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Lyrica is the best. Phenibut is better than nothing. Makes the squirts worth so some loperamide might be useful. Dose the lope LOW if your taking phenibut too.

Edit - worse not worth
No access to anything else this go around besides stims but I'm not a fan but they do help my withdrawals a lot tbh. I took like 14mg of lope this morning nothing crazy, didn't help actually and then I dosed a gram of pheni it dud nothing 3 hours later I dosed another g then two hours later just now took another gram and a half and if that does nothing I guess I'll just go fuck myself. I got poppy tea but trying to avoid it and idek how strong it is
 
Is the goal to detox or just get well?

Poppy tea absolutely will fix your up but a massive step backwards if sobriety is end
No access to anything else this go around besides stims but I'm not a fan but they do help my withdrawals a lot tbh. I took like 14mg of lope this morning nothing crazy, didn't help actually and then I dosed a gram of pheni it dud nothing 3 hours later I dosed another g then two hours later just now took another gram and a half and if that does nothing I guess I'll just go fuck myself. I got poppy tea but trying to avoid it and idek how strong it is
 
Is the goal to detox or just get well?

Poppy tea absolutely will fix your up but a massive step backwards if sobriety is end
Detox and no poppy tea will do fuck all. 7oh is strong even though it's only a partial agonist a low dose habit maybe but I was doing a gram if not more a day of pure 7oh. Bupe doesn't even touch the wd, weird I know.
 
That is weird. Used kratom for years. Never tried 7oh though.

If pod tea isn't doing anything then you've either got shitty pods or a much more complex problem there. Pods should help with most traditional opiates.

Good luck in finding a way through.

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How would you compare phenibut for opiate withdrawl VS gabapentin or Lyrica?
in my experience there really is no comparison. i mean phenibut may help sleep a tiny bit but the dose ration of phenibut > gabapentin is like 500mg to 100mg (anecdotal not science or case studies). phenibut > lyrica? omg probably 1g per 100mg pregabalin (lyrica). to take enough phenibut to stave off wds would be considerable and imo organ damaging. they may be in the same drug class but there are differences some minor some major. i wouldnt recommend it and strongly advise against it.

any way you can taper the 7oh?
 
in my experience there really is no comparison. i mean phenibut may help sleep a tiny bit but the dose ration of phenibut > gabapentin is like 500mg to 100mg (anecdotal not science or case studies). phenibut > lyrica? omg probably 1g per 100mg pregabalin (lyrica). to take enough phenibut to stave off wds would be considerable and imo organ damaging. they may be in the same drug class but there are differences some minor some major. i wouldnt recommend it and strongly advise against it.

any way you can taper the 7oh?
I took four grams with zero tolerance got zero effect besides my legs giving out without ever feeling drunk and I got a slight headache followed by a week of intense anxiety I typically don't get too Abad during wds so ya ill leave phenibut out of the wd kit. I had one good experience with phenibut during wds and that was from a different brand but it worked pretty good. I don't understand why this did absolutely nothing aside from some side effects but no mental change or relaxation
 
is this possible or have you been through the worst of it...?
It's not possible for me, the half life of the drug is just too short to reasonably taper with all my responsibilities. I get thrown into withdrawal an hour after my dose like full blown withdrawal, never had a drug do that. I'm still off the shit though been a few weeks and hopefully I don't get bored and go back to It, I don't think it should be illegal but it needs to stop being sold brick and morter by vape shops selling to kids.
 
is this possible or have you been through the worst of it...?
Although PH, If I do get back on 7 again hopefully not but I'm an addict but if I do I'm going to try mgm15 which is basically 7oh just stronger and lasts a lot longer so when I'd eventually come off the 7oh I'd try using mgm to taper and see how that goes and I'll be sure to report back. Discipline is not the issue here, well I guess a bit but i can taper fine with all drugs and typically stop whenever I want to aside from H but 7??? Man is wickedly deceptive like ya sure it's strong for a partial agonist but the effects while on the drug in no way match the effects coming off of said drug.
 
^Benim deneyimime göre tamamen benzersiz bir vücut gevşemesi sağlıyor (gerçi baklofen de benzer olabilir diye tahmin ediyorum? Daha az derecede GHB de olabilir? Benim için bilinmeyen bir alan...); benzodiazepinlere hiç de *o kadar* benzemiyor, ancak tam tersine çok da uzak değil.

Birkaç yıl önce denedim -> iyi bir şey. Özellikle saatler süren etki başlangıcı dikkat çekici. Ayrıca fenibutun kolaylaştırdığı uyku da gerçekten harika! Şimdiye kadar denediğim en iyi uyku ilacı; sadece bu işlevi en etkili şekilde yerine getirmekle kalmıyor, aynı zamanda son derece doğal bir şekilde yapıyor. En mükemmel, derin, 'doğal' uyku. Bu anlamda belki de opiyatlar ve benzodiazepinler arasındaki farkın özü bu -> ikisinin de (uyku açısından) avantajları, hiçbirinin dezavantajı yok.

Dopaminin aşağı yönlü etkileriyle ilgili görüşe katılıyorum, ancak fenibutun zihin üzerindeki etkisinin herhangi bir sistemdeki dopamin akışıyla tetiklenmediğini, mekanizmanın DA reseptörlerinde dolaylı veya allosterik bir modülasyon türü olduğunu tahmin ediyorum. Muhtemelen saçmalıyorum, ancak kesinlikle dopaminerjik bir his veriyor, yine de amfetaminler, DAT inhibitörleri ve selegilin gibi maddelerden farklı bir yanı var.

Tolerans çok hızlı gelişiyor. Oldukça bağımlılık yapıcı. Doz aşımı da oldukça kolay, bu da motor fonksiyonlarda bozulmaya, bulanık görmeye, mide bulantısına ve son derece garip düşünce trenlerinin sağa sola raydan çıkmasına neden oluyor - tıpkı 2c-d/LSD/ritalin'in küçük bir dozunu almışken sarhoş olmak gibi, ancak bu genel bir benzetme.

Ve son iki kuruşluk tavsiyem -> *BURUNDAN ÇEKMEYE ÇALIŞMAYIN*

İnfüzyon yoluyla uygulanan etken madde, ağız yoluyla alınan etken maddenin 5-10 katı etkiye sahiptir (ancak etkisinin başlaması yine de iki saatten fazla sürer).

Ah, bir de yanma hissi inanılmaz derecede berbat. O kadar berbat ki, 2c-b (veya aMT) gibi sert bir çizgi çekmek nispeten daha kolay geliyor.

Uyuşturucu etkisinden (k-hole) çok uzak değilim, bu yüzden yukarıdakiler anlamsız olabilir.

Harika rapor, OP!

~Yoshi
Feniletilamin fenilpiracetam fenibut alpha gpc yığınından umutluyum
 
How would you compare phenibut for opiate withdrawl VS gabapentin or Lyrica? Sorry I know this is an old thread but currently kicking a dope habit as well as a gram a day of 7oh and the only comfort meds I got are kava... Meh phenibut... Which I've only done so a few times once during withdrawl but that time in my life was shit so can't compare it and my usual regular kratom which I've been on and off dependant on for years so Its not gonna do much.
Look into SR-17018.
 
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