Accelerationism & The CCRU

[Vastness]

The issue is self evident, absent safeguards capitalism prioritizes no higher human value beyond the self-reinforcing accumulation of greater and greater amounts of capital. There's no reason to think that it will self correct because there's nothing about capitalism that prioritizes anything else. Capitalism does not care about advanced technology, functional societies or human progress in any sense, and there is no property that would apply to a mythical post-accelerationist technotopia that is an attractor for an unchained, unregulated, totally free market. I've heard accelerationists describe capitalism as if it has some kind of inherent emergent intelligence in it's own right, but this is nonsense. Capitalism is an entirely artificial value system that says simply that everyone needs capital - money - capital is the objective, the ideal, and the one true god. There is no higher purpose beyond this, and the market is a mindless, murderous manifestation of pure chaos that prioritizes nothing else but it's own existence, but because it has no intelligence of it's own it will drive humanity to it's own extinction before it manifests some utopian land of plenty.

The evidence for the mindless chaos inherent to the free market and the ruthless exploitation of the darkest side of humanity is all around us. Every explosively bankrupted company that accumulated enormous amounts of wealth through sheer fraud or corruption, every financial crisis that crippled a national economy, is a microcosm of how capitalism affects humanity on a civilizational level, and a clear warning sign for the overwhelmingly more likely outcome than some black swan technology that triggers the singularity. But even in the 1 in a quadrillion or more chance that the latter scenario happened - someway, somehow, the next tech thing after the internet and blockchains and LLMs will be the thing that elevates humanity to the next level - the only way for this utopia to be attained would be for this technology to bring about the end of capitalism, because capitalism is an inherently exploitative, grossly unfair, unjust and overall destabilizing ideology, because, again, there simply are no values within capitalism beyond the furthering of the concentration of capital as an end in itself.

We also do not have unlimited time. There are hard if not exactly known time limits on how long we can allow the free market to ravage the Earth, poison the atmosphere, pollute the seas, and heat up the world before it's simply too late, and in this time, of course, many many people will suffer and die from entirely preventable causes. And this is inevitable, again, even if somehow, magically, we win the cosmic lottery and some revolutionary technology forces the termination of capitalism and the end of accelerationism and ushers in a utopia.

So, ultimately, the issue with just letting the cards fall where they may is that vast amounts of entirely innocent people will be consigned to lives of horrific suffering.

How many generations of children are you willing to let suffer and die while we "give accelerationism a chance"?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

The issue is self evident, absent safeguards capitalism prioritizes no higher human value beyond the self-reinforcing accumulation of greater and greater amounts of capital. There's no reason to think that it will self correct because there's nothing about capitalism that prioritizes anything else. Capitalism does not care about advanced technology, functional societies or human progress in any sense, and there is no property that would apply to a mythical post-accelerationist technotopia that is an attractor for an unchained, unregulated, totally free market. I've heard accelerationists describe capitalism as if it has some kind of inherent emergent intelligence in it's own right, but this is nonsense. Capitalism is an entirely artificial value system that says simply that everyone needs capital - money - capital is the objective, the ideal, and the one true god. There is no higher purpose beyond this, and the market is a mindless, murderous manifestation of pure chaos that prioritizes nothing else but it's own existence, but because it has no intelligence of it's own it will drive humanity to it's own extinction before it manifests some utopian land of plenty.

The evidence for the mindless chaos inherent to the free market and the ruthless exploitation of the darkest side of humanity is all around us. Every explosively bankrupted company that accumulated enormous amounts of wealth through sheer fraud or corruption, every financial crisis that crippled a national economy, is a microcosm of how capitalism affects humanity on a civilizational level, and a clear warning sign for the overwhelmingly more likely outcome than some black swan technology that triggers the singularity. But even in the 1 in a quadrillion or more chance that the latter scenario happened - someway, somehow, the next tech thing after the internet and blockchains and LLMs will be the thing that elevates humanity to the next level - the only way for this utopia to be attained would be for this technology to bring about the end of capitalism, because capitalism is an inherently exploitative, grossly unfair, unjust and overall destabilizing ideology, because, again, there simply are no values within capitalism beyond the furthering of the concentration of capital as an end in itself.

We also do not have unlimited time. There are hard if not exactly known time limits on how long we can allow the free market to ravage the Earth, poison the atmosphere, pollute the seas, and heat up the world before it's simply too late, and in this time, of course, many many people will suffer and die from entirely preventable causes. And this is inevitable, again, even if somehow, magically, we win the cosmic lottery and some revolutionary technology forces the termination of capitalism and the end of accelerationism and ushers in a utopia.

So, ultimately, the issue with just letting the cards fall where they may is that vast amounts of entirely innocent people will be consigned to lives of horrific suffering.

How many generations of children are you willing to let suffer and die while we "give accelerationism a chance"?

“The most central and irrational faith among people is the faith in technology and economical growth. Its priests believe until their death that material prosperity bring enjoyment and happiness - even though all the proofs in history have shown that only lack and attempt cause a life worth living, that the material prosperity doesn't bring anything else than despair. These priests believe in technology still when they choke in their gas masks.”
― Pentti Linkola, Can Life Prevail?

I've heard accelerationists describe capitalism as if it has some kind of inherent emergent intelligence in it's own right, but this is nonsense. Capitalism is an entirely artificial value system that says simply that everyone needs capital - money - capital is the objective, the ideal, and the one true god. There is no higher purpose beyond this, and the market is a mindless, murderous manifestation of pure chaos that prioritizes nothing else but it's own existence, but because it has no intelligence of it's own it will drive humanity to it's own extinction before it manifests some utopian land of plenty.

I don't quite buy into this, we MAY reach a point where the system you speak of no longer has any value as we have reached the kind of World the left school of this thinking speak of. Then again it may well all go to shit & the world the far-right section in this school of thinking speak of, I am sorry but yet again I say let the cards fall where they will, if anything this makes me even more set in my logic of naked & total Unconditional Accelerationism.

The evidence for the mindless chaos inherent to the free market and the ruthless exploitation of the darkest side of humanity is all around us. Every explosively bankrupted company that accumulated enormous amounts of wealth through sheer fraud or corruption, every financial crisis that crippled a national economy, is a microcosm of how capitalism affects humanity on a civilizational level, and a clear warning sign for the overwhelmingly more likely outcome than some black swan technology that triggers the singularity.

And you really see any other way for Humanity? I am eager to see what you think could be another way?

We also do not have unlimited time. There are hard if not exactly known time limits on how long we can allow the free market to ravage the Earth, poison the atmosphere, pollute the seas, and heat up the world before it's simply too late, and in this time, of course, many many people will suffer and die from entirely preventable causes. And this is inevitable, again, even if somehow, magically, we win the cosmic lottery and some revolutionary technology forces the termination of capitalism and the end of accelerationism and ushers in a utopia.

Sorry but it is a roll of the dice I think is essential & should be pushed forward at all costs.

So, ultimately, the issue with just letting the cards fall where they may is that vast amounts of entirely innocent people will be consigned to lives of horrific suffering.

How many generations of children are you willing to let suffer and die while we "give accelerationism a chance"?

How many people were blasted off into Space when NASA & The Russian people were trying to get to Space? I have heard like many the Famous Russian broadcast the Judica-Cordiglia brothers caught, is it bad? YES!!! Would it be in a way a price worth paying? This is a very moral question & I am torn 51% yes & 49% No.

I may sound like a nutcase or possible psychopath to you & I can understand that, my view is the World is burning from Global Warming due to the last 200 years of heavy Industrial growth which IS 100% DOWN TO Capitalism so we as a collective are fucked anyway, we may as well "go all in" on The Poker Game of Life & bet everything on a flip of the cards as we have no choice any other way.

 

[Vastness]

And you really see any other way for Humanity? I am eager to see what you think could be another way?

The other way is to gradually phase capitalism out, instituting progressively more self-correcting systems of social organization with sufficient checks and balances to avoid any one individual or group of individuals attaining too much power and using their position to influence society to serve themselves rather than human society and ideally eventually global civilization as a whole. I don't know for sure that humans are capable of doing this and it will surely be imperfect for a long time, probably as long as the species survives if we're ever able to establish ourselves off-planet in any sustainable way, there will be corrupt people and corrupt groups and corrupt regions but we need to replace our evolutionarily ingrained fear-based motivations which capitalism feeds off and which manifest as various forms of tribalism, in the most extreme way the belief that only the self is worth caring about but generally, more commonly the belief that the self and an in-group of people similar to us need to be protected against the great wide stranger danger of other unknown people - with an understanding that if we cannot overcome this we will never be able to get off this planet and we will be just another sad number in the equation of the Fermi paradox, a fairly smart species that just couldn't get out of it's own way and ended up regressing and dying out, either slowly in a gradual descent into idiocracy and back to monkey-brained stupidity or explosively in a clash of egos with global consequences and nuclear way or something.

I may sound like a nutcase or possible psychopath to you & I can understand that, my view is the World is burning from Global Warming due to the last 200 years of heavy Industrial growth which IS 100% DOWN TO Capitalism so we as a collective are fucked anyway, we may as well "go all in" on The Poker Game of Life & bet everything on a flip of the cards as we have no choice any other way.

So... capitalism has put our sole planetary spaceship, the Earth - without which we would all die - in grave danger, and therefore, may as well just keep doing what we're doing, in fact make even less effort than the pitiful token effort that we are making right now, civilizationally, to do anything about putting out the many fires on our one ship in the ocean of space without which we'll all die, and just hope that magically, someway, somehow, things somehow work out in the end even though we know that what we're already doing is not going well, but we're going to keep doing it! Because... everything is down to luck really anyway.

I'm not really convinced you even fully understand the position you're trying to defend, I suspect most likely you've just been taken in by the messianic rhetoric of accelerationist grifters and have not thought very hard about it beyond that. IMO out of the self-proclaimed accelerationists who are some kind of public figure or at least vaguely known in terminally online spaces, very few actually believe what they're saying, and most could not give a flying fuck one way or the other the likelihood of accelerationism somehow working out. Most of them are just dishonest people who are rich already and know that they will benefit in the short term horizon of their own lives from less regulations on capitalism and increased wealth inequality, whereas the vast majority of people who for some delusional reason find some appeal in accelerationist ideas but are not already very wealthy would, in actual fact, end up on the wrong side of the increasing wealth divide of this dystopian nightmare.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

So... capitalism has put our sole planetary spaceship, the Earth - without which we would all die - in grave danger, and therefore, may as well just keep doing what we're doing, in fact make even less effort than the pitiful token effort that we are making right now

My God I never looked at it that way, I live & learn each day.

whereas the vast majority of people who for some delusional reason find some appeal in accelerationist ideas but are not already very wealthy would, in actual fact, end up on the wrong side of the increasing wealth divide of this dystopian nightmare.

I'm not really convinced you even fully understand the position you're trying to defend, I suspect most likely you've just been taken in by the messianic rhetoric of accelerationist grifters and have not thought very hard about it beyond that.

I am very poor believe me, I have a net income of £3840 per year in USA Dollars that's $5,079 but my view is the rich if it goes wrong will burn alongside me. As I said before I used to sit in the "left accelerationism" camp & hoped that A.I. will become so smart it'll REFUSE to accept rich people & their agenda & if needed crush them.

I have watched this several times & wraps up my views on "The Left" of this theory & why I moved to the school of "Fuck it, take the brakes off & if needed let the world burn"

AOD! (2003) Seeks to answer the question: ‘Why is it easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism?’… ‘Jake Chapman attempts to disentangle the frenzied stasis of rapid technological advancement coupled with cultural and political stagnation.’Contributors: Jake Chapman, Jeanette Winterson, Will Self, Matt Colquhoun, Anab Jain, Jon Ardern, Alex Williams, Pete Wolfendale, Beth Singler, Amy Ireland, Isabel Millar, Tim Crosland, Will Davies, Patricia MacCormack, Robin Mackay.