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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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ControlDenied said:
I did recover completely from Invega. Are you being forced to take your meds?

I feel alright on my meds, but I'm switching from olanzapine to Latuda, because of the weight gain. I hope i lose the weight! :S
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That’s great to hear.
I’m off invega now over two months approaching three in a few weeks.
I still have akathisia from invega and the benztropine doesn’t work very well for it.

I take olanzapine in the evening, I find it a wonder drug and lets me sleep. I gotta watch what I eat on it though. Did you find olanzapine to be decent, except for your weight gain? It doesn’t seem to cause the same issues as invega.
 
ControlDenied said:
I did recover completely from Invega. Are you being forced to take your meds?

I feel alright on my meds, but I'm switching from olanzapine to Latuda, because of the weight gain. I hope i lose the weight! :S
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Yeah olanzapine munchies are hell. I went from 100 kg to 125 in no-time. If you wanna efficiently lose weight I can recommend either a ketogenic diet or a Mediterranean diet. Those are both among the most effective diets and they both have various health benefits. I can recommend /r/keto (especially the side bar) but if that's too radical for you maybe the MD is for you.
 
hey all I am a new user who took invega sustenna nearly a month ago ( two loading doses) and ever since I have been feeling awful, all I want to do is sleep but even that gets boring and I feel a sense of doom about my future, I am worried it’s going to take me a long time to recover

I regret taking this medication every single day, I wish I warned about how severe the side effects will be, everyone around is comfortable while my mind and body feels hellish, this is easily the worst experience of my life

I have also been having disturbing dreams and feeling painful nostalgia at the same time, I hate this

has anyone here recovered from 150mg and 100mg dosage and how long did it take?
 
Takes at least 9 months to recover from paliperidone, high dose or depot shot. It's mostly a feeling of anhedonia people describe, and paliperidone has one of the highest profiles for that side effect of antipsychotics. This is for people coming off, some of you still have to find your way, and would be better off for the time being on it. As hard as it might feel to summon up the motivation you must keep some, exercise is one of the only few ways to naturally boost dopamine and other important, feel good, chemicals. To make it routine does help. Some people have few problems coming off invegga or other heavy AP's, but those that do tend to get stuck in the routine of anhedonia despite having made some recovery progress. Those systems have to be tested, with things that might bring joy. But even for some, joy cannot be found because life circumstances prevent it, (homelessness, poverty, grief). Even small goals help drive some feeling of change doing something, and then accomplishing them, things within reach, and a long term one for good measure.

9 months isn't a exact number, but in my experience it takes about that long for brain chemistry to change or restore from post med heavy anhedonia. But environment and mental/physical health also play a part to the recovery time frame.
 
— if you're lucky (or, more accurately, if you have a biologically resilient system), the brain downregulates over time; that is, it:

reduces the number of excess D₂ receptors,

reduces the oversensitive ones to a "normal" signal level,

and establishes a setting closer to homeostasis (balance).

But if the brain's capacity for readjustment (neuroplasticity) is low during this process—for example, if there's chronic stress, poor sleep, inactivity, nutritional deficiencies, or habits that consistently disrupt dopamine balance—then this downregulation may not occur or may take a very long time.

So, it's not just about "luck"; it's also about the brain's ability to regenerate.

This is directly affected by:

BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) levels,

mitochondrial health,

and the functioning of the dopamine-glutamate networks.

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This motherfucking poison disrupts the entire brain's workings network, so I can't imagine anyone who can sleep well without chronic stress, without cortisol, and whose glutamate and GABA systems remain intact. It plunges the brain and body into such a pit that it's impossible to get out of, or even return from.
 
paranoid android said:
Things slowly came back fr me like that as well. Lifting weights has really helped me as well. started lifting when the symptoms from the invega and abilify went away.



Man out of every drug i have tried i regret cigs the most. They are by far the most addictive drug out there yet you can buy them at any store. As someone who has been through fentanyl withdrawal i would rather fent wd over nicotine wd. I smoke 2 packs a day and et terrible wd symptoms if i stop. I am afraid of getting emphysema or COPD or some shit. Look at what happened with David Lynch earlier the year

I was even thinking about trying ibogaine to quit cigs. But apparently theres a risk that you can de f you take them with opiates so thats me out i guess
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I’d have to agree with @paranoid android on this one. Nicotine addiction is fucked. I decided that I want to quit cigarettes 3 years ago and it was only this year when I was cooked on invega that I really pushed myself to quit cigs though I was still using nicotine through vapes, nearly a month off the vapes now and been using patches. My dad died age 57 because of COPD so that’s what made me really want to quit and I’m still not quite there but have atleast narrowed it down to patches. Such a fucked addiction
 
fuqrisperdal said:
— if you're lucky (or, more accurately, if you have a biologically resilient system), the brain downregulates over time; that is, it:

reduces the number of excess D₂ receptors,

reduces the oversensitive ones to a "normal" signal level,

and establishes a setting closer to homeostasis (balance).

But if the brain's capacity for readjustment (neuroplasticity) is low during this process—for example, if there's chronic stress, poor sleep, inactivity, nutritional deficiencies, or habits that consistently disrupt dopamine balance—then this downregulation may not occur or may take a very long time.

So, it's not just about "luck"; it's also about the brain's ability to regenerate.

This is directly affected by:

BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) levels,

mitochondrial health,

and the functioning of the dopamine-glutamate networks.

---
This motherfucking poison disrupts the entire brain's workings network, so I can't imagine anyone who can sleep well without chronic stress, without cortisol, and whose glutamate and GABA systems remain intact. It plunges the brain and body into such a pit that it's impossible to get out of, or even return from.
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is taking magnesium and b12 supplements enough alongside going on walks?
 
demileigh said:
I’d have to agree with @paranoid android on this one. Nicotine addiction is fucked. I decided that I want to quit cigarettes 3 years ago and it was only this year when I was cooked on invega that I really pushed myself to quit cigs though I was still using nicotine through vapes, nearly a month off the vapes now and been using patches. My dad died age 57 because of COPD so that’s what made me really want to quit and I’m still not quite there but have atleast narrowed it down to patches. Such a fucked addiction
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Thats fantastic that your down to patches thats qut in my eyes. I wish patches or even a vape helped me but they dont
 
twinpeaks123 said:
hey all I am a new user who took invega sustenna nearly a month ago ( two loading doses) and ever since I have been feeling awful, all I want to do is sleep but even that gets boring and I feel a sense of doom about my future, I am worried it’s going to take me a long time to recover

I regret taking this medication every single day, I wish I warned about how severe the side effects will be, everyone around is comfortable while my mind and body feels hellish, this is easily the worst experience of my life

I have also been having disturbing dreams and feeling painful nostalgia at the same time, I hate this

has anyone here recovered from 150mg and 100mg dosage and how long did it take?
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Hey. First and foremost I’m sorry you were injected with invega, as this will likely be the hardest trial you will deal with. I’m approaching three months and I haven’t noticed any improvements, but this is expected and the duration of recovering from this medication tends to look anywhere between 6-12 months. You may get lucky and notice improvements eariler, but for the most part it’s a long process. In the meantime, watch your diet and take supplements because you will gain weight. Exercise is self explanatory and a necessity. You are embarking on a voyage which is uncertain and you must remain vigilant. Invega has a long half life and there is no escaping this fact, as far as I’m concerned. The majority of individuals who have been injected with invega (including myself) will most likely experience anhedonia and if you’re one of the extremely unlucky ones you will also get akathisia (I have this also)

From my subjective experience—you will most likely not find any real alleviation from the brutal side effects of invega within a few months. It will take a long time before you get any signs of recovery.

Dont lose hope though, there are many people who have recovered.

@Trueart2 has made a documentary showing this.

@Invegatorture recovered in 9 months.

@dont.jump Made a substantial recovery in 8 months.

It’s going to be a hard journey, but we are in it together.
 
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lukeflowz said:
Hey. First and foremost I’m sorry you were injected with invega, as this will likely be the hardest trial you will deal with. I’m approaching three months and I haven’t noticed any improvements, but this is expected and the duration of recovering from this medication tends to look anywhere between 6-12 months. You may get lucky and notice improvements eariler, but for the most part it’s a long process. In the meantime, watch your diet and take supplements because you will gain weight. Exercise is self explanatory and a necessity. You are embarking on a voyage which is uncertain and you must remain vigilant. Invega has a long half life and there is no escaping this fact, as far as I’m concerned. The majority of individuals who have been injected with invega (including myself) will most likely experience anhedonia and if you’re one of the extremely unlucky ones you will also get akathisia (I have this also)

From my subjective experience—you will most likely not find any real alleviation from the brutal side effects of invega within a few months. It will take a long time before you get any signs of recovery.

Dont lose hope though, there are many people who have recovered.

@Trueart2 has made a documentary showing this.

@Invegatorture recovered in 9 months.

@dont.jump Made a substantial recovery in 8 months.

It’s going to be a hard journey, but we are in it together.
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I don’t think I will gain weight as my sense of taste and appetite has changed, I do have akathisa though
 
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twinpeaks123 said:
I don’t think I will gain weight as my sense of taste and appetite has changed, I do have akathisa though
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apparently akathisia clears up around 3.5 to 4 months. I’m not sure though as I still have also. We have to hold on tight and hope it goes.
 
twinpeaks123 said:
hey all I am a new user who took invega sustenna nearly a month ago ( two loading doses) and ever since I have been feeling awful, all I want to do is sleep but even that gets boring and I feel a sense of doom about my future, I am worried it’s going to take me a long time to recover

I regret taking this medication every single day, I wish I warned about how severe the side effects will be, everyone around is comfortable while my mind and body feels hellish, this is easily the worst experience of my life

I have also been having disturbing dreams and feeling painful nostalgia at the same time, I hate this

has anyone here recovered from 150mg and 100mg dosage and how long did it take?
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I am sorry you are going through this. Based on what i have seen, most people with close to your dosage start to feel recovery by month 5 to 8 and many recover completely in 12 months. I hope you get through this quickly. Keep moving and drink a lot of water as invega leaves the body through urine or sweat. If you have access to a sauna, it might help sweat it out faster. Take it one day at a time. We are all in this together.
 
anonymoususer777 said:
I am sorry you are going through this. Based on what i have seen, most people with close to your dosage start to feel recovery by month 5 to 8 and many recover completely in 12 months. I hope you get through this quickly. Keep moving and drink a lot of water as invega leaves the body through urine or sweat. If you have access to a sauna, it might help sweat it out faster. Take it one day at a time. We are all in this together.
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have you felt any improvement since your last dose? and I talked to one person who had got the injection like one and they still haven’t recovered 7 years later
 
paranoid android said:
Thats fantastic that your down to patches thats qut in my eyes. I wish patches or even a vape helped me but they dont
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Years ago when I tried patches they did absolutely nothing for me either but had luck this time around. Nicotine has to be the most addictive of all, shocking how hard it is to quit. Hoping I don’t get bad wd when I stop patches 🤞
 
demileigh said:
Years ago when I tried patches they did absolutely nothing for me either but had luck this time around. Nicotine has to be the most addictive of all, shocking how hard it is to quit. Hoping I don’t get bad wd when I stop patches 🤞
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I dont know how well they would work with me i smoke like a pack and a half or 2 packs a day lol. I may have to try them again though
 
lukeflowz said:
Yes didn’t work at all, same with benztropine. Benztropine stopped the pacing but I still have an inner restlessness which is just as bad.
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what benzos? proplandol doesn’t work for me either, I am worried I am going have to deal with restlessness and pacing for many more months
 
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