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20 mg of 7OH and I was wasted out of my mind!!!

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Psynaught

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I was very new to opioids 2-3 years ago. I have taken and used (had a period in my youth where I abused) drugs and alcohol, but until recently have never really been high on opioids. I don't drink anymore, and my recreational drug use is very moderate. I have had many surgeries and have taken what's prescribed as prescribed but never really gotten high. However I have had many occasions where doctors should have given me pain meds (I've written about these occasions several times) so I have taken to hoarding pain medications. I have a stash of Oxy, fentynal, and Tramadol. I do take 5 grams of Kratom (never more) 5-6 days a week but have been taking that for several years now.

I never take more and never really get high, I just feel good and get some relief from some moderate chronic pain I suffer from. Kratom is like coffee for me. It was not until a year or so ago that I actually took enough Oxy (2 30 mg caps, so 60 mgs) and then another 1 an hour later. 90 mgs of Oxy got me really high and I must admit, it was a great high. I understand why people get addicted to Oxy. But since then thanks to all the wisdom I have gathered from this forum, I rarely take the Oxy. I might get high on Oxy once or twice a month, But I an a regular Kratom user, so that gives me some tolerance.

I saw a sale pop up on Face Book for some Ultra 7 Seven Double stacks so I bought some. These are 80 mg tabs and had rave reviews over on Reddit. A week or two ago I tried some 7OH. I took 13 mgs and then 45 minutes later took another 13 mgs. This was Opia which was third party tested and well reviewed. I felt very good, mood definitely enhanced, but did not really get high. I posted a thread about this experience here:
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Thread '7OH tolerance'

I take 5 grams of Kratom 5-6 days a week. Rarely...maybe once every 10-12 days or so I will get high on real opioids.

I purchased some 7OH and took 40 mgs last night. One and a half Opia which were third party tested at 26 mgs per pill. I spaced half a tab every 45 minutes.

I felt good, but not really high. Is that a normal reaction or do I have a high tolerance?

Thanks!

Wanting to be careful, I took only a quarter of the 80 mg pill and figured if that went well I would take another quarter
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OMFG it knocked me on my ass!!! I was so high that I came close to using some Narcan I bought when I started this whole experimenting with opioids thing. Holy snit! there was a 30 minute period where I was barely able to walk to the kitchen to get some water. I think that I was even nodding off, more than 40 minutes passed in a complete haze. WOW!

It has been an hour and 25 minutes now as I write this and I am just returning to Earth. I hate to say this, but I can understand why government wants to regulate this stuff. I don't know what would have happened to me if I had taken a whole tablet. And keep in mind I have a little bit of a Kratom tolerance from 5 grams a day.

I just thought I would share tis experience that has totally blown my mind. People please be careful with this stuff. Even if you only take it once or twice a week. It is extremely powerful.
 
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7-OH is best used as the first "opioid" dosage of the day or the first opioid taken to get off empty. After that during the day as a 2nd dose etc., it really does not hit on much for me.

Too bad 7-OH is not used in pain management for break-through pain or taken every 2-3 days per week max.

Again producing it in IR, ER, or hydrid IR/ER constructions would be very useful in pain management.
 
Them Witches said:
7-OH is best used as the first "opioid" dosage of the day or the first opioid taken to get off empty. After that during the day as a 2nd dose etc., it really does not hit on much for me.

Too bad 7-OH is not used in pain management for break-through pain or taken every 2-3 days per week max.

Again producing it in IR, ER, or hydrid IR/ER constructions would be very useful in pain management.
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I am not going to take it for at least a few more days.
 
7oh does not cause respiratory depression, taking too much would not have put you ay risk of a deadly OD that would require narcan. 7Oh and Kratom simply don’t have a risk of OD like traditional opioids. Regardless risk of addiction with 7oh is high.

7oh breaks through my 2mg sub dose no problem. I take 7oh 6 hours after subs and feel great. I too started on 10-20mg, I am now up to 50-100mg a day when I do take them. I limit myself to 2-3 times a week but I know without my subs I would undoubtedly be a daily user. Good luck homie, this is a much safer alternative to street dope and pills but you have to be smart, it can rob you of all your savings if you are not careful… as well as all the other risks associated with opioid addiction, aside from OD.
 
MissH2017 said:
7oh does not cause respiratory depression, taking too much would not have put you ay risk of a deadly OD that would require narcan. 7Oh and Kratom simply don’t have a risk of OD like traditional opioids. Regardless risk of addiction with 7oh is high.

7oh breaks through my 2mg sub dose no problem. I take 7oh 6 hours after subs and feel great. I too started on 10-20mg, I am now up to 50-100mg a day when I do take them. I limit myself to 2-3 times a week but I know without my subs I would undoubtedly be a daily user. Good luck homie, this is a much safer alternative to street dope and pills but you have to be smart, it can rob you of all your savings if you are not careful… as well as all the other risks associated with opioid addiction, aside from OD.
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Oh yeah. It is going to be at least a few more days...maybe this weekend (today is Monday) before I get high like that again. Like I said, it hit me harder than 60 mgs of Oxy. Oxy is still my favorite buzz and it lasts longer.
 
helpingout said:
You can od on 7oh. I’ve done it like 2 or 3 times. Pissed brown and had edema of the leg. Felt like dog shit for months. Other times I slept for two days. Woke up completely depleted. Family thought I was dead. 7 oh and kratom both have overdose potential. Edit your comment you’re increasing the harm.
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I most certainly not recommending to anyone that they abuse 7OH. I was doing the opposite.
 
MissH2017 said:
7oh does not cause respiratory depression, taking too much would not have put you ay risk of a deadly OD that would require narcan. 7Oh and Kratom simply don’t have a risk of OD like traditional opioids. Regardless risk of addiction with 7oh is high.

7oh breaks through my 2mg sub dose no problem. I take 7oh 6 hours after subs and feel great. I too started on 10-20mg, I am now up to 50-100mg a day when I do take them. I limit myself to 2-3 times a week but I know without my subs I would undoubtedly be a daily user. Good luck homie, this is a much safer alternative to street dope and pills but you have to be smart, it can rob you of all your savings if you are not careful… as well as all the other risks associated with opioid addiction, aside from OD.
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You can od on 7oh. I’ve done it like 2 or 3 times. Pissed brown and had edema of the leg. Felt like dog shit for months. Other times I slept for two days. Woke up completely depleted. Family thought I was dead. 7 oh and kratom both have overdose potential. Edit your comment you’re increasing the harm.
 
helpingout said:
Sorry forgot to add the quotes. I wasn’t referring to your comment.
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Yeah. For about a 20 minute period I was getting concerned. And that was just from 20 mgs. In the meantime I am just going back to my 5 gram Kratom routine.
 
Them Witches said:
7-OH is best used as the first "opioid" dosage of the day or the first opioid taken to get off empty. After that during the day as a 2nd dose etc., it really does not hit on much for me.

Too bad 7-OH is not used in pain management for break-through pain or taken every 2-3 days per week max.

Again producing it in IR, ER, or hydrid IR/ER constructions would be very useful in pain management.
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I've started using it for my chronic pain and it does make a good morning opiate for pain. I take 1/4 of a 15mg pill then take 50mg of Tianeptine sulphate about 6 hours later.
 
thurston said:
I've started using it for my chronic pain and it does make a good morning opiate for pain. I take 1/4 of a 15mg pill then take 50mg of Tianeptine sulphate about 6 hours later.
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It works best for me in the morning as my first opioid dose of the day. Or if taken when I am on empty. The transition orally is insanely fast. It is hard to beat because of how fast it works and how fast the peak comes on.
 
Them Witches said:
It works best for me in the morning as my first opioid dose of the day. Or if taken when I am on empty. The transition orally is insanely fast. It is hard to beat because of how fast it works and how fast the peak comes on.
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Yes, Speed of onset is another great thing about it, starts working in 15-20 minutes whereas it takes an hour and a half for the Tianeptine sulphate to work.
 
I’ve heard a lot of people saying that even with moderate tolerance, 7OH can still hit hard. Glad to hear you’re okay, but I’d be really cautious with this stuff. Even a little can knock you down, as you’ve just learned.
 
@saduncan -- what is weird about 7-OH is how fast someone can build a tolerance. Even in very high doses (240mg-480mg per dosage), if taken everyday it loses a lot of the desired effects. The "come on feeling" becomes not present for me.

Taken every 3-5 days, it is not as much of a issue. Still the effects always feel less each time I take it even if there are 3-5 days between dosing days. IMO, even at every 2 days, the effects I was seeking were difficult to feel.

In a full-blown addiction & dependence, the higher doses lasts 10-12 hours. For me every brand I tried sucked compared to "Opia's brand" 7-OH & 7-OH+PI. Example, the "Perks brand" high potency claimes 100mg per tablet with 4qty per pack (400mg 7-OH). I could hardly feel it and it felt much weaker than "Opia 240mg." A lot of money can be wasted when someone cannot find Opia and it is a huge let down. A 7-OH addiction & dependency is going to end up being very expensive.

The smoke shops and headshops in Virginia have removed it from the shelves and say they will not order anymore.
 
MissH2017 said:
7oh does not cause respiratory depression, taking too much would not have put you ay risk of a deadly OD that would require narcan. 7Oh and Kratom simply don’t have a risk of OD like traditional opioids. Regardless risk of addiction with 7oh is high.

7oh breaks through my 2mg sub dose no problem. I take 7oh 6 hours after subs and feel great. I too started on 10-20mg, I am now up to 50-100mg a day when I do take them. I limit myself to 2-3 times a week but I know without my subs I would undoubtedly be a daily user. Good luck homie, this is a much safer alternative to street dope and pills but you have to be smart, it can rob you of all your savings if you are not careful… as well as all the other risks associated with opioid addiction, aside from OD.
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I am in about exactly the same situation as you.
I've been at 2 mg buprenorphine taken as sparingly as possible so probably every 48 hours for about 6 years now, & I am able to rotate between the two fairly painlessly, but sometimes I am in withdrawal the same night after taking 7oh in the morning
When you take 70h do you stop your suboxone completely??
MissH2017 said:
7oh does not cause respiratory depression, taking too much would not have put you ay risk of a deadly OD that would require narcan. 7Oh and Kratom simply don’t have a risk of OD like traditional opioids. Regardless risk of addiction with 7oh is high.

7oh breaks through my 2mg sub dose no problem. I take 7oh 6 hours after subs and feel great. I too started on 10-20mg, I am now up to 50-100mg a day when I do take them. I limit myself to 2-3 times a week but I know without my subs I would undoubtedly be a daily user. Good luck homie, this is a much safer alternative to street dope and pills but you have to be smart, it can rob you of all your savings if you are not careful… as well as all the other risks associated with opioid addiction, aside from OD.
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Have you tried stopping the Suboxone completely when taking the 7oh??
I am in the exact same situation as you. I've been at 2 mg buprenorphine for about 6 years now. I have been using 7oh since April of this year. At first I would take my buprenorphine on top of the 7oh, but I have been able to rotate between the two fairly painlessly, although lots of nights waking up and withdrawal from the 7oh that I had taken in the morning.
At my worst, I would say I was up to 150 mg a day of 7oh very briefly, and when I was in withdrawals from that, I believe that 3 mg of buprenorphine was able to take them away. I really wish they were able to make this a prescription med, I know they never will. If it wasn't so expensive I would probably be using it almost everyday for chronic pain.
 
chippermonk said:
I'll be curious if your kratom tolerance has been affected by taking the 7 oh. Can you let us ( or me) know?
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Although I only take it every 5-7 days it seems that taking the 20 mgs just once bumped my tolerance up. I took 15 mgs last Saturday and then another 15 mgs 45 minutes later and did not get so overwhelmingly high. It is Sat again and I will probably take some tonight.
 
Whatever else, if experimenting (or indeed if just plain using) opioids, better to buddy up. Most of the people I've known who ODed did so alone.
 
4DQSAR said:
Whatever else, if experimenting (or indeed if just plain using) opioids, better to buddy up. Most of the people I've known who ODed did so alone.
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Yeah. I have Narcan in the bathroom but probably would not make it that far, LOL. On the other hand, I am super conservative. Its Sat night I am going to take maybe a fake Oxy (it is fent) wait 45 minutes then take 15 mgs of 7OH. I tested the fake Roxy a week or so ago, took half a pill then another half.

These pills look exactly like real Oxy so you know some care was put into making em.
 
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