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Nootropics CREATINE! A new age?

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Ismene2

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Dunno if anyone has explored creatine for it's mental effects? Just started taking it about 4 days ago and really noticed the mental effects - less brainfog, less tiredness. Just a beautiful positive feeling.

You know what I'm like, well, today I thought I'd drop 150 mics of DS 3.0 LSD in and say hello to the creatine elves! There does seems to be a noticeable effect from creatine - not so much in the visuals, just in the overall mental and physical way you experience LSD.

DEFINATELY worth exploring.

Good luck to you anyway.
 
Exploring it atm, after reading a interesting thread on Bluelight also highlighting,
the all around use of it besides the benefit s when training.
I did train, and Creatine [started on l-Citrulline and Protein replacement meal.
Pea based-powder, got a good amount of BBCA-s !]

Training consistent of intensive warm-up work out followed by Running.
And up till 300 push-up s when i was struck by a seizure and insomnia.

Super-fit going in seizure was good i was exceptionally fast back to base-line 10 more times then the previous ones. Good shit, bad was i was so muscular during my broken night rests i managed to use my muscle s so extensively i had muscle pain nearing Myalgia for almost 4 weeks, gone now. Finally 🙏

Can t say what way Creatine might have benefited me during.
But looking at my post s started immediatly after],
in the past i was broken and beat down.
Could hardly walk/ talk.

Posting on Bluelight took me 4 week s. [probably]

My post more resemble insomnia mania but with a high sparkle of ghost which is unusual. despite not training i am still taking Creatine, l-Citrulline, a Protein dose now and the [these are building block s for neurotransmitter s]. Along MACA, a good Multivitamin and Mg-Malate. And a more or less sufficient diet. So might it help it will be the result of the sum of what i do.

I am physically active as i need to do a lot so the can repair my house. But plan to start my training again. Sleeping remain s a pain in the ass, but not much i can do what i haven t tried. Got little hope in Magnolia Bark extract, but my digital skill s suck.
My order failed ! [don t help enhance digital insight]

What do you expect mentally Ismene2 ? it is very affordable so it will remain stack, and report back. If something noteworthy happen s.
 
Glad to hear that it's helping you, Ismene. I can't say that I've noticed any of the cognitive benefits that I'd hoped for from taking it at 10g a day for three weeks. It was cheap and low risk, so I figured it was worth a shot.
emkee_reinvented said:
Got little hope in Magnolia Bark extract, but my digital skill s suck.
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It's got a fair bit of research behind it, but if it did anything for me, I didn't notice. That doesn't mean much, as I have zero baseline anxiety. I just hoped it would help me sleep. I don't recommend using it sublingually. It fucked the tissue up in my mouth for several days. I went through a fair bit of it, but I've never touched it after that experience.
 
Magnolia bark tastes bad, so don’t sublingual. Start low, but I take a few grams at once. Also, this isn’t herbal Xanax. The effect is subtle, but it is there. It also doesn’t really have a sedative effect.
 
General alcazar said:
Magnolia bark tastes bad, so don’t sublingual. Start low, but I take a few grams at once. Also, this isn’t herbal Xanax. The effect is subtle, but it is there. It also doesn’t really have a sedative effect.
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Kinda my expected it looked to good to be true. To bad it didn t perform as well as on paper. It s a GABA -a agonist [maybe partial like a Benzo]. Sad it doesn t behave as powerful as a Benzo. Which i hoped. My dr refuses to prescribe anything remotely drugs like. Don t help much when you have insomnia/ chronically. And certainly not against the seizure s following.

Don t have to much anxiety, never had afaik, sleeping is my roadblock atm.
it s good to have someones experience, they are scarce on Magnolia.

I had no succes with GABA-t/ transferase. Inhibit s the enzym breaking down GABA.
i i am correct, like Lemon Balm and Passiflora. Melatonin does nada. But when i had Benzo s few month s i would dream on them. Now i sleep, without them. And feel equalliy less rested as result. No dream = no dREM sleep/ no rest !
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Don t have to much anxiety, never had afaik, sleeping is my roadblock atm.
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I expected very little from it but mulungu bark extract helped my sleep, it won't knock you out like benzo's and I don't get any "feeling" from it but it helps put me in in a place where I can nod off, rather than lie awake with my thoughts racing. Combining it with passiflora helps me get to sleep quicker but I see you've already tried that on it's own without success, so try just the mulungu or if you have some left try combining them.

It might do nothing for you but it is cheap enough to try and find out.
 
Pfafffed said:
Glad to hear that it's helping you, Ismene. I can't say that I've noticed any of the cognitive benefits that I'd hoped for from taking it at 10g a day for three weeks. It was cheap and low risk, so I figured it was worth a shot.

It's got a fair bit of research behind it, but if it did anything for me, I didn't notice. That doesn't mean much, as I have zero baseline anxiety. I just hoped it would help me sleep. I don't recommend using it sublingually. It fucked the tissue up in my mouth for several days. I went through a fair bit of it, but I've never touched it after that experience.
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Are you young-ish? I've seen a couple of reports saying it works better for older and sleep-deprived brains than young people
 
Ismene2 said:
Dunno if anyone has explored creatine for it's mental effects? Just started taking it about 4 days ago and really noticed the mental effects - less brainfog, less tiredness. Just a beautiful positive feeling
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The results indicate that creatine shares with ketamine the ability to acutely reverse the corticosterone-induced depressive-like behavior by a mechanism dependent on PI3K/AKT/mTOR pathway, and modulation of the synaptic protein PSD95 as well as BDNF in the hippocampus, indicating the relevance of targeting these proteins for the management of depressive disorders.
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Moreover, we suggest that creatine should be further investigated as a possible fast-acting antidepressant.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26660117/

Ismene2 said:
...today I thought I'd drop 150 mics of DS 3.0 LSD in and say hello to the creatine elves!
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You could visit the agmatine elves also, except agmatine is much more similar to ketamine in terms of its MOA. Agmatine stand-alone has good recreational potential, doses range from 500mg to 4 grams depending on the intended use. As with anything it's wiser to start with lower doses to acclimatise.

In essence, I've been doing 2.6 grams of Agmatine once a week since the beginning of November/December.

It shares a similiar, primary, MOA (mTor & AMPA) as ketamine in terms of neurogenesis, and it has some pretty pleasant 5HT2-A agonistic actions making it as en excellent insight tool (no hallucinations though).

In depth information can be found in my previous posts. It is particularly interesting that it does not have any hallucinatory effects, such as OEVs and CEVs, despite its 5HT2 actions. Yet distinctly feels very much like a psychedelic in terms of time-dilatation, emotions, and insight. A topic discussed in one of the links below.
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Reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/7t5779/agmatine_metamorphosis/
 
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i'm excited about this thread because, today i recalled about creatine's cognitive properties.

and i think i might have noticed that in past short self-trials.

now i'm thinking 10g every morning, is that right? is it worth cycling it on/off
 
l41n said:
i'm excited about this thread because, today i recalled about creatine's cognitive properties.

and i think i might have noticed that in past short self-trials.

now i'm thinking 10g every morning, is that right? is it worth cycling it on/off
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Are you young-ish? Or an old fogey like me? Apparantly the older and more fucked your brain is, the better creatine makes you feel.
 
I've a good 20 years of doing acid every week on you so maybe my brain was so utterly fucked and gagging for some of that ATP - slobbering on that pole!!

MInd you, I think acid makes your brain stronger!! Builds new connections and keeps your brain on it's toes!!
 
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Putting my strap-on cock on top of the table right now, I confess I'm on about 7g of creatine and 2, 00 sized capsules of D9 and about 50mg of sustained release morphine,

I do seem to be laughing an awful lot on my trips with creatine - I might be imagining it cos laughing is the main thing I do when I'm tripping but I HAVE had some really, really powerful euphoric, laughing fits. I really thought I was going to die laughing the other night - I woke up the next day with sides aching. I just could not stop laughing - every time I stopped for a second, this irrestistable force would come up from my very core and I'd be cying with laughter again.

One other thing I've noticed - creatine is really good THE DAY AFTER acid. Seems to rejuvenate your brain a lot quicker - push the dose a bit higher. Throw in a capsule of THC and you are laughing. Quite literally.
 
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Creatine is one of the best supplements you can take to reliably boost IQ slightly in healthy people.
I strongly recommend it and am actually going to take some when I get home since I haven’t in a while.
 
I really wouldn’t want to take a 00 capsule of delta 9, but I might try mega dosing creatine and report back. I too am a sleep deprived old fogey, so what the hell. I take 2 grams a day currently which helps maintain muscle mass since Ive been a vegan most of my life. What kind of creatine? Monohydrate, ethyl ester, or…
 
24HourPangolin said:
I expected very little from it but mulungu bark extract helped my sleep, it won't knock you out like benzo's and I don't get any "feeling" from it but it helps put me in in a place where I can nod off, rather than lie awake with my thoughts racing. Combining it with passiflora helps me get to sleep quicker but I see you've already tried that on it's own without success, so try just the mulungu or if you have some left try combining them.

It might do nothing for you but it is cheap enough to try and find out.
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Admittetly finding a place that carrie s herb s. And at the same time not knowing if they contain any of the actives like Erytrhavine. First time i had Mulungu.
Both an extract about 2/ 4 times as strong as the bark shred s. bought both.
Very long ago when you could buy herb s from UK, like Kratom or Kava.

The Netherland s had not woken to the internet age yet. These worked the same with equivalent dosage. And was a very effective sleep-aid. Best i ever had, as it had no sedative or lingering effects, so no residual grogginess. And a excellent sleep, besides being a very effective seizure control/ anti-convulsion. [on paper/ no pers. experience]

My last purchase, last bag Mulungu bark from a local Head-shop. Looked the same, but seemed devoid of effects. Didn t work or was bunk ? Didn t find a other local source. Kinda like most supplement s, hard to find not to much to write back about.

eMKEe
 
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