Help with Oxycodone-potentiate

[mitemouse]

Hey everyone, this is my first ever post after reading BL info for probably 20 years. Hence, I'm only a green lighter.
Okay so I've often found advice here on BL, and have read all the Qs and As.
I can't find a diffinative answer to the question im about to ask. My brief hx is thay I'm a 47yo female, appx 5'3", 63" or 1.9m. I am a bit too heavy foe my height, at 160lbs, 11.5 stone or 75.5ish kilo. I have the following scripts available to me right now, and on a continual basis, though my PCM (primary care) physician is hoping to wean me down. I'm rounding up/down EACH individual pill to the nearest pill for easier conversion).

Right now, I have as follows-

CONTROLLED or SCHEDULED in US:
15mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 3ea)
5mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 130ea)
2mg Diazepam (valium/appx 80ea)
5mg Diazepam (valium/90ea)
75mg Pregabalin (Lyrica, 100ea)
150 Pregabalin (Lyrica, 180ea)
250mg Carisoprodol (Soma, 110 ea)

OTC or prescribed non-scheduled meds:
25mg Promethazine (phenegran/appx 300ea)
4mg Ondansetron (zophran, 30ea)
8mg Ondansetron (zophran, 90 ea)
100mg Topiramate (Topimax, 100 ea)
6mg Tizanidine (Zanaflex, 120ea)
200mg Quetiapine Fumarate (Seroquel, 300ea)
200mg Cimetidine (Tagament, 120ea)
6mg/.050mg Sumatriptan Auto-injectors
(Imiprex , 8ea)
20mg Duloxetine (Cymbalta, 100ea)
20mg Dicylomine (Bentyl, 40ea)
0.2mg Clonodine (Duraclon, 90ea)

And some randos:
Vitamin D?
THC/CBM gummies, Cycling Frog brand, 25mg THC/ 25mg CBD
25mg Red Maeng Da capsules (Kratom, 60ea)
1oz of loose red vein kratom
1oz of loose ground white vein kratom
1oz of loose green vein kratom
60mg 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (MP) pills (6ea)
White grapefruit juice (NOT blend)
AND a combo of USED Mylan brand, non-resevior type, fentanyl transdermal patches between 50mg, 25mg, and 12mg, used by only myself, for transdermal use as prescribed, between appx 14 and all 72 hours of prescribed use, all on the packaged plastic backs/foil outer seal for the adhesion to hopefully not disintegrate the meds contained within, all still sticky, and appx 40ea of various dosages.

So the harder part. Like I mentioned briefly, my NP (PCM) is talking about cutting down my scripts. I've been on them appx 18 months. Initially, I was on most the scripts I listed above for appx 7 years, except narcotic pain relief and Soma sporatically. 18-14 months ago, I was on 50mg fentanyl patches, 85tmg oxy. 13-11 months ago, 25mg fentanyl patch and 75mg oxy. Now, I'm on no patch and 75mg oxy. I've been taking all 75mg oxy daily since then, She added Soma 4 weeks ago, 375mg 4x a day.

Problem is, this guy I know is an addict, and he got into my oxy a few months ago. So Ive been continuously short... but HE'S on methadone (225mg/day), so when he takes my oxy, he backfills me with 30mg of methadone a day. Which is great (for me) to stop the withdrawals from opiates for a good 24 hours, but It doesn't help my pain, and then HE'S short HIS meds and I have to give him some of my oxy to help him, and the cycle just going on, ya know?

Now my doctor has added the Soma and wants me to drop the oxy, but I'll be SO SHORT and am hoping to find out how to know how to potentiate every last bit I have. I have 17 days till I get 90ea 15mg oxy, but now HES sick again, and needs help stretching the few oxy I have left with his being 3 days short on his methadone- he picks up 3 week's worth in 6 days.
SOOO, how do I make my oxy try and last me the whole 17 days without taking HIS methadone when he gets a refill and Continuing this vicious cycle? How can HE potentiate the methadone/oxy scripts to help him from becoming more sick/not stumbling because of a Soma overdo? I know tagament, WGFJ, and DXM can all help, but how much (I've read 1 gram of Tagament, 45 minutes to an hour before a fatty meal and then the oxy/methadone.)

I've done 4ea 15mg tabs of DXM in the past to extend my script, but they make me VERY tired). GFJ has never helped me, but i drink it daily anyway... How much of the other two are recommended? For me and for him? He IS a recovering addict, and has taken like 40ea Soma every 12-24 hours last time he was sick, but I was literally feeding him and taking him to the bathroom to pee,.. he was shaking so badly, and I know they can result in seizures... plz no advise that I should no longer be loving towards him, okay?

In case you're curiois, I DO uave a huge, insane stock of meds. I know Im very lucky in this respect. I'm also a US military retiree, have some in-service and non- service-connected injuries- and being in during 9/11, some typical PTSD BS, but ALSO very documented and diagnosed, chronic panic attacks and dissociative disorder.

I say this because I had Ketamine administered IM because they couldn't establish a vein after a spiral comminuted humerus fracture, 4x IM leg injections cuz they were outta pain meds, and I SERIOUSLY freaked out, it was like an old-timey Pink Floyd video from the 80s in the worse context, lol. I never have used IV before, but am tempted to at this moment, and my friend could help me with it aince he's experienced, and I'm not, and frankly, Im just kinda not interested unless it'll seriously help with pain relief, amd intenaity and LONGEVITY of the meds. I'm NOT that interested i vgetting a high, only relief and any avoidance of withdrawls. I HAVE tried snorting a couple 15mg oxy last script in vain attempts of stop being sick, but didnt help. Ive never parachuted anything and dont even know how.

As I said, any and all advise will be SO APPRECIATED! Thanks so much either way

 

[mitemouse]

Hey everyone, this is my first ever post after reading BL info for probably 20 years. Hence, I'm only a green lighter.
Okay so I've often found advice here on BL, and have read all the Qs and As.
I can't find a diffinative answer to the question im about to ask. My brief hx is thay I'm a 47yo female, appx 5'3", 63" or 1.9m. I am a bit too heavy foe my height, at 160lbs, 11.5 stone or 75.5ish kilo. I have the following scripts available to me right now, and on a continual basis, though my PCM (primary care) physician is hoping to wean me down. I'm rounding up/down EACH individual pill to the nearest pill for easier conversion).

Right now, I have as follows-

CONTROLLED or SCHEDULED in US:
15mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 3ea)
5mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 130ea)
2mg Diazepam (valium/appx 80ea)
5mg Diazepam (valium/90ea)
75mg Pregabalin (Lyrica, 100ea)
150 Pregabalin (Lyrica, 180ea)
250mg Carisoprodol (Soma, 110 ea)

OTC or prescribed non-scheduled meds:
25mg Promethazine (phenegran/appx 300ea)
4mg Ondansetron (zophran, 30ea)
8mg Ondansetron (zophran, 90 ea)
100mg Topiramate (Topimax, 100 ea)
6mg Tizanidine (Zanaflex, 120ea)
200mg Quetiapine Fumarate (Seroquel, 300ea)
200mg Cimetidine (Tagament, 120ea)
6mg/.050mg Sumatriptan Auto-injectors
(Imiprex , 8ea)
20mg Duloxetine (Cymbalta, 100ea)
20mg Dicylomine (Bentyl, 40ea)
0.2mg Clonodine (Duraclon, 90ea)

And some randos:
Vitamin D?
THC/CBM gummies, Cycling Frog brand, 25mg THC/ 25mg CBD
25mg Red Maeng Da capsules (Kratom, 60ea)
1oz of loose red vein kratom
1oz of loose ground white vein kratom
1oz of loose green vein kratom
60mg 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (MP) pills (6ea)
White grapefruit juice (NOT blend)
AND a combo of USED Mylan brand, non-resevior type, fentanyl transdermal patches between 50mg, 25mg, and 12mg, used by only myself, for transdermal use as prescribed, between appx 14 and all 72 hours of prescribed use, all on the packaged plastic backs/foil outer seal for the adhesion to hopefully not disintegrate the meds contained within, all still sticky, and appx 40ea of various dosages.

So the harder part. Like I mentioned briefly, my NP (PCM) is talking about cutting down my scripts. I've been on them appx 18 months. Initially, I was on most the scripts I listed above for appx 7 years, except narcotic pain relief and Soma sporatically. 18-14 months ago, I was on 50mg fentanyl patches, 85tmg oxy. 13-11 months ago, 25mg fentanyl patch and 75mg oxy. Now, I'm on no patch and 75mg oxy. I've been taking all 75mg oxy daily since then, She added Soma 4 weeks ago, 375mg 4x a day.

Problem is, this guy I know is an addict, and he got into my oxy a few months ago. So Ive been continuously short... but HE'S on methadone (225mg/day), so when he takes my oxy, he backfills me with 30mg of methadone a day. Which is great (for me) to stop the withdrawals from opiates for a good 24 hours, but It doesn't help my pain, and then HE'S short HIS meds and I have to give him some of my oxy to help him, and the cycle just going on, ya know?

Now my doctor has added the Soma and wants me to drop the oxy, but I'll be SO SHORT and am hoping to find out how to know how to potentiate every last bit I have. I have 17 days till I get 90ea 15mg oxy, but now HES sick again, and needs help stretching the few oxy I have left with his being 3 days short on his methadone- he picks up 3 week's worth in 6 days.
SOOO, how do I make my oxy try and last me the whole 17 days without taking HIS methadone when he gets a refill and Continuing this vicious cycle? How can HE potentiate the methadone/oxy scripts to help him from becoming more sick/not stumbling because of a Soma overdo? I know tagament, WGFJ, and DXM can all help, but how much (I've read 1 gram of Tagament, 45 minutes to an hour before a fatty meal and then the oxy/methadone.)

I've done 4ea 15mg tabs of DXM in the past to extend my script, but they make me VERY tired). GFJ has never helped me, but i drink it daily anyway... How much of the other two are recommended? For me and for him? He IS a recovering addict, and has taken like 40ea Soma every 12-24 hours last time he was sick, but I was literally feeding him and taking him to the bathroom to pee,.. he was shaking so badly, and I know they can result in seizures... plz no advise that I should no longer be loving towards him, okay?

In case you're curiois, I DO uave a huge, insane stock of meds. I know Im very lucky in this respect. I'm also a US military retiree, have some in-service and non- service-connected injuries- and being in during 9/11, some typical PTSD BS, but ALSO very documented and diagnosed, chronic panic attacks and dissociative disorder.

I say this because I had Ketamine administered IM because they couldn't establish a vein after a spiral comminuted humerus fracture, 4x IM leg injections cuz they were outta pain meds, and I SERIOUSLY freaked out, it was like an old-timey Pink Floyd video from the 80s in the worse context, lol. I never have used IV before, but am tempted to at this moment, and my friend could help me with it aince he's experienced, and I'm not, and frankly, Im just kinda not interested unless it'll seriously help with pain relief, amd intenaity and LONGEVITY of the meds. I'm NOT that interested i vgetting a high, only relief and any avoidance of withdrawls. I HAVE tried snorting a couple 15mg oxy last script in vain attempts of stop being sick, but didnt help. Ive never parachuted anything and dont even know how.

As I said, any and all advise will be SO APPRECIATED! Thanks so much either way

And if I violated ANY RULES or have posted on the wrong sub, please help? I'm sorry for any errors in advance....;D

 

[Them Witches]

You have a lot going on and extra on the side. You are overthinking having oxycodone removed by your doctor. He is not going to change his/her mind. From reading your post I know that you do not take the Oxycodone as prescribed, doing that is riding the "river of deceit" in the direction of down. The pain is self-chosen so the prophet says. 7-OH does not fill in the gaps of medicine deficit well. It just makes everything worse.

I am not hating. I have been were you are. Right now you are on too many meds that distract people from forging progression building off of daily positive routines involving self-work. Not everyone but a large number identify with this. I do. I had to re-create and recover from not having my daughter living with me over the past 2 years. I do it by waking up early and do this :
-- only take 7-OH right when I wake up. It is the best quickest transition from being dope sick or heavily physically dependent and ultra opioid tolerance of 40 years.
-- a few reels while the 7-OH kicks in. then emails, draft text messages to who I want to contract that day then send them all at 8am or at 1:11pm
-- gratitude list, self-inventory, powerless & unmanageable self-reflect, etc, etc... Read something and write something.
--stretch, light exercises, tai chi exercises, back roller exercises, short walk or long walk with the dog
-- shower, think about WW3 prepping needs and skills, have a conversation with some human or not
-- handle chores, work on the race car, work on other car, build something, make something, do something that betters my life
-- collect firewood, make a water purify system and store water, cook, laugh,
-- shower, eat, entertainment, forums, plan for tomorrow
-- sleep, wake up an do it all over. stay on track and it just gets easier, working out the medications will work themselves out, maybe remove some & replace with stronger ones that do the same thing

With Oxycodone You reap what You sow. It has a firm back hand and always comes to collect. So does 7-OH, it is a good collector too. With Oxy, less is more. Take it correctly and there will not no problems.

Do not listen to the random thought that says, "Just go take 4-6qty tablets. It will feel good and you can make up the count later.."
That is a demon talking to you. It wants to rob your high and feel it too. Notice when someone hears that thought and words that it feels mechanical, cold, and it is a strong dominating thought that almost commands someone to stop. Turn track and head straight to supply.

With opioids regarding your doctor removing them, this is what they are being asked to do from the practice management. The three letter word company constantly leans on pharmacies and medical practices. The old 100 questions game. If someone does not have a stack of medical paperwork exhausting all available options treating their pain, the patient is grandfathered in before the opioid crisis, has a large number of surgeries, documented chronic pain for an extended period of time ex. well over 12 months, documented for chronic pain syndrome or regional complex pain syndrome, and the patient carries a prognosis "poor" diagnosis, on perminant disability, "high risk patient doctor letter, and/or has five doctors like me that.

Crush the Oxy into power, dissolve under the tongue and swallow it closely. You already have the comfort meds everyone wants. More Clonidine would do the trick. Be safe out there. IF the drugs do not kill you the people will.

 

[chippermonk]

You do have a lot going on, my condolences. That's an awfully complicated sounding mix of substances going on there and your friend is making your self- medication more complicated ( I say self medicating because that mix is not what any doctor prescribed you to do, and I don't think any doctor would even understand the potential interactions)). Trying to substitute this and and that for the other is going to lead to problems and you could easily unintentionally end up with a bigger habit. It sounds you are even thinking about IV, which obviously is a huge step ( though your particular drugs don't sound formulated for that )
Not to sound preachy, sorry, but you will be happier to find a different way to cope. Good luck!

 

[Kurt Cobain]

You have everything. The only other thing you can do is grow your own poppies and I don't recommend that bc of your obvious behavioral tendencies, not judging we all been there and or still are but it's not going to help.

 

[Them Witches]

Tagamet (Cimetidine) 200mg acid reducer helps increase the blood plasma levels of Oxycodone. Grapefruit juice helps also. But you are already taking that.

You have maxed out on what you can do besides increase the Oxycodone. It seems your doctor is removing this to stop it from getting out of hand. Your doctor is most likely thinking since you have Valium, Soma, Lyrica, Zanaflex that you have enough pain relief for your current condition and status of diagnosis. It seems you do not have a "prognosis poor" and this is a good thing. I have the "prognosis poor" status and I am on a steady decline health wise.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Tagamet (Cimetidine) 200mg acid reducer helps increase the blood plasma levels of Oxycodone. Grapefruit juice helps also. But you are already taking that.

You have maxed out on what you can do besides increase the Oxycodone. It seems your doctor is removing this to stop it from getting out of hand. Your doctor is most likely thinking since you have Valium, Soma, Lyrica, Zanaflex that you have enough pain relief for your current condition and status of diagnosis. It seems you do not have a "prognosis poor" and this is a good thing. I have the "prognosis poor" status and I am on a steady decline health wise.

Ya I can't really judge but seems like you're addicted more than it's helping you now

 

[Jnowhere]

And if I violated ANY RULES or have posted on the wrong sub, please help? I'm sorry for any errors in advance....;D

DXM is prescription in the UK? It is about 1 pound a bottle with sales tax at the dollartree store. Generic Robotussin.

You have a lot going on and extra on the side. You are overthinking having oxycodone removed by your doctor. He is not going to change his/her mind. From reading your post I know that you do not take the Oxycodone as prescribed, doing that is riding the "river of deceit" in the direction of down. The pain is self-chosen so the prophet says. 7-OH does not fill in the gaps of medicine deficit well. It just makes everything worse.

I am not hating. I have been were you are. Right now you are on too many meds that distract people from forging progression building off of daily positive routines involving self-work. Not everyone but a large number identify with this. I do. I had to re-create and recover from not having my daughter living with me over the past 2 years. I do it by waking up early and do this :
-- only take 7-OH right when I wake up. It is the best quickest transition from being dope sick or heavily physically dependent and ultra opioid tolerance of 40 years.
-- a few reels while the 7-OH kicks in. then emails, draft text messages to who I want to contract that day then send them all at 8am or at 1:11pm
-- gratitude list, self-inventory, powerless & unmanageable self-reflect, etc, etc... Read something and write something.
--stretch, light exercises, tai chi exercises, back roller exercises, short walk or long walk with the dog
-- shower, think about WW3 prepping needs and skills, have a conversation with some human or not
-- handle chores, work on the race car, work on other car, build something, make something, do something that betters my life
-- collect firewood, make a water purify system and store water, cook, laugh,
-- shower, eat, entertainment, forums, plan for tomorrow
-- sleep, wake up an do it all over. stay on track and it just gets easier, working out the medications will work themselves out, maybe remove some & replace with stronger ones that do the same thing

With Oxycodone You reap what You sow. It has a firm back hand and always comes to collect. So does 7-OH, it is a good collector too. With Oxy, less is more. Take it correctly and there will not no problems.

Do not listen to the random thought that says, "Just go take 4-6qty tablets. It will feel good and you can make up the count later.."
That is a demon talking to you. It wants to rob your high and feel it too. Notice when someone hears that thought and words that it feels mechanical, cold, and it is a strong dominating thought that almost commands someone to stop. Turn track and head straight to supply.

With opioids regarding your doctor removing them, this is what they are being asked to do from the practice management. The three letter word company constantly leans on pharmacies and medical practices. The old 100 questions game. If someone does not have a stack of medical paperwork exhausting all available options treating their pain, the patient is grandfathered in before the opioid crisis, has a large number of surgeries, documented chronic pain for an extended period of time ex. well over 12 months, documented for chronic pain syndrome or regional complex pain syndrome, and the patient carries a prognosis "poor" diagnosis, on perminant disability, "high risk patient doctor letter, and/or has five doctors like me that.

Crush the Oxy into power, dissolve under the tongue and swallow it closely. You already have the comfort meds everyone wants. More Clonidine would do the trick. Be safe out there. IF the drugs do not kill you the people will.

WW3 preping needs. What country are from?

 

[Them Witches]

Ya I can't really judge but seems like you're addicted more than it's helping you now

"Dependent" is the correct medical definition, not addicted. A positive active "doctor & patient relationship" that yielded and continues to produce "a better quality of life" for the patient is not defined as "addicted."

All of my medications continue to help me. When they do not they are removed or rotated. Having Chronic Pain Syndrome going on 40 years and CRPS is something I would not wish on anyone. I have a tall slice of health disorders that no one wants. Both pain syndromes are "prognosis poor" determined in 2017.

This is a small list of things that defines "a worry or red-flag" requiring interventional actions for a change in a patient's medical treatment :
-- Diverting personal prescriptions for the streets, a patient not following the doctor's orders via dosage quantity & times between dosages, a patient violating a pain management contract, a patient requesting medication refills early, a patient is constantly requesting more narcotics, and/or a patient attempting to mislead, lie, manipulate a doctor & nursing staff.
-- Depending where the patient's experience level is with opioids via 1st rodeo, 2nd rodeo, and well past the "honeymoon stage" determines outcomes in uncomfortable ways normally.

Maybe your post was intended to get a reaction from me, your mood was comedy, you know trolling. My intent was to provide the OP with as much "personal experience" in the thread matter. Being judgmental on my behalf towards the OP and you is not the intent either. The forum is a place of learning mostly. That is why I am here. If I say something about something, I 9.8 times out of 10 I can back it up or someone can normally vouch/proxy it.

Please enlighten me, how you developed the "seems like I am addicted" more than it's helping me now opinion.

To clear the air, I did not start this thread. Going off the details given by the OP, we are trying to answer and provide reasonable explanations regarding the reason(s) for OP's doctor decision for intervention in the medication program and intervention of the treatment protocol.

If I came off coy to anyone it was not my intent. I have to go back and look. Wording is everything when we are not present.

 

[applesbliss]

Tagamet (Cimetidine) 200mg acid reducer helps increase the blood plasma levels of Oxycodone. Grapefruit juice helps also. But you are already taking that.

You have maxed out on what you can do besides increase the Oxycodone. It seems your doctor is removing this to stop it from getting out of hand. Your doctor is most likely thinking since you have Valium, Soma, Lyrica, Zanaflex that you have enough pain relief for your current condition and status of diagnosis. It seems you do not have a "prognosis poor" and this is a good thing. I have the "prognosis poor" status and I am on a steady decline health wise.

Does Cimetidine or GFJ help when potentiating a very low-dose of Oxycodone (5mg)? Is there any effective way to potentiate such a low dose? I use it as a chill buzz for days when I'm not using anything else. I have had some success (it seems) with 5 - 10mg of Oxycodone and 100 - 200mg of CBD extract and / or low-dose of Clonazepam (.5 - 1mg). Curious if there are any other good and relatively safe recommended combos to try to maximize low-dose Oxy? Does using the oxy sublingually help at all? I haven't noticed a difference when I've tried sublingually. Context: I have 5mg Oxy tabs with no Acetaminophen/Para.

 

[Them Witches]

Does Cimetidine or GFJ help when potentiating a very low-dose of Oxycodone (5mg)? Is there any effective way to potentiate such a low dose? I use it as a chill buzz for days when I'm not using anything else. I have had some success (it seems) with 5 - 10mg of Oxycodone and 100 - 200mg of CBD extract and / or low-dose of Clonazepam (.5 - 1mg). Curious if there are any other good and relatively safe recommended combos to try to maximize low-dose Oxy? Does using the oxy sublingually help at all? I haven't noticed a difference when I've tried sublingually. Context: I have 5mg Oxy tabs with no Acetaminophen/Para.

Sublingual Oxycodone is no where near as effective as crushing (Oxycodone HCl instant release) and placing under the tongue to dissolve. I would try this first.

I am not sure how much Cimetidine will increase the effects of Oxycodone 5mg. There is only one way to find out. I suggest drinking GFJ and taking Cimetidine 25-30 minutes before the Oxycodone. Right before taking the Oxycodone take 2-3qty Tums. There are a few steroids we can take with the Oxycodone to help more cross the BBB.

I would try things I mentioned in the order listed. Then dissolve the Oxycodone under the tongue. You will absorb more active ingredient directly into the bloodstream. This will help in losing less active ingredient from first-pass metabolism.

All of these drugs increase the effects of opioids and/or opioids increase the effects of these drugs :
-- Clonidine or Zanaflex = "Alpha-2 Receptor" *** safe to minor risk ***
-- Ativan, Xanax, or Clonazepam = "Benzo" *** medium to dangerous ***
-- Lunesta or Ambien = Z-Drugs "non-benzo" sedative & hypnotic *** medium risk ***
-- Promethazine or Vistaril PAM (Hydroxyzine pamoate) = Rx Antihistamine "sedative properties" *** safest ***
-- Cyclobenzaprine = Muscle Relaxer *** medium risk ***
-- Gabapentin or Lyrica = anticonvulsant *** safe ***
-- Phenobarbital or Butalbital = Barbituates *** very dangerous. causes sustained bradycardia and CNS depression ***
-- Haloperidol, Quetiapine, or Risperidone = Antipsychotics *** medium risk ***
-- Droperidol = rapid tranquilizer, antipsychotic, strong sedative *** very dangerous ***


On the natural side, Valerian Root Extract (630mg per 1mL), Kava Kava Extract,

 

[oxyloxy]

Hey everyone, this is my first ever post after reading BL info for probably 20 years. Hence, I'm only a green lighter.
Okay so I've often found advice here on BL, and have read all the Qs and As.
I can't find a diffinative answer to the question im about to ask. My brief hx is thay I'm a 47yo female, appx 5'3", 63" or 1.9m. I am a bit too heavy foe my height, at 160lbs, 11.5 stone or 75.5ish kilo. I have the following scripts available to me right now, and on a continual basis, though my PCM (primary care) physician is hoping to wean me down. I'm rounding up/down EACH individual pill to the nearest pill for easier conversion).

Right now, I have as follows-

CONTROLLED or SCHEDULED in US:
15mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 3ea)
5mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 130ea)
2mg Diazepam (valium/appx 80ea)
5mg Diazepam (valium/90ea)
75mg Pregabalin (Lyrica, 100ea)
150 Pregabalin (Lyrica, 180ea)
250mg Carisoprodol (Soma, 110 ea)

OTC or prescribed non-scheduled meds:
25mg Promethazine (phenegran/appx 300ea)
4mg Ondansetron (zophran, 30ea)
8mg Ondansetron (zophran, 90 ea)
100mg Topiramate (Topimax, 100 ea)
6mg Tizanidine (Zanaflex, 120ea)
200mg Quetiapine Fumarate (Seroquel, 300ea)
200mg Cimetidine (Tagament, 120ea)
6mg/.050mg Sumatriptan Auto-injectors
(Imiprex , 8ea)
20mg Duloxetine (Cymbalta, 100ea)
20mg Dicylomine (Bentyl, 40ea)
0.2mg Clonodine (Duraclon, 90ea)

And some randos:
Vitamin D?
THC/CBM gummies, Cycling Frog brand, 25mg THC/ 25mg CBD
25mg Red Maeng Da capsules (Kratom, 60ea)
1oz of loose red vein kratom
1oz of loose ground white vein kratom
1oz of loose green vein kratom
60mg 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (MP) pills (6ea)
White grapefruit juice (NOT blend)
AND a combo of USED Mylan brand, non-resevior type, fentanyl transdermal patches between 50mg, 25mg, and 12mg, used by only myself, for transdermal use as prescribed, between appx 14 and all 72 hours of prescribed use, all on the packaged plastic backs/foil outer seal for the adhesion to hopefully not disintegrate the meds contained within, all still sticky, and appx 40ea of various dosages.

So the harder part. Like I mentioned briefly, my NP (PCM) is talking about cutting down my scripts. I've been on them appx 18 months. Initially, I was on most the scripts I listed above for appx 7 years, except narcotic pain relief and Soma sporatically. 18-14 months ago, I was on 50mg fentanyl patches, 85tmg oxy. 13-11 months ago, 25mg fentanyl patch and 75mg oxy. Now, I'm on no patch and 75mg oxy. I've been taking all 75mg oxy daily since then, She added Soma 4 weeks ago, 375mg 4x a day.

Problem is, this guy I know is an addict, and he got into my oxy a few months ago. So Ive been continuously short... but HE'S on methadone (225mg/day), so when he takes my oxy, he backfills me with 30mg of methadone a day. Which is great (for me) to stop the withdrawals from opiates for a good 24 hours, but It doesn't help my pain, and then HE'S short HIS meds and I have to give him some of my oxy to help him, and the cycle just going on, ya know?

Now my doctor has added the Soma and wants me to drop the oxy, but I'll be SO SHORT and am hoping to find out how to know how to potentiate every last bit I have. I have 17 days till I get 90ea 15mg oxy, but now HES sick again, and needs help stretching the few oxy I have left with his being 3 days short on his methadone- he picks up 3 week's worth in 6 days.
SOOO, how do I make my oxy try and last me the whole 17 days without taking HIS methadone when he gets a refill and Continuing this vicious cycle? How can HE potentiate the methadone/oxy scripts to help him from becoming more sick/not stumbling because of a Soma overdo? I know tagament, WGFJ, and DXM can all help, but how much (I've read 1 gram of Tagament, 45 minutes to an hour before a fatty meal and then the oxy/methadone.)

I've done 4ea 15mg tabs of DXM in the past to extend my script, but they make me VERY tired). GFJ has never helped me, but i drink it daily anyway... How much of the other two are recommended? For me and for him? He IS a recovering addict, and has taken like 40ea Soma every 12-24 hours last time he was sick, but I was literally feeding him and taking him to the bathroom to pee,.. he was shaking so badly, and I know they can result in seizures... plz no advise that I should no longer be loving towards him, okay?

In case you're curiois, I DO uave a huge, insane stock of meds. I know Im very lucky in this respect. I'm also a US military retiree, have some in-service and non- service-connected injuries- and being in during 9/11, some typical PTSD BS, but ALSO very documented and diagnosed, chronic panic attacks and dissociative disorder.

I say this because I had Ketamine administered IM because they couldn't establish a vein after a spiral comminuted humerus fracture, 4x IM leg injections cuz they were outta pain meds, and I SERIOUSLY freaked out, it was like an old-timey Pink Floyd video from the 80s in the worse context, lol. I never have used IV before, but am tempted to at this moment, and my friend could help me with it aince he's experienced, and I'm not, and frankly, Im just kinda not interested unless it'll seriously help with pain relief, amd intenaity and LONGEVITY of the meds. I'm NOT that interested i vgetting a high, only relief and any avoidance of withdrawls. I HAVE tried snorting a couple 15mg oxy last script in vain attempts of stop being sick, but didnt help. Ive never parachuted anything and dont even know how.

As I said, any and all advise will be SO APPRECIATED! Thanks so much either way

I have heard Soma potentiates it big time. I’m surprised that you have it, because it is not available as far as I know in the US. The closest I can get is Zanaflex and I use that for sleep.

I wrote a whole long post about this that probably nobody read, but grapefruit juice when you are taking the oxy, both a couple gulps before, then drink it down with it, and then a gulp or two after, and that should potentiate really well.

I remember someone here once had posted the perfect formula and it was something like T -45 minutes drink a bunch of grapefruit juice, then drink seltzer water with quinine, then t-30 take Coricidin HBP coffin, cold, along with tag me, and about 10 minutes before take some Tums

I used to do that, but then I found that it was entirely unnecessary. Taking my OXY with my grapefruit juice potentiates it very well without having to add on all the other stuff. But you need to take it with the medication and it needs to be the type that’s either white or in my avatar above. I drink the one in my avatar above because they stopped carrying the pure white grapefruit juice. Hope this helps.

Also, the worst thing you can possibly do is continue trading like that because it’s a never-ending cycle. My sister tried getting me into that sort of cycle with Xanax and I put a stop to it and then when she asked for some, I said I didn’t have any even though I did. Because the truth was that I didn’t have any – for her. Once that cycle starts it continues. Plus with methadone it can affect your heart.

Lastly, if you have real pain, and can avoid being taken off of oxycodone, I would advise it. Because once they get you off, trying to get back on might be near impossible. A friend of mine wanted to take a break from them and took some Subutex, but then found the pain was too much And the doctor treated her like complete crap and would not prescribe opiates that she had been on prior (and it was the same Pain Management Dr! Made no sense… She literally had to get some procedure done before he would put her back on meds). So just be careful.Good luck

 

[oxyloxy]

Oh+++ and chewing the oxycodone or crushing it up. But I found just biting into it and then taking GFJ works great without having to take all the other stuff

 

[mitemouse]

Hey everyone, this is my first ever post after reading BL info for probably 20 years. Hence, I'm only a green lighter.
Okay so I've often found advice here on BL, and have read all the Qs and As.
I can't find a diffinative answer to the question im about to ask. My brief hx is thay I'm a 47yo female, appx 5'3", 63" or 1.9m. I am a bit too heavy foe my height, at 160lbs, 11.5 stone or 75.5ish kilo. I have the following scripts available to me right now, and on a continual basis, though my PCM (primary care) physician is hoping to wean me down. I'm rounding up/down EACH individual pill to the nearest pill for easier conversion).

Right now, I have as follows-

CONTROLLED or SCHEDULED in US:
15mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 3ea)
5mg Roxiocdone (oxycodone/(appx 130ea)
2mg Diazepam (valium/appx 80ea)
5mg Diazepam (valium/90ea)
75mg Pregabalin (Lyrica, 100ea)
150 Pregabalin (Lyrica, 180ea)
250mg Carisoprodol (Soma, 110 ea)

OTC or prescribed non-scheduled meds:
25mg Promethazine (phenegran/appx 300ea)
4mg Ondansetron (zophran, 30ea)
8mg Ondansetron (zophran, 90 ea)
100mg Topiramate (Topimax, 100 ea)
6mg Tizanidine (Zanaflex, 120ea)
200mg Quetiapine Fumarate (Seroquel, 300ea)
200mg Cimetidine (Tagament, 120ea)
6mg/.050mg Sumatriptan Auto-injectors
(Imiprex , 8ea)
20mg Duloxetine (Cymbalta, 100ea)
20mg Dicylomine (Bentyl, 40ea)
0.2mg Clonodine (Duraclon, 90ea)

And some randos:
Vitamin D?
THC/CBM gummies, Cycling Frog brand, 25mg THC/ 25mg CBD
25mg Red Maeng Da capsules (Kratom, 60ea)
1oz of loose red vein kratom
1oz of loose ground white vein kratom
1oz of loose green vein kratom
60mg 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (MP) pills (6ea)
White grapefruit juice (NOT blend)
AND a combo of USED Mylan brand, non-resevior type, fentanyl transdermal patches between 50mg, 25mg, and 12mg, used by only myself, for transdermal use as prescribed, between appx 14 and all 72 hours of prescribed use, all on the packaged plastic backs/foil outer seal for the adhesion to hopefully not disintegrate the meds contained within, all still sticky, and appx 40ea of various dosages.

So the harder part. Like I mentioned briefly, my NP (PCM) is talking about cutting down my scripts. I've been on them appx 18 months. Initially, I was on most the scripts I listed above for appx 7 years, except narcotic pain relief and Soma sporatically. 18-14 months ago, I was on 50mg fentanyl patches, 85tmg oxy. 13-11 months ago, 25mg fentanyl patch and 75mg oxy. Now, I'm on no patch and 75mg oxy. I've been taking all 75mg oxy daily since then, She added Soma 4 weeks ago, 375mg 4x a day.

Problem is, this guy I know is an addict, and he got into my oxy a few months ago. So Ive been continuously short... but HE'S on methadone (225mg/day), so when he takes my oxy, he backfills me with 30mg of methadone a day. Which is great (for me) to stop the withdrawals from opiates for a good 24 hours, but It doesn't help my pain, and then HE'S short HIS meds and I have to give him some of my oxy to help him, and the cycle just going on, ya know?

Now my doctor has added the Soma and wants me to drop the oxy, but I'll be SO SHORT and am hoping to find out how to know how to potentiate every last bit I have. I have 17 days till I get 90ea 15mg oxy, but now HES sick again, and needs help stretching the few oxy I have left with his being 3 days short on his methadone- he picks up 3 week's worth in 6 days.
SOOO, how do I make my oxy try and last me the whole 17 days without taking HIS methadone when he gets a refill and Continuing this vicious cycle? How can HE potentiate the methadone/oxy scripts to help him from becoming more sick/not stumbling because of a Soma overdo? I know tagament, WGFJ, and DXM can all help, but how much (I've read 1 gram of Tagament, 45 minutes to an hour before a fatty meal and then the oxy/methadone.)

I've done 4ea 15mg tabs of DXM in the past to extend my script, but they make me VERY tired). GFJ has never helped me, but i drink it daily anyway... How much of the other two are recommended? For me and for him? He IS a recovering addict, and has taken like 40ea Soma every 12-24 hours last time he was sick, but I was literally feeding him and taking him to the bathroom to pee,.. he was shaking so badly, and I know they can result in seizures... plz no advise that I should no longer be loving towards him, okay?

In case you're curiois, I DO uave a huge, insane stock of meds. I know Im very lucky in this respect. I'm also a US military retiree, have some in-service and non- service-connected injuries- and being in during 9/11, some typical PTSD BS, but ALSO very documented and diagnosed, chronic panic attacks and dissociative disorder.

I say this because I had Ketamine administered IM because they couldn't establish a vein after a spiral comminuted humerus fracture, 4x IM leg injections cuz they were outta pain meds, and I SERIOUSLY freaked out, it was like an old-timey Pink Floyd video from the 80s in the worse context, lol. I never have used IV before, but am tempted to at this moment, and my friend could help me with it aince he's experienced, and I'm not, and frankly, Im just kinda not interested unless it'll seriously help with pain relief, amd intenaity and LONGEVITY of the meds. I'm NOT that interested i vgetting a high, only relief and any avoidance of withdrawls. I HAVE tried snorting a couple 15mg oxy last script in vain attempts of stop being sick, but didnt help. Ive never parachuted anything and dont even know how.

As I said, any and all advise will be SO APPRECIATED! Thanks so much either way

I am overwhelmed by the kind words and advise. I tried to make an edit to my original post, but cant seem to figure it out.
My original post was about 4x lo ger than what I edited down, and I left out some key info, so Im trying (and hoping) to include it now, and will reply to everyone noting the edit.
I didnt wanna throw anyone under the bus, per se. The "friend" is my husband. He is an active addict; I love him dearly despite this, and were doing strong 20 years and counting. I am NOT looking to get "high", i have legit pain and am trying to make do with whatever pain meds and muscle relaxers and benzoyl for pa ic attacks I deal with daily.
So here's the unabridged story, its kinda long, so please bear with me.
I had a spiral comutated compound humerus fracture in late Feb/early March of 2020, right before COVID really hit the states. I have a titaium rod, several screws and a "cage" to hold the cadaver dust and bits and pieces of my bone. It extends from my shoulder to my elbow, and I have a big ol scar running the length. I was on pain meds for appx 2 years, but he always got into them, so I was frequently short. He might be an addict but hes not an asshole, and he was on Suboxone at the time, and would give me appx 1/10 of an 8mg strip each day i was out to ease the physical dependency so I wouldnt be "dope sick". I couldnt do PT/OT because the world shut down, so I have limited mobility to this day.
I had an IVF egg retrieval about a year before that, 10 months. The fertility doctor knicked an artery, I internally bled, my belly swelled up as if I was 8 months pregnant, and finally after around 14 hours post-op I finally let my my husband take me to the ER. I was life flighted to a hospital about 6 hours away and had emergency surgery, they sucked out over 2 LITERS (not pints, liters) of blood, it was horribly painful, was in ICU for appx 2 weeks and heavily sedated/given diluted/fentanyl etc and scripts to go home with. I was on pain meds foe appx 3-4 months. Same story with the meds. Stolen, backfilled with subconscious.
Last incident was a C3/C4/C5 fusion. Was supposed to have artificial disc replacement. Once the nuerosurgeon got in there, it was much worse than imaging had showed, so he had to perform an old timey fusion. He had to place 2 titaium spacers in each level filled with cadaver dust, amd had to "tap" them in. I guess they were badly compressed, so C3 went i okay, but when C4 and C5 were tapped in, my vertebrae fractured. I woke up from anesthesia in ago using pain and couldnt feel my right arm. I have terrible pain. I was prescribed 95mg of oxy (my doctor's was willing to go up to 120mg, but i truly am not looking for a "high"- believe it or not, im kinda scared of medications. And 50mcg fentanyl patches. Which promptly were stolen, backfilled with his new medication, methadone at 20 to 30mg (i dont know the exact formulation, ive read theres different mixtures) and 8mg of zanaflex 4x a day. When i had the meds I was prescribed before they "disappeared", i could function, albeit with some pain. But I was generally okay if I wore the neck brace and rested.
I have NEVER taken more meds than prescribed, except for when I had a couple family emergencies 3 states away amd had to drive (he doesn't have a driver's license) BUT I called my PCMand she gave me the okay to occasionally take a bit more, 10-15mg more a day.
Had appendicitis, but appendix was hiding behind my liver and adhered to my bowels, bowel and artery knicked, fell septic

 

[mitemouse]

ANYWAY this is very very long and i apologize. She just changed me from the zanaflex cuz all it does it make me sleepy, I can function on soma. And yes, soma is available in the US, at least in my area of north-central PA. But I had 405 pills to be taken as 1.5 250mg tabs 4x a day.
Yes, I hide.my pills, but theyre always either found or the begging and crying and guilt trips get me every time. I bought some CBD/THC gunmies when I was in NY and they seemed to help some, like not actual pain relief but I kinda dont CARE so much about the pain and I feel a bit like my old self, happy and carefree-ish- there were 10, but THEYVE gone missing. I have the phenegran for gastroparesis, and I bought the tagament after reading BL on here. Also bought the Red Maeng Da Kratom to hopefully help because Im gonna be very short on ocy again this.month.
I managed too squirrel away appx 60 250mg Soma that have not been found. I dont get a refill for 2.5 months. He took the rest of them, appx 50 per day, and shook, couldnt walk nor feed himself, it was a shit show.
I have 27 5mg oxy until my refil of 15mg oxy in exactly 7 days. Ive taken 10mg today so far, and its 7am. I also took 2 kratom capsules, and am hoping they dont cancel each other out. I have a script for 0.2mg clonodine (which he hates, so no issues there) and and 0.5mg diazqpam ready at the pharmacy, but he did a run and now i only have 24 bucks in my acct so idk when I can get them. I DO have some like 3yo 0.2mg mg diazapam, appx 50, that area also squirreled away, that I can take. I also have tagament.
I just happen to like grapefruit juice, lol, the white gfj, so I have been drinking that for appx 20 years. I HATE the seltzer water stuff, I have a bunch of GI issues, and it messes with me too much to get any benefit. I just throw it up along with any meds I take.
I want to thank each and every person for your very kind and thoughtful replies, im very touched and appreciative. Yes, I am 100% physically dependant on some of this stuff, but its hard for me to call myself an ADDICT at this point, because drugs scare me and I only take ehat im prescribed as prescribed, and honestly my doctor's is the one that suggests the meds, ive never asked for anything other than zophran and protonix. He will totally give me a few mg of hisethadone because its this vicious cycle of him taking my stuff, getting high and sometimes violent, coming outta it and feeling terrible and worthless, and then trying and me ha ing to console him, him giving me his methadone but then HES short and I have to give him more than half of my oxy to not be sick (hes on 225mg a day) and it just keeps happening over and over and I am so over it. So I need any advice to help, if anyone can help?
Right now my meds are hidden in my bra, lol, ive hidden them all over the house and theyre always found. I hope this new hiding spit will work, theres so few pills they dont create a lump, and its a sports bra, so fingers crossed. Im so sorry I didnt explain the situation better to begin with. I appreciate everyone's input, you guys are the bestest!

 

[mitemouse]

Oh+++ and chewing the oxycodone or crushing it up. But I found just biting into it and then taking GFJ works great without having to take all the other stuff

Thank-you so much, I couldnt figure out how to edit my original post so I just replied to myself, lol, I did chew and do the sublingual thing this morning. If youre so inclinded to read my edit id really appreciate i!

 

[mitemouse]

Oh+++ and chewing the oxycodone or crushing it up. But I found just biting into it and then taking GFJ works great without having to take all the other stuff

Okay, ill give it a go. Thanks for the advice. I dont now how to edit my original post so I replied to myself, lol, if you have time to peruse it and make any other suggestions, id be eternally grateful. Thanks so much for your time!

 

[mitemouse]

I have heard Soma potentiates it big time. I’m surprised that you have it, because it is not available as far as I know in the US. The closest I can get is Zanaflex and I use that for sleep.

I wrote a whole long post about this that probably nobody read, but grapefruit juice when you are taking the oxy, both a couple gulps before, then drink it down with it, and then a gulp or two after, and that should potentiate really well.

I remember someone here once had posted the perfect formula and it was something like T -45 minutes drink a bunch of grapefruit juice, then drink seltzer water with quinine, then t-30 take Coricidin HBP coffin, cold, along with tag me, and about 10 minutes before take some Tums

I used to do that, but then I found that it was entirely unnecessary. Taking my OXY with my grapefruit juice potentiates it very well without having to add on all the other stuff. But you need to take it with the medication and it needs to be the type that’s either white or in my avatar above. I drink the one in my avatar above because they stopped carrying the pure white grapefruit juice. Hope this helps.

Also, the worst thing you can possibly do is continue trading like that because it’s a never-ending cycle. My sister tried getting me into that sort of cycle with Xanax and I put a stop to it and then when she asked for some, I said I didn’t have any even though I did. Because the truth was that I didn’t have any – for her. Once that cycle starts it continues. Plus with methadone it can affect your heart.

Lastly, if you have real pain, and can avoid being taken off of oxycodone, I would advise it. Because once they get you off, trying to get back on might be near impossible. A friend of mine wanted to take a break from them and took some Subutex, but then found the pain was too much And the doctor treated her like complete crap and would not prescribe opiates that she had been on prior (and it was the same Pain Management Dr! Made no sense… She literally had to get some procedure done before he would put her back on meds). So just be careful.Good luck

That was such a thoughtful and caring response. I appreciate what you said, and im taking it very seriously. Im sorry your sister and your friend experienced thqt, thats total bullshit. I dont know how to edit my own post so I replied to my original post, if you have the time and I clinician, id love if you could read it. And I know im playing with fire, and I truly am trying to stop this. I think I may jave explained it a bit better in my reply to myself. Thank-you again so much for being so candid with me!

 

[mitemouse]

Sublingual Oxycodone is no where near as effective as crushing (Oxycodone HCl instant release) and placing under the tongue to dissolve. I would try this first.

I am not sure how much Cimetidine will increase the effects of Oxycodone 5mg. There is only one way to find out. I suggest drinking GFJ and taking Cimetidine 25-30 minutes before the Oxycodone. Right before taking the Oxycodone take 2-3qty Tums. There are a few steroids we can take with the Oxycodone to help more cross the BBB.

I would try things I mentioned in the order listed. Then dissolve the Oxycodone under the tongue. You will absorb more active ingredient directly into the bloodstream. This will help in losing less active ingredient from first-pass metabolism.

All of these drugs increase the effects of opioids and/or opioids increase the effects of these drugs :
-- Clonidine or Zanaflex = "Alpha-2 Receptor" *** safe to minor risk ***
-- Ativan, Xanax, or Clonazepam = "Benzo" *** medium to dangerous ***
-- Lunesta or Ambien = Z-Drugs "non-benzo" sedative & hypnotic *** medium risk ***
-- Promethazine or Vistaril PAM (Hydroxyzine pamoate) = Rx Antihistamine "sedative properties" *** safest ***
-- Cyclobenzaprine = Muscle Relaxer *** medium risk ***
-- Gabapentin or Lyrica = anticonvulsant *** safe ***
-- Phenobarbital or Butalbital = Barbituates *** very dangerous. causes sustained bradycardia and CNS depression ***
-- Haloperidol, Quetiapine, or Risperidone = Antipsychotics *** medium risk ***
-- Droperidol = rapid tranquilizer, antipsychotic, strong sedative *** very dangerous ***


On the natural side, Valerian Root Extract (630mg per 1mL), Kava Kava Extract,

Wow, thqt is very in depth, im not 100% sure of everything youre saying, but ill do more research to try to understand.
I truly appreciate the time you spent explaining that to me, I guess im just a bit naive.
I dont know how to edit my original post, so I replied to my own post. If you have time and feel like it, I think I explained my situation better, maybe I made more sense, idk.
But thank-you so much even if you dont read and reply back. And thanks so much for not judging me!

 

[mitemouse]

Ya I can't really judge but seems like you're addicted more than it's helping you now

I totally understand where youre coming from. Maybe i AM an addict, but ive never taken more meds than prescribed, never asked for any meds except for zophrqn and protonix for some kinda gnarly GI issues, but I totally didnt express myself the way I intended to the first time. I tried to edit my post but couldnt figure it out, so I replied to my own post. Maybe if you feel so inclined you can read my reply to myself. If not, I truly appreciate your advice. I know physical dependency to addiction can be a slippery slope, so I appreciate it. Thank-you for your adgice!!!!