• DC Moderators: ghostfreak | VerbalTruist

๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ Social ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ How High Are You? V. The Height of Sophistication

Some times, if you can get them to focus on anything other than sex long enough to do anything else.
I have known people like this but it's definitely like, 1/5 or fewer of people I know who use meth habitually in my personal experience.

OT: 2.5mg per RoA (oral and intranasal) of M-amp, 250mg of Bupropion (100 IR 150 XR), hitting the MDMB-4en-PINACA box mod a little bit, then I couldn't find my scale and I did a few sizeable bumps of floribut. Oh, and 100mg of THC-O. It's like being super stoned, stimulated, and sedated all at once, as if all three experiences have been braided together to form one cohesive thing.
 
I have known people like this but it's definitely like, 1/5 or fewer of people I know who use meth habitually in my personal experience.

OT: 2.5mg per RoA (oral and intranasal) of M-amp, 250mg of Bupropion (100 IR 150 XR), hitting the MDMB-4en-PINACA box mod a little bit, then I couldn't find my scale and I did a few sizeable bumps of floribut. Oh, and 100mg of THC-O. It's like being super stoned, stimulated, and sedated all at once, as if all three experiences have been braided together to form one cohesive thing.
What effects do you have from MDMB-4en-PINACA ? Do you like pass out a bit or are you like tripping ? What about wds ? do you get pinaca sick if you don't smoke any ?

OT:
4g green kratom + 20mg diazepam
exercise
Kush weed
then 3hours later I made myself a little drinkable cocktail : 3g red kratom + 10mg methylphenidate crushed + 150mg pregabaline powder + lime
 
I have known people like this but it's definitely like, 1/5 or fewer of people I know who use meth habitually in my personal experience.

OT: 2.5mg per RoA (oral and intranasal) of M-amp, 250mg of Bupropion (100 IR 150 XR), hitting the MDMB-4en-PINACA box mod a little bit, then I couldn't find my scale and I did a few sizeable bumps of floribut. Oh, and 100mg of THC-O. It's like being super stoned, stimulated, and sedated all at once, as if all three experiences have been braided together to form one cohesive thing.
How do you find fluorophenibut compared to regular phenibut or compared to pregabalin?
 
I'm "moertoe gerook " ๐Ÿคฃ

Did really smoked much all today so on my way home from work I picked some Triple Diesel GH and smoke a gram through my herb vape and fuck yeah nice... also had .1ml RSO Skittlzes. Munchies kicking in ๐Ÿคค
 
What effects do you have from MDMB-4en-PINACA ? Do you like pass out a bit or are you like tripping ? What about wds ? do you get pinaca sick if you don't smoke any ?
It's like a short lasting, PCP-flavored cannabinoid if that makes sense. In very high doses aggressively smoked, a breakthrough akin to DMT or PCP breakthroughs can occur which is neat. I don't pass out from it like you do from some of the other hyperpotent cannabinoids. I haven't experienced any withdrawals or dependency yet, no pinaca sickness or anything. HHC, THC and THC-O all still absolutely beat my ass as if I'm not consuming anything that induces a cannabinoid tolerance, it's quite strange. My cap for MDMB-4en-PINACA has gone up over time, as I've been able to consume more of it without getting the spins that you might get from a 3,000mg edible or dabbing 1.5-2 grams of rosin with no tolerance, nowadays MDMB-4en-PINACA is also harder to break through on though because I decided that if a smoking mix is potent enough to induce the kinds of profound and mystical breakthroughs I was experiencing, it's probably a little too strong, so I whipped up a shit-ton of vape juice that's far lower in concentration, ~78ug/mL iirc. Breaking down a gram of MDMB-4en-PINACA into an oral tincture to test out, vape juice and damiana/sinicuichi based smoking mixes felt like working with something else hyperpotent, like etizolam. A real "Man, I REALLY better not fuck this up" kind of vibe, you know?

MDMB-4en-PINACA has been combined with almost every psychedelic I've used in the last 9 months, and it has a great time potentiating things, the past two nights I've used two box mods in alternation, one containing 25E-NBOH at a 7.5mg/mL potency, and one containing MDMB-4en-PINACA at a 78ug/mL potency. The way that the grass glows a supernaturally neon green with that combination is quite interesting, and it possesses far more headspace than 25B-NBOH, about on par with 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe imo. Some experiences with just MDMB-4en-PINACA though from those stronger infusions would cause swirling gem stones to encapsulate me, locking me in my body for 5-10 seconds as the world around me reformed, like what happens when you smoke WAY too much [3-HO/3-MeO]-PCP in too short of a period of time. I once watched a tree that must've been 40' tall or more (12-ish meters) and sort of Y shaped with two diagonal branches at the top, fold over and walk away using those two top branches as legs. A chain link fence once perfectly unwound and slowly levitated into the heavens. One time I just saw probably 100+ people in white robes/masks with a black triangle over their face, resembling a scene from the 2016 film The Void. Overall it's an interesting compound, but I likely won't use any synthetic cannabinoids until I'm able to self-produce or network with the chemist directly, because I'm after some stranger ones that have a generally "trippier" feeling.
How do you find fluorophenibut compared to regular phenibut or compared to pregabalin?
Floribut is significantly more potent by weight, maybe something like 2-4x potency based on if we're considering phenibut existing as FAA vs. HCl. Floribut is specifically more euphoric, it hits within maybe an hour and doesn't last longer than 6 or so, maybe 8 hours in dangerously high doses. Floribut is also by far the most caustic chemical I've ever put in my nose, it makes 2C-B feel minty and refreshing somehow. I find floribut more useful as a recreational sedative, as well as having some peculiar empathogenic/stimulant-y elements that place it somewhere closer to GHB than phenibut in my personal schema of how drug effects land based on structure-activity-relationships and my own subjective neurochemistry.
moertoe gerook
Afrikaans for "cross-faded" (drunk & stoned), yeah?

OT: Second night in a row of using counterfeit Adderall (5mg of M-amp), some vaporized MDMB-4en-PINACA, vaporized 25E-NBOH, and earlier some maintenance meds that consisted of 100mg of THC-O tincture, 12.5mg of promethazine, 150mg of bupropion XR, and 200mg of caffeine. Think I may take a break from the M-amp today, 7 hours of sleep in 3 days and 2 nights but still feeling fine is in no way good for me.
 
It's like a short lasting, PCP-flavored cannabinoid if that makes sense. In very high doses aggressively smoked, a breakthrough akin to DMT or PCP breakthroughs can occur which is neat. I don't pass out from it like you do from some of the other hyperpotent cannabinoids. I haven't experienced any withdrawals or dependency yet, no pinaca sickness or anything. HHC, THC and THC-O all still absolutely beat my ass as if I'm not consuming anything that induces a cannabinoid tolerance, it's quite strange. My cap for MDMB-4en-PINACA has gone up over time, as I've been able to consume more of it without getting the spins that you might get from a 3,000mg edible or dabbing 1.5-2 grams of rosin with no tolerance, nowadays MDMB-4en-PINACA is also harder to break through on though because I decided that if a smoking mix is potent enough to induce the kinds of profound and mystical breakthroughs I was experiencing, it's probably a little too strong, so I whipped up a shit-ton of vape juice that's far lower in concentration, ~78ug/mL iirc. Breaking down a gram of MDMB-4en-PINACA into an oral tincture to test out, vape juice and damiana/sinicuichi based smoking mixes felt like working with something else hyperpotent, like etizolam. A real "Man, I REALLY better not fuck this up" kind of vibe, you know?

MDMB-4en-PINACA has been combined with almost every psychedelic I've used in the last 9 months, and it has a great time potentiating things, the past two nights I've used two box mods in alternation, one containing 25E-NBOH at a 7.5mg/mL potency, and one containing MDMB-4en-PINACA at a 78ug/mL potency. The way that the grass glows a supernaturally neon green with that combination is quite interesting, and it possesses far more headspace than 25B-NBOH, about on par with 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe imo. Some experiences with just MDMB-4en-PINACA though from those stronger infusions would cause swirling gem stones to encapsulate me, locking me in my body for 5-10 seconds as the world around me reformed, like what happens when you smoke WAY too much [3-HO/3-MeO]-PCP in too short of a period of time. I once watched a tree that must've been 40' tall or more (12-ish meters) and sort of Y shaped with two diagonal branches at the top, fold over and walk away using those two top branches as legs. A chain link fence once perfectly unwound and slowly levitated into the heavens. One time I just saw probably 100+ people in white robes/masks with a black triangle over their face, resembling a scene from the 2016 film The Void. Overall it's an interesting compound, but I likely won't use any synthetic cannabinoids until I'm able to self-produce or network with the chemist directly, because I'm after some stranger ones that have a generally "trippier" feeling.

Thank you for your answer,

I never had the pure version you mention, only unknown dosage sprayed on plant material, that I had to cut down with cannabis leaves, as rolling it as weed was insanely hazardous/dangerous and totally unknown molecule.. Despite many warnings, some smoked it as big joints, 3 tokes and down to the floor, people making really strange facial expression . A bit scary from the outside. Thankfully it's short lived yet the rush can be quite scary and immobilizing. From my memories it matches with what you are describing so well. To me it was a bit salva/DMT like with the physical effects of a strong dissociative. All the users of it were well experienced in psychedelics yet shit was strong as fuck. Crazy visuals you are describing. I think you are quite tough because frankly that stuff is very strong but I believe that if well dosed it could be quite enjoyable.,
I remember well it's short lived. Some time ago, smoked some first thing waking up , to actually feel the effect, while waiting for that stupid coke dealer, I just had few tokes. Shit hit me hard, I had to sit down for a good ten or twenty minutes I am not sure, I enjoyed without loving it either ... at least it stopped any wd or craving I was experiencing. poorly timed though as the guy was already there and blowing my phone... I finally went out and suddenly was very persuasive to get myself fronted some more while turning the thing the other way arguing with him.. "your coke is shit, I waited for you all night" all that shit lol . huge confidence boost afterwards I recall, PCP like stuff. maybe not related.
Can you feel tolerance growing ? I kinda get your vibe man
The mixes you are creating are inspiring but damn... frankly not doable by anyone, take care !

OT :
5g green kratom
17,5mg diazepam
Sativa
Black Tea
Kush

150mg pregabaline
a 50 cl 5 percent beer
a cigarette
5g red kratom
50 mg hydroxyzine
More kush

Didnt do any amph or mph today, or big dose of pregabaline. I got some anxiety reboung from alprazolam but otherwise feeling good !

Cheers bluelight
 
Afrikaans for "cross-faded" (drunk & stoned), yeah?

OT: Second night in a row of using counterfeit Adderall (5mg of M-amp), some vaporized MDMB-4en-PINACA, vaporized 25E-NBOH, and earlier some maintenance meds that consisted of 100mg of THC-O tincture, 12.5mg of promethazine, 150mg of bupropion XR, and 200mg of caffeine. Think I may take a break from the M-amp today, 7 hours of sleep in 3 days and 2 nights but still feeling fine is in no way good for me.
Yeah almost except I don't drink anymore so more on side of totally faded AF of the cannabis lol
 
It's like a short lasting, PCP-flavored cannabinoid if that makes sense. In very high doses aggressively smoked, a breakthrough akin to DMT or PCP breakthroughs can occur which is neat. I don't pass out from it like you do from some of the other hyperpotent cannabinoids. I haven't experienced any withdrawals or dependency yet, no pinaca sickness or anything. HHC, THC and THC-O all still absolutely beat my ass as if I'm not consuming anything that induces a cannabinoid tolerance, it's quite strange. My cap for MDMB-4en-PINACA has gone up over time, as I've been able to consume more of it without getting the spins that you might get from a 3,000mg edible or dabbing 1.5-2 grams of rosin with no tolerance, nowadays MDMB-4en-PINACA is also harder to break through on though because I decided that if a smoking mix is potent enough to induce the kinds of profound and mystical breakthroughs I was experiencing, it's probably a little too strong, so I whipped up a shit-ton of vape juice that's far lower in concentration, ~78ug/mL iirc. Breaking down a gram of MDMB-4en-PINACA into an oral tincture to test out, vape juice and damiana/sinicuichi based smoking mixes felt like working with something else hyperpotent, like etizolam. A real "Man, I REALLY better not fuck this up" kind of vibe, you know?

MDMB-4en-PINACA has been combined with almost every psychedelic I've used in the last 9 months, and it has a great time potentiating things, the past two nights I've used two box mods in alternation, one containing 25E-NBOH at a 7.5mg/mL potency, and one containing MDMB-4en-PINACA at a 78ug/mL potency. The way that the grass glows a supernaturally neon green with that combination is quite interesting, and it possesses far more headspace than 25B-NBOH, about on par with 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe imo. Some experiences with just MDMB-4en-PINACA though from those stronger infusions would cause swirling gem stones to encapsulate me, locking me in my body for 5-10 seconds as the world around me reformed, like what happens when you smoke WAY too much [3-HO/3-MeO]-PCP in too short of a period of time. I once watched a tree that must've been 40' tall or more (12-ish meters) and sort of Y shaped with two diagonal branches at the top, fold over and walk away using those two top branches as legs. A chain link fence once perfectly unwound and slowly levitated into the heavens. One time I just saw probably 100+ people in white robes/masks with a black triangle over their face, resembling a scene from the 2016 film The Void. Overall it's an interesting compound, but I likely won't use any synthetic cannabinoids until I'm able to self-produce or network with the chemist directly, because I'm after some stranger ones that have a generally "trippier" feeling.
Synth noids always fascinate me a little bit, crazy how full agonists of the cannabinoid receptor create such wild experiences. I guess comparing weed to synth noids would be like comparing kratom to fentanyl.

I only smoked synth noids โ€spiceโ€ 3 times so unfortunately Ill never know which one(s) I smoked. It was never particularly pleasant any of the times I tried it. First time id say it felt like a super potent weed but with some aspects of LSD and chewed salvia, except much more disorienting, almost no euphoria and super intense nausea to the point where I threw up 4 times. I was laid out on the street puking ๐Ÿ˜…

The other 2 times it felt like a weed high mixed with all the side effects of stimulants, very rapid heartbeat, shakiness, tense muscles, anxiety and on top of it felt like a slight nitrous buzz is the only way I can describe it. We were 4 people who smoked it and we all agreed on the nitrous like sensation, strangeโ€ฆ

And after seeing a video my friend sent me of him crying, shaking and throwing up in a detox center from spice withdrawal I never had any interest to pursue synth noids again ๐Ÿ˜… (I would have tried the JWH-family though)
 
Buzz from thc vape, a few 10mg Valium. Feeling good, Friday vibes. Tonight 3.5 mushrooms & 2 tabs lsd or candyflip or just roll.
 
vaporized 25E-NBOH
How is that by the way ?

OT:

5g kratom +20mg diazepam
kush
7,5mg adderall + 0.5mg alprazolam SL
sativa
Rhum 2 drinks +Coffee+ cigarrete

300mg pregabline
Kush and more kratom
More rhum and weed

Feeling well gonna dose some hydroxyzine
 
How is that by the way ?
It's quite unique, so far I've only insufflated 25E-NBOH crystals I cut with caffeine, and vaporized it, whereas all other 25X-NBXX's I've used (25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe and 25B-NBOH) have been administered via a sublingual route of administration. Insufflated 25E-NBOH was a unique experience from vaporizing it, I'll try to do a rundown on each.

Insufflated 25E-NBOH induced an experience that reminded me heavily of 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe, the sort of hyperstimulating psychedelia that reminded me of coadministering LSD and methamphetamine. It took a half hour or so to come up, and over that period I began to experience light bruxism and my leg was jumping as if it was at a music festival, but the rest of my body was no more stimulated than having drank a cup or two of coffee. By the 45-60 minute mark, the psychedelia is obviously coming on, and it'll evolve for another 5-6 hours before tapering off quickly, leaving only a half hour or so of residual stimulation. The psychedelic elements of insufflating 25E-NBOH are super unique, the visuals look like nothing else I've ever touched, almost resembling neon graffiti that casts itself upon the textures of what you can see, at some points levitating clean off, rotating to be visible to you, and communicating messages relevant to whatever you're thinking about. Sometimes it looked more like formal Arabic writing, as you'd see written on a flag or in an ancient mural. There was a stunning amount of texture distortion going on, reminding me of 2C-B over 35mg or LSD over 750ug (10 average tabs off the street), the woodgrain was flowing like river rapids, and the screen of my phone was holographically levitating above the material object that is the phone, with an odd shimmer to it that looked like a silver powderized metal being levitated by an acoustic speaker almost, with each granule moving at its own rather speedy pace. The consistent theme of this drug via either RoA is that it is intensely psychedeilc, and everything moves fast as fuck. The headspace with intranasal administration was more profound than when it's vaporized, but vaporized 25E-NBOH still has a solid amount.

Vaporized 25E-NBOH was much more of an entactogenic experience, giving me "molly skin" almost immediately, tempting me to roll around on the carpet shirtless or pick up an ice cube just to feel how shockingly cold ice has suddenly become. The visuals are much more of a neon hypersaturation on everything I can see, but for some reason especially green and dark blues. Cyan looks almost muted through vaporized 25E-NBOH, and I'm not quite sure why. This RoA is somehow even more stimulating than insufflation, but I've mixed it with methamphetamine, caffeine and bupropion all in tandem a handful of times and it's not been overwhelming in any way. 25E-NBOH is also less visually intense when vaporized, I won't see symbols peeling off the walls to float right in front of me or anything like that, but I will certainly experience a slowed-down version of the texture distortions, tracers are significantly more intense with vaporization, and I can modulate my visuals by changing how much my other senses are experiencing, in a way that reminds me heavily of LSD. Overall, this drug is very acidlike, though still distinctly a 25X-NBXX in nature. The sensory-visual relationship is such that when outside on a humid night, versus inside in a chilly room, or wearing a bathrobe versus work clothing, etc. can all noticeably and immediately shift the nature of the visual experience in ways that few other psychedelics will do, most others will maintain a consistent visual character relative to the intensity of the experience at any given time, whereas LSD, 25E-NBOH, allylescaline, miprocin and N,N-DiPT will all vary extremely heavily by set and setting, all with an immediacy unparalleled, perhaps taking 10-15 seconds at the longest to catch up to changes in set and/or setting.

Hope that's a useful rundown, if you have any other questions lmk.
 
It's quite unique, so far I've only insufflated 25E-NBOH crystals I cut with caffeine, and vaporized it, whereas all other 25X-NBXX's I've used (25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe and 25B-NBOH) have been administered via a sublingual route of administration. Insufflated 25E-NBOH was a unique experience from vaporizing it, I'll try to do a rundown on each.

Insufflated 25E-NBOH induced an experience that reminded me heavily of 25C-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe, the sort of hyperstimulating psychedelia that reminded me of coadministering LSD and methamphetamine. It took a half hour or so to come up, and over that period I began to experience light bruxism and my leg was jumping as if it was at a music festival, but the rest of my body was no more stimulated than having drank a cup or two of coffee. By the 45-60 minute mark, the psychedelia is obviously coming on, and it'll evolve for another 5-6 hours before tapering off quickly, leaving only a half hour or so of residual stimulation. The psychedelic elements of insufflating 25E-NBOH are super unique, the visuals look like nothing else I've ever touched, almost resembling neon graffiti that casts itself upon the textures of what you can see, at some points levitating clean off, rotating to be visible to you, and communicating messages relevant to whatever you're thinking about. Sometimes it looked more like formal Arabic writing, as you'd see written on a flag or in an ancient mural. There was a stunning amount of texture distortion going on, reminding me of 2C-B over 35mg or LSD over 750ug (10 average tabs off the street), the woodgrain was flowing like river rapids, and the screen of my phone was holographically levitating above the material object that is the phone, with an odd shimmer to it that looked like a silver powderized metal being levitated by an acoustic speaker almost, with each granule moving at its own rather speedy pace. The consistent theme of this drug via either RoA is that it is intensely psychedeilc, and everything moves fast as fuck. The headspace with intranasal administration was more profound than when it's vaporized, but vaporized 25E-NBOH still has a solid amount.

Vaporized 25E-NBOH was much more of an entactogenic experience, giving me "molly skin" almost immediately, tempting me to roll around on the carpet shirtless or pick up an ice cube just to feel how shockingly cold ice has suddenly become. The visuals are much more of a neon hypersaturation on everything I can see, but for some reason especially green and dark blues. Cyan looks almost muted through vaporized 25E-NBOH, and I'm not quite sure why. This RoA is somehow even more stimulating than insufflation, but I've mixed it with methamphetamine, caffeine and bupropion all in tandem a handful of times and it's not been overwhelming in any way. 25E-NBOH is also less visually intense when vaporized, I won't see symbols peeling off the walls to float right in front of me or anything like that, but I will certainly experience a slowed-down version of the texture distortions, tracers are significantly more intense with vaporization, and I can modulate my visuals by changing how much my other senses are experiencing, in a way that reminds me heavily of LSD. Overall, this drug is very acidlike, though still distinctly a 25X-NBXX in nature. The sensory-visual relationship is such that when outside on a humid night, versus inside in a chilly room, or wearing a bathrobe versus work clothing, etc. can all noticeably and immediately shift the nature of the visual experience in ways that few other psychedelics will do, most others will maintain a consistent visual character relative to the intensity of the experience at any given time, whereas LSD, 25E-NBOH, allylescaline, miprocin and N,N-DiPT will all vary extremely heavily by set and setting, all with an immediacy unparalleled, perhaps taking 10-15 seconds at the longest to catch up to changes in set and/or setting.

Hope that's a useful rundown, if you have any other questions lmk.
Thank you again for your very complete descriptions.
Yes I can relate with the visuals when insufflated compared to large doses of LSD or 2C-B, they are very impressive.

OT:
5g green kratom
20mg diazepam
kush
7,5mg adderral
150mg pregabaline
a beer
hash and sativa
 
Went out earlier, then did some cleaning, now just chilling. Staggered 1200mg gabapentin so far, dabbing GG#4 rosin and Green Crack sugar, and just poured my first Dr. Pepper and SKYY vodka of the afternoon. Feeling fine and not a damn thing left on the agenda today except food. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
 
5g green kratom + 20mg diazepam + very strong coffee + kush
was nodding off so a bit later 10mg dexamphetamine snorted

Then some beer, more kush 300mg pregabaline some red kratom, gonna have food

Dexamphetamine is an incredibly functional stim
 
Glass of red wine
150mg pregabalin
300mg bupropion XR
240mg methylphenidate
nicotine
3mg clonazepam
2.5mg abilify
60mg methadone

Guess I'll take 300mg more of pregabalin at least (or 450mg?) when the MPH starts to coming down
 
On maintenance with lyrica after quitting diazepam...so not high at all..20 days off Diaz..sleep patterns are screwed up totally...but almost all people around me are the same without any dependency...so not worried... mentally unstable,but man..been on this shit for 10 years..normal....painkillers-some shitty codeine pills..useless....fuck.this struggle is till grave.destiny
 
5g kratom
20mg diazepam
10mg methylphenidate
more kratom
weed and oil, rhum cocktails
10mg methylphenidate snorted
600mg pregabaline
 
found some meth that actually gets me high, i'm feeling pretty nice right about now!

drank some sake but obviously that isn't doing a ton

had a cute night at the club, djing and hosting an event
 
Just had a shot of meth that was ok and made me spew but was kinda average. Then a shot of heroin that pretty much sucked too.
Oh well. Such is life. I'm horny as fuck tho lol
 
Had to walk up to the corner store to get something for my sister.
Got half way there, before I realized I walked in the wrong direction from the beginning. ๐Ÿฅด
That high.
 
Top