Seeking Benzedrex users to share their experience with the drug

[Deleted member 592175]

The abuse potential with ppx (propylhexedrine) is astronomically low (unless you are completely insane) I have been doing this stuff for five years soaking one, sometimes two cottons, and doing that roughly every few months (for awhile it was every 1-2 weeks but that was at the beginning). A couple times I would get a mediocre extraction and try again a day later for my personal desired effect. The crash leaves you feeling like complete shit for a solid 3 days and tolerance builds up quick. No abuse potential. Redosing is not an option because of how disgusted you'll feel when it's over. It's too toxic to the brain for you to want to use it daily like a true crackhead. Nobody is doing this shit because they are getting a prescription for amphetamines.

Very few people are even aware of ppx unless you were already an amphetamine user. Personally I don't recommend it. Go to a psychiatrist and tell them you have trouble focusing or something. I do not have health insurance but it's not like I need a bunch of amphetamine pills anyway. I'm not using it for homework... at least not in a traditional sense.

 

[4DQSAR]

I've noted in the last couple of decades that some people will seek drugs with vastly different subjective activity e.g. someone who uses crack when they cannot obtain Spice BUT does not touch alcohol...

But it was only a couple of years ago that someone referred to themselves as a 'wreckhead' i.e. it's less the ASC a drug provides but rather that it IS an ASC.

I reallly think as a society we should be looking at this behavior and trying to figure out why if it's a terrible ASC or nothing... some will opt for the awful ASC.

I know in jails people will take stuff generally considered to have no street value but then I've noted people on release actively seeking such things. I mean Wellbutrin, olanzapine and so on. Stuff most people would avoid with good reason.

 

[Esperighanto]

I've noted in the last couple of decades that some people will seek drugs with vastly different subjective activity e.g. someone who uses crack when they cannot obtain Spice BUT does not touch alcohol...

But it was only a couple of years ago that someone referred to themselves as a 'wreckhead' i.e. it's less the ASC a drug provides but rather that it IS an ASC.

I reallly think as a society we should be looking at this behavior and trying to figure out why if it's a terrible ASC or nothing... some will opt for the awful ASC.

I know in jails people will take stuff generally considered to have no street value but then I've noted people on release actively seeking such things. I mean Wellbutrin, olanzapine and so on. Stuff most people would avoid with good reason.

I'm not going to lie, my Yankee eyes through a haze of 25E-NBOH can't make out 100% of this, but I'm curious about what your beef is with bupropion, that shit is a real stimulant from the looks of it. What is an ASC?

Exit: As somebody who has foolishly insufflated 450mg of IR Bupropion in the past, it's tough to tell it's not a club drug in that context with no tolerance. This could have easily killed via seizure, do not attempt to replicate.

 

[4DQSAR]

I'm not going to lie, my Yankee eyes through a haze of 25E-NBOH can't make out 100% of this, but I'm curious about what your beef is with bupropion, that shit is a real stimulant from the looks of it. What is an ASC?

Exit: As somebody who has foolishly insufflated 450mg of IR Bupropion in the past, it's tough to tell it's not a club drug in that context with no tolerance. This could have easily killed via seizure, do not attempt to replicate.

ASC - altered state of consciousness

I don't know much about Wellbutrin other than it's abuse seems limited to people whose options are limited. The side-effect profile making it unpopular otherwise, AFAIK. I'm highly dubious of the proposed metabolism, especially given the doses involved. I strongly suspect that removal of that bulky N-tert butyl moiety would produce a compound with a list of effects and side-effects I would expect. To whit (2R)-2-amino-1-(3-chlorophenyl)propan-1-one. It WOULD be a minor metabolite but I've been around medicinal chemistry long enough to know that people are happy to lie - as long as they don't get caught.

 

[Deleted member 507397]

Oh God, I LOVED this shit with my gd eating disorder. Id sit there spun out getting off on starving. Just staring around, biting my nail

 

[Esperighanto]

I don't know much about Wellbutrin other than it's abuse seems limited to people whose options are limited. The side-effect profile making it unpopular otherwise, AFAIK. I'm highly dubious of the proposed metabolism, especially given the doses involved. I strongly suspect that removal of that bulky N-tert butyl moiety would produce a compound with a list of effects and side-effects I would expect. To whit (2R)-2-amino-1-(3-chlorophenyl)propan-1-one. It WOULD be a minor metabolite but I've been around medicinal chemistry long enough to know that people are happy to lie - as long as they don't get caught.

This is interesting to me, I prefer Bupropion over amphetamine or meth when all three are available, but Ritalin can often scratch a bupropion itch in a way that's pretty unique.

I will give you that oral bupropion is pretty underwhelming compared to intranasal bupropion, that shit really feels unique and I suspect that first pass metabolism is playing a role there in the variable effects via changing RoA.

 

[4DQSAR]

This is interesting to me, I prefer Bupropion over amphetamine or meth when all three are available, but Ritalin can often scratch a bupropion itch in a way that's pretty unique.

I will give you that oral bupropion is pretty underwhelming compared to intranasal bupropion, that shit really feels unique and I suspect that first pass metabolism is playing a role there in the variable effects via changing RoA.

I just think some people (those it works best for) are the ones whose genetics means their livers N-dealkylates the stuff to meta chloro methcathinone.

Just out of interest I used PubChem to see if that compound is available to researchers - and it is. So WHY would that be the case if the makers of Wellbutrin absolutely claim that it isn't a metabolite.

Don't forget, there is an antidepressant on the market that is, in effect, simply acting as a prodrug for meta chloro benzylpiperizine.¬

But it certainly would not be financially expedient to admit that Wellbutrin is just a prodrug of a cathinone - especially after all of the negative attention cathinones have got in the last few years. I would be TRULY curious to know how nations such as Germany and Spain (I think both - but please, correct me), you can be found guilty of possession for having illegal drugs in your bloodstream! How would they deal with that compound?

Here in the UK people have been found guilty of driving under the influence of drugs because they had eaten poppy-seed bread!

 

[emkee_reinvented]

My name is Olivia, and I am a graduate student journalist at NYU. I am researching and writing a story on Benzedrex abuse for my investigative reporting class and am looking for people willing to share their experience -- positive or negative -- with the drug. Ideally, participants would be willing to share their names, but I'm also happy to have off-the-record conversations. The goal is to get an understanding of the drug, its impact, and its place in the OTC market. The deadline for the assignment is December 18. As of right now, it's just a class assignment, but I'm hoping to get it published if the final product is solid. I'll provide any updates if that happens. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I can be reached via direct messages on Bluelight or email at [email protected].

UPDATE 1/19/24: I submitted my class project but want to continue reporting on this, so I'm no longer working on the December 18 deadline... Please feel free to keep sharing experiences

If Propyhexedrine which is not OTC or prescribed here, if its a bit akin to 4-FA.
4-Fluoro-Amphetamine, imo a dirty very unpleasant Serotenergic, and after long duration stimulant.

Bought 4-FA once, never again. I am prescribed Dextro-Amphetamine.
4-FA has no place in medicine, i thinking for PropylHexedrine goes the same.
Inferior to Dextro-Amphetamine. Last resort.

 

[spypilot]

im a regular ppx user and i feel like its helped me a lot mentally and physically
people always talk abt the shitty comedown but doesnt rlly happen to me unless i take more than 2 cotton sticks