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I took 4g of Amphetamine

keftaboyzKoln

keftaboyzKoln

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Good morning, Yesterday I took amphetamine(snort) for the second time, and it didn't go very well... On Saturday at 10 PM, I took 2 Maserati Blue MDMA pills. On Sunday at 1 AM, I started speed and took 4 grams from 1 AM to 7 PM. Then I took a break for about 10 hours (5 AM) and took another 0.03g dose. I don't recommend it to anyone. I did it without being aware of the situation I was exposed to, and it's very dangerous.
Should I go to the doctor or won't it be a big problem? I feel fine.
 
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keftaboyzKoln said:
Good morning, Yesterday I took amphetamine for the second time, and it didn't go very well... On Saturday at 10 PM, I took 2 Maserati Blue MDMA pills. On Sunday at 1 AM, I started speed and took 4 grams from 1 AM to 7 PM. Then I took a break for about 10 hours (5 AM) and took another 0.03g dose. I don't recommend it to anyone. I did it without being aware of the situation I was exposed to, and it's very dangerous.
Should I go to the doctor or won't it be a big problem? I feel fine.
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I took It snorted
 
garygroundwork said:
if u feel fine u r fine

how was it?
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It was good. I was scared, but at no point did I feel close to death. My heart was racing every so often, but it was very controlled. I have to say I did it with my friend at home in a completely peaceful environment. On the night of the 25th, I used speed again from 7:00 PM to 4:00 AM. 1 gram during that entire time. It's a very, very good and very pure speed, and I feel like that's why I'm able to keep up this pace. What do you think? Because I've read many stories, and I feel like it shouldn't be possible for me to endure this the second time around. I've had three sleepless nights, and today I'll use a few in the afternoon.
 
4g means extremely impure. You'd be in hospital. 400mg would be a lot if its even 50%.
I've overdone it too and you just explained overdoing it by a bit. it's not pleasant
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
I can send you photos if you want so you can see how they sell it to me. You may be right, but I'd be surprised because it's liquid, and from what I've been searching for, it's impossible for it to be that curdled. I got it from a contact in Germany whose drugs I've already tried, like 2cb, and I can assure you they have very good stuff.
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It’s probably 4g by volume
 
I feel it worth noting that while plain amphetamine sulphate (and occassionally medical SKF5s i.e. dexamphetamine sulkphate) AND methamphetamine (both the raecamate and enantioprure product) are both available within Europe, I've noted that in the north and in the east methamphetamine is favoured, in the west and the south good old billy (whizz) is still what customers WANT.

Having tried all four, I have to admit, the difference is MUCH bigger than most people appear to understand. By a mile dexamphetamine is the best followed by raecemic amphetamine sulphate (and phosphate) but methamphetamine - that stuff seems in a totally differnt league when it comes to the harm it is capable of producing.

I've noted that until quite recently, BMK (common precursor to all four products) was being made in Russia and shipped west. The EMCDDA even noted a common impurity so could trace where the BMK was made. For anyone interested, it appears Russian producers were (are?) using MTBE (methyl tert butyl ether) as solvent and they begin with the chloromethylation of benzene and onward to PMK. But the impure MTBE contains I know not what, but it added a para methoxy moiety to a small fraction of the BMK.

The fact that nobody identified the impurity and so those making amphetamines had no way of knowing that in tandem with Russians setting up 'speed factories' all over the EU which substituted pyrex for stainless steel meant I could take one look at the image of a speed lab an KNOW that out there someone's business model is to first build the lab then show the 'cooks' how to make product and finally to hand off the supply of BMK to an associate. I've noted TWELVE labs all nigh on identical so someone is doing well. It's been almost a decade and nobody has caught them.

But back on topic. I have often considered the fact that while cheap speed at £10/g and meth at £60/g are two almost totally seperate markets, if someone were prepared to take the hit and produce dexamphetamine sulphate (or phosphate), those SKF5s sell for £1 each. For just 5mg. So that would work on many levels. Someone has, say, £7 for speed - they get seven or maybe eight pills. It works because it drains the pocket of the user down to pennies.

Of course, in the UK ALL 'Novel Psychoactive Compounds' are automatically legally controlled and production and distribution can result in a jail term of seven years on each count makes it only 'of benefit' to people making stuff that would be a class A (if brought under the MODA) where life is a possible term.
 
You never see Amphetamine in the UK, It's all Cannabis and Cocaine... Oh and maybe MDMA from time to time.
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
It was good. I was scared, but at no point did I feel close to death. My heart was racing every so often, but it was very controlled. I have to say I did it with my friend at home in a completely peaceful environment. On the night of the 25th, I used speed again from 7:00 PM to 4:00 AM. 1 gram during that entire time. It's a very, very good and very pure speed, and I feel like that's why I'm able to keep up this pace. What do you think? Because I've read many stories, and I feel like it shouldn't be possible for me to endure this the second time around. I've had three sleepless nights, and today I'll use a few in the afternoon.
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It is NOT 'very good and very pure speed'.

The only reason you are able to keep up this pace is because its basically, shit.
 
All of the above. If it was pure amphetamine 40mg would be enough to shove a rocket up your arse for several hours. 4 grams in under 24 hours is an incomprehensible dose, really.

Street speed tends to have a lot of caffeine in it, often it's mostly caffeine. You usually need to wash it and dry it out before it's any good. Getting it in liquid is pretty unusual too.

evo4ever said:
You never see Amphetamine in the UK, It's all Cannabis and Cocaine... Oh and maybe MDMA from time to time.
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I've seen a lot of online vendors with speed paste. I'm sure it's nowhere near as popular as coke or MD though.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
The only reason so called 'coke' is so popular in the UK is because the sulphate is bollocks. Good speed blows fuckin coke out of the water anyday.
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Probably. I can count the number of times I've taken coke in the last decade on two hands but generally it makes me want more coke in pretty short order. I've always preferred cathinones for a fiendy high.

I've never tried racemic amphetamine. I have a dex prescription so it doesn't really feel worth looking into.
 
UK speed is only 5-10% pure. In fact you HAVE to cut it because amphetamine sulphate is so hygroscopic, it turns to mush in just a few hours. Not the phosphate - that's a quite differenrt beast. Now I have come across what was termed 'base' which in fact looked like a damp cube of sugar. That's more like 50% pure but it's as pure as one can go with the sulphate.

I don't know why amphetamine sulphate still predominates the market BUT it is a Catagory B drug unlike methamphetamine which (in my mind rightfully) is a Catagory A drug.

But if someone were to produce pure dexamphetamine phosphate - I think that could be pressed into fake SKF5s and at £1 each and 200 pills per gram, it is worth that effort. As I said, if someone haa £7 - a dealer can selll seven pills. But it MUST be exactly 5mg equvilalent but the MW of the two salts is almost identical, so simple to do.
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
Good morning, Yesterday I took amphetamine(snort) for the second time, and it didn't go very well... On Saturday at 10 PM, I took 2 Maserati Blue MDMA pills. On Sunday at 1 AM, I started speed and took 4 grams from 1 AM to 7 PM. Then I took a break for about 10 hours (5 AM) and took another 0.03g dose. I don't recommend it to anyone. I did it without being aware of the situation I was exposed to, and it's very dangerous.
Should I go to the doctor or won't it be a big problem? I feel fine.
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Well, I've solved the problem. What happened was that I was pouring out liquid to dry it and create the lines instead of just drying it all. I dried 20g and ended up with 5g left. So I actually took Like 1.5g
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
Well, I've solved the problem. What happened was that I was pouring out liquid to dry it and create the lines instead of just drying it all. I dried 20g and ended up with 5g left. So I actually took Like 1.5g
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There you go. That’s still an insane amount of amphetamine. About 750 mg if which half is dextro 375. I know I couldn’t handle that. That’s fucking insane to me
 
helpingout said:
There you go. That’s still an insane amount of amphetamine. About 750 mg if which half is dextro 375. I know I couldn’t handle that. That’s fucking insane to me
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One of the things about amphetamine (compared to methamphetamine) is that the site of the VMAT-2 transport sort of limits the effect. I may have it the wrong way around but methamphetamine binds to the tetrabenzapine site, amphetamine to the reserpine site. However, amphetamine is an active metabolite OF methamphetamine so in truth, it can much more efficiently prevent monoamine reuptake.

Certainly there are case studies of people surviving multiple grams of amphetmine. I do not think the same is true of methamphetamine.

That's why I believe the Dutch labs producing methamphetamine (and MDMA) are making a mistake. The same optical resolution can be undertaken and the same raecemization using the same radical initators (e.g. AIBN) thus they are able to produce either dexamphetamine sulphate or indeed dexamphetamine phosphate. But it's been over two decades since I've seen SKF5s on offer but evidently people were happy to pay £1 a pop. So that's retailing a gram for £200.

But it seems it's ALWAYS about potency. It seems like in spite of plain amphetamine being the preferred drug, they still make methamphetamine - a drug mostly consumed in the north and east of Europe.
 
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I'm starting to take it again today. I took a 0.1g at 10:30pm and a 0.25g at 11:45pm. I also took a blue Maserati (300mg MDMA, in theory (I doubt it)) at 10pm. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
I'm starting to take it again today. I took a 0.1g at 10:30pm and a 0.25g at 11:45pm. I also took a blue Maserati (300mg MDMA, in theory (I doubt it)) at 10pm. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.
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Were should i dry It? Im using a Dish that is perfect for coke but with speed It gets sticky.
And extra Information of my Speed, when i Put it on a normal ziplock when still liquid it gets disolved( the ziplock Starts dripping). That means its cut with Ethanol right?
 
keftaboyzKoln said:
Were should i dry It? Im using a Dish that is perfect for coke but with speed It gets sticky.
And extra Information of my Speed, when i Put it on a normal ziplock when still liquid it gets disolved( the ziplock Starts dripping). That means its cut with Ethanol right?
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Shine a lamp on it or fondue it, it’ll dry
 
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