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Advice My girlfriend says she hates men… but I’m a man.

pnillyg

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So recently my girlfriend and I have been having some issues. This started when the election happened and since we have political views I was deemed the reason for everything wrong with this world. That’s a whole nother story I’ll link the thread here: https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/girlfriend-won’t-have-sex-with-me-since-trump-won….942862/

So what is happening most recently as I’ve found my addiction to not be resolving due to my lack of ability to leave a relationship that isn’t good for either of us. She has an eating disorder and in a drug addict. The problem is I’ve been working on myself for 7 years (therapy, TMS, detox, rehab, ibogaine, other guided psychedelic experiences, kambo, you name it I’ve done it, more than once). The problem I see is that she is in denial. Last week she came to me and asked for help but then told me she’s perfect and can do no wrong and she even asked her parents and they agreed. Her relationship with her parents is nothing I’ve ever seen before I’m kinda jealous sometimes because she truly believes she can do no wrong but at the same time I’m happy how I was raised because of many reasons (I can take a punch). Anyways. She recently has been expressing to me how much she hates men and has always hated men and thinks they’re disgusting creatures and women don’t need them especially now that we have technology. Not sure what to do with that information as I am a male. The fighting is becoming too much and my addiction is getting worse. I’m not using more than I ever had but that being said I’m using a lot of different things to cope with the emotional warfare. She’s constantly threatening to hurt herself and recently began hitting herself in the face when she gets mad. Which scares me because I’ve never touched a woman unless it was in a kind loving way of course I’m trying to say I’d never hurt a woman. I love women and I believe behind every good man is a better woman. But what I am saying is that given her past with sort of framing me and others in odd ways I’m worried one of these times something bad could happen. Not that I would do anything at all of course but it worries me when she gets all riled up and starts drinking and throwing stuff or hitting herself that it could turn into something it isn’t. Sorry she just came home drunk at 4am when she said she would be home by 9-10. The other week she told me that if I didn’t like something she was wearing to express that to her cause she wants me to speak my truth. So tonight before she left she walked out in a skirt that I could see her ass and vagina in it was like above her vagina that’s how short it was so I said to her “you’re not wearing that right” and she giggled and went back in her room to finish getting ready. She then came back out 45 minutes later in the same outfit and I said have fun with your friends “I hope you have a great night night you didn’t change?” She said oh I though you were joking I’ll go grab a change of clothes and change there. She then came home in what she left in waking me up at 4am when the reason I didn’t go was because I’m working at 8am. She then said some incredibly mean and rude things to me as she always does when she’s drunk (I don’t drink but I use drugs for sure, alcohol just not for me) basically saying I’m out of my mind if I think for one second I can have input on what she’s wearing and how could I make her feel fat and unfit before she went out. There’s a lot going on in my relationship but I’d love some advice. Please ask questions if you need more details in just so alone. Since we have started dating she’s so controlling in what I can and can’t dk which can and can’t see and I’m the opposite so I’ve basically been a hermit for 2 years doing copious amounts of drugs (ketamine, benzos, opiates etc) just to be on around her. She lives in my house so all I have to do is tell her to leave but I’m not good at ending relationships and I hold onto hope when it may not even be there. I’ve been trying to taper meds which I’ve successfully done yesterday but since this morning I’m almost at my daily max so I hope I can stay on track. Thank you for reading and if I think of anything else I’ll add it but that’s all for now fam.
 
Dependency is hard to break especially when you are getting something out of the relationship. The unknown is frightening but often times not as bad as you imagined. What do you want to do if anything at all? What is the worse case scenario in any decision you make?
Trust your gut, you know best what to do.
 
Good luck with your drug situation. Maybe therapy can help or talking with someone about that.



Don't overuse or overindulge for sure. That can give drugs a very bad outlook.

And make them look bad for sure. Don't give drugs a bad name like that.


Oh and can you believe how horrible some people can actually be in this world ?



Your girlfriend's family are her flying monkeys.



Awesome post. Only because I feel bad for what you are enduring and with the drug use as well.



And how intense everything can get ... But if you like that kind of thing.

Are you happy though ? I mean you seem to be. But then just be careful then. Because those drugs

will do you in.



p.s. I feel, if you break up with your girlfriend she could try to kill you. Or ..... do something really really bad.

But then again, she could just be a Drunk. Take care. I don't mean to sound like a piece of shit, myself,



but that's quite a conflict if you need to clean up real quick. Like in a disaster or a real emergency.

But for now. It's just a behavior. I hope that you have preps and a safety plan in case something even worse than



that happens. It's things like these that make me so grateful and happy with my own quiet boring life.

Have you ever tried going outside or enjoying nature. Or just plain old serenity and peacefulness.



Other than that maybe you and her are just going through a phase. We all hope it works out for you anyway, I'm sure.


But I am sure that you already know this. Where did you meet such a person like this btw ? I am wondering because ...

maybe just don't go there again. She sounds really immature to say the least. I thought that I would throw that into the mix too.

But. I don't really know her or you both so. It was just a wild guess.



Isn't it awesome how I separated the typing like that. We do that when we need more space.



I hope that you enjoyed my book. The one I just wrote. Too. <3
 
Dependency is hard to break especially when you are getting something out of the relationship. The unknown is frightening but often times not as bad as you imagined. What do you want to do if anything at all? What is the worse case scenario in any decision you make?
Trust your gut, you know best what to do.

It feels like I can stay with her and use or break up with her and I may be able to not use. But only one way to find out. I was doing the best I ever had for 1 year leading up to this relationship and within a month or so I was back using. All that being said I kinda feel like if we weren’t together I would be able to stop using but who knows. I sure as hell don’t.
 
Good luck with your drug situation. Maybe therapy can help or talking with someone about that.



Don't overuse or overindulge for sure. That can give drugs a very bad outlook.

And make them look bad for sure. Don't give drugs a bad name like that.


Oh and can you believe how horrible some people can actually be in this world ?



Your girlfriend's family are her flying monkeys.



Awesome post. Only because I feel bad for what you are enduring and with the drug use as well.



And how intense everything can get ... But if you like that kind of thing.

Are you happy though ? I mean you seem to be. But then just be careful then. Because those drugs

will do you in.



p.s. I feel, if you break up with your girlfriend she could try to kill you. Or ..... do something really really bad.

But then again, she could just be a Drunk. Take care. I don't mean to sound like a piece of shit, myself,



but that's quite a conflict if you need to clean up real quick. Like in a disaster or a real emergency.

But for now. It's just a behavior. I hope that you have preps and a safety plan in case something even worse than



that happens. It's things like these that make me so grateful and happy with my own quiet boring life.

Have you ever tried going outside or enjoying nature. Or just plain old serenity and peacefulness.



Other than that maybe you and her are just going through a phase. We all hope it works out for you anyway, I'm sure.


But I am sure that you already know this. Where did you meet such a person like this btw ? I am wondering because ...

maybe just don't go there again. She sounds really immature to say the least. I thought that I would throw that into the mix too.

But. I don't really know her or you both so. It was just a wild guess.



Isn't it awesome how I separated the typing like that. We do that when we need more space.



I hope that you enjoyed my book. The one I just wrote. Too. <3
There is no doubt a large aspect of immaturity going on. And thanks for your response it’s very insightful. I don’t feel she’s serous when she says these things but as somebody who has actually dealt with a lot of self harm and seeks help for it I always air on the side of caution regardless of what I think. Not trying to give drugs a bad name at all. They’ve kept me alive sometimes when I didn’t want to be. But they’ve also cause me much harm and stress. Yea I’m worried if we break up I’ll use more but I also feel like that’s just me being a wimp and that might just be the addiction in me talking. Damned if I do damned if I don’t. But what I will say is that I’m definitely not happy right now with the relationship.
 
There is no doubt a large aspect of immaturity going on. And thanks for your response it’s very insightful. I don’t feel she’s serous when she says these things but as somebody who has actually dealt with a lot of self harm and seeks help for it I always air on the side of caution regardless of what I think. Not trying to give drugs a bad name at all. They’ve kept me alive sometimes when I didn’t want to be. But they’ve also cause me much harm and stress. Yea I’m worried if we break up I’ll use more but I also feel like that’s just me being a wimp and that might just be the addiction in me talking. Damned if I do damned if I don’t. But what I will say is that I’m definitely not happy right now with the relationship.

Thank you for reading my post. I felt like I wrote a book. Lol.

But I see that you got through it. Aw. Good to hear from you again !

What drug do you want to quit ? Do you drink too ? ;);)

That's kind of interesting. Is your GF nice sometimes ? Maybe too much EtOH.

But no. I don't know her really. She sounds like fun ? <3


K Bye.
 
So what is happening most recently as I’ve found my addiction to not be resolving due to my lack of ability to leave a relationship that isn’t good for either of us. She has an eating disorder and in a drug addict. The problem is I’ve been working on myself for 7 years (therapy, TMS, detox, rehab, ibogaine, other guided psychedelic experiences, kambo, you name it I’ve done it, more than once). The problem I see is that she is in denial
Have you ever tried sober sobriety? I’m not being an asshole. I’m dead serious.

(Codependency is the same thing as a drug of choice.)

I didn’t read the entire thread yet so if I end up repeating someone else, my apologies.

From that little paragraph right there, you both seem to be in denial. Co dependant people are rarely good for each other.

The longer you stay, the unhappier and bitter you’ll both get. As painful as they are, they’re good teaching relationships. Never compromise who you are, what views you have, and what morals you stand by for any-fucking-body. Fuck that. Fuck that.

If you both really want to work at this relationship, then you both pull up your big boy/girl pants and start making changes asap with the hope of making traction again instead of just spinning your tires out.

That shit is exhausting though. Relationships are constant work. Give/take, ebb/flow. Once they become stagnant… eh… I almost said it’s difficult to tell when someone loves you but that’s not true. Someone that’s in love with another person doesn’t do the shit you’ve both done to each other - I’m saying both because it’s impossible to blame 7 years on one person.. I’m pretty sure you’re well aware of that.

Personally, I’d peace the fuck out.. I’m not saying she’s a bad person but you’re clearly not doing each other any favours. It’s okay to say goodbye to your past. Thank her for teaching you valuable life lessons.

Don’t waste your life on someone just because they have problems and they know alll of your problems. I’ve been there done that. I wasted so much fucking time. You’ll find someone who’s crazy matches your crazy and the two crazies vibe off each other. Go be young. Do dumb shit and learn. Carry the lessons with you, always.

Maybe I’m talking out of my ass because as I said, I have t read it all yet, sorry!
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She’s constantly threatening to hurt herself and recently began hitting herself in the face when she gets mad. Which scares me because I’ve never touched a woman unless it was in a kind loving way of course I’m trying to say I’d never hurt a woman.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is not okay. Get your ass out of that relationship dude. She thinks men are disgusting. She’s punched herself in the face for attention.

I believe you see how bat shit this is.. I think you’ve seen how bat shit it was a long time ago.

I don’t know you, I’ve never met you, I don’t think we’ve ever really had much interaction.

But you need to get the fuck out of that relationship before she ruins your life.

• How long have you guys lived together?
• Have you filed taxes together at any point? • • Do you have separate banking stuff?
• Do you have any loans with both of your names on it?
• What state are you in? (Only asking because I know here in Canada things are a bit different in each province)
• What other drugs does she do?
• Do you have any idea if she’s ever been diagnosed with anything mental health wise?

Getting a person like this out of your life can be incredibly difficult. You’re going to need some help if I’m being honest. Women/(and men) like this scare me.
I may be going a little overboard with my ‘advice’ but I’d rather go overboard with it instead of you ending up with a charge… because that just how shit works sometimes.

You need a plan. You need someone/people you trust to help you make it. Whenever it is you decide you’re going to break it off with her, a witness or two wouldn’t hurt. She strikes me as the type of girl that would throw you under the bus in a heart beat - correct me if I’m wrong or if I’m overstepping.
You should have some form of voice recording. You never know.
That feels so icky to me because of things that have happened in my life but you may be in a position where this is the only option you have left.
I highly, highly doubt she’s walking out of that house on her own two feet without kicking and screaming and breaking everything she can get her hands on.

Being addicted to another human is incredibly relatable to me. Ugh.. such a gross feeling when you know better but keep doing it anyway.. whatever “it” is. In this particular case, she’s your drug of choice… the rest fall in line..

Do you have family/friends/any loved ones at all that could help you?

If she’s anything like the men and women I know, then she’s going to say and do absolutely fucking anything to keep you stuck with her. If that doesn’t work, she’s going to threaten you with taking her own life “because of you”. Then she’ll do some ninja mind fuckery. She’ll blame you for everything.. blah blah blah.

Change your number once she’s out of your house, and if she ever tries to talk to you once she’s out, do not engage. I’d say don’t engage in that shit now but I understand how insanely difficult it is.
You give an inch she’ll take a mile. Don’t play that game. It’s not fun..
 
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Oops you had already mentioned that you know you’re in a codependent relationship. Sorry!
 
Thank you for responding to my post. It’s an interesting situation and i figured id let it all out (obviously my perspective).

I’ve read the entire thread through. A few times and everybody’s insights are incredibly helpful. Thank you.

going to respond to each question as i get time but for now yall are the best! Really appreciate it.

Speaking with a therapist next week hopefully.
 
Well written, you're an asset to BL and not another fucking drain,thank you
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Aww shucks 😘
You’ve earned 1 Schrute Buck.
 
One of the things that we do in co-dependent relationships is think ‘if we do or say a certain thing then this person will or won’t do that or this.’ It’s not nefarious or manipulative either, I’ve noticed a lot of people do it out of survival in a sense or other times love. Just like when Tina Turner said ‘What’s love got to do with it’. I feel that in a sense in these type of relationships … the love we feel does not stop from things that are unhealthy or hurt us. Like if you feel ‘wow I love her so much, if only I can just find or say the right words so that I can finally get through to her’. But if you’re dealing with someone that can’t/wont hear you, it doesn’t matter if you’re saying it in the softest or ways with the help of an angel or shouting it from the rooftops … I’ve been through this in relationships as well as family relationships. I’m really sorry you’re going through all this. Also I apologize as I’m not sure if anything I'm saying is very helpful.

One thing I was thinking when I wrote this is if you start journaling … specifically what you are going through feeling, experiencing day to day. I’ve noticed before that in the middle of the storm sometimes it gets hard to see things (all the way so to speak). There’s times I’ve started writing in a journal day to day what I was experiencing in a relationship and have had moments where it’s been very eye opening. It’s almost as in seeing it there written down on top of things that will kind of come out in your writing can almost surprise you in a way. It’s like it’s in there but in a way the stuff that will kind of come out and as you’re flowing in the writing will register … you can kind of have moments like “Holy shit this IS something that’s happening or that I feel!”

I hope any of that made any sense. (Im kind of sleep deprived and going through some shit too … so, yea hope ANY of that made sense or helped at all). If not please just take what works for you and leave the rest.

I’ve seen you around here and you seem like a descent dude that’s going through some shit … well guess like a lot of us here huh. Just know that people read what you write and care. I hope for things to get better for you some how some way. Try to in all of this to remember to take a deep breath and do little caring things for yourself when you can.

Sending you hope, support and a hug 💜
 
Something else that @AngelsandFairiesarereal touched on:

Let’s pretend we’re together. And I tell you how you’re hurting my feelings. But you refuse to hear me. So then I repeat myself.. over and over trying to somehow beat it into your head. I may as well eat paper clips. It’s just as productive.

I’d drive myself crazy trying to make people understand where I’m coming from. But why put all that fucking energy into someone that just doesn’t give a fuck and isn’t willing to give a fuck.

So from now on, if I make myself as clear as I possibly can without drawing you a picture, then it’s not my fault that you don’t understand me.. and I’m not taking responsibility and apologizing for something I haven’t done. Not anymore. It’s insanely empowering. I literally despise confrontation. Some people live for it. It makes me physically sick. I’d suggest you try doing the same.

I’m not the kicked puppy in the corner anymore. Fuck that. Fuck that so hard.
 
One of the things that we do in co-dependent relationships is think ‘if we do or say a certain thing then this person will or won’t do that or this.’ It’s not nefarious or manipulative either, I’ve noticed a lot of people do it out of survival in a sense or other times love. Just like when Tina Turner said ‘What’s love got to do with it’. I feel that in a sense in these type of relationships … the love we feel does not stop from things that are unhealthy or hurt us. Like if you feel ‘wow I love her so much, if only I can just find or say the right words so that I can finally get through to her’. But if you’re dealing with someone that can’t/wont hear you, it doesn’t matter if you’re saying it in the softest or ways with the help of an angel or shouting it from the rooftops … I’ve been through this in relationships as well as family relationships. I’m really sorry you’re going through all this. Also I apologize as I’m not sure if anything I'm saying is very helpful.

One thing I was thinking when I wrote this is if you start journaling … specifically what you are going through feeling, experiencing day to day. I’ve noticed before that in the middle of the storm sometimes it gets hard to see things (all the way so to speak). There’s times I’ve started writing in a journal day to day what I was experiencing in a relationship and have had moments where it’s been very eye opening. It’s almost as in seeing it there written down on top of things that will kind of come out in your writing can almost surprise you in a way. It’s like it’s in there but in a way the stuff that will kind of come out and as you’re flowing in the writing will register … you can kind of have moments like “Holy shit this IS something that’s happening or that I feel!”

I hope any of that made any sense. (Im kind of sleep deprived and going through some shit too … so, yea hope ANY of that made sense or helped at all). If not please just take what works for you and leave the rest.

I’ve seen you around here and you seem like a descent dude that’s going through some shit … well guess like a lot of us here huh. Just know that people read what you write and care. I hope for things to get better for you some how some way. Try to in all of this to remember to take a deep breath and do little caring things for yourself when you can.

Sending you hope, support and a hug 💜
Thank you so much for responding. That’s super helpful you’re the best and sending you a hug, love, and support right back! We’re actually meeting with a therapist this week I believe so I have high copes to figure out the right decision. And the codependency thing I’m definitely aware of I always have been. A serial dater one may say. But super insightful examples and explanations you’re the best.
 
Something else that @AngelsandFairiesarereal touched on:

Let’s pretend we’re together. And I tell you how you’re hurting my feelings. But you refuse to hear me. So then I repeat myself.. over and over trying to somehow beat it into your head. I may as well eat paper clips. It’s just as productive.

I’d drive myself crazy trying to make people understand where I’m coming from. But why put all that fucking energy into someone that just doesn’t give a fuck and isn’t willing to give a fuck.

So from now on, if I make myself as clear as I possibly can without drawing you a picture, then it’s not my fault that you don’t understand me.. and I’m not taking responsibility and apologizing for something I haven’t done. Not anymore. It’s insanely empowering. I literally despise confrontation. Some people live for it. It makes me physically sick. I’d suggest you try doing the same.

I’m not the kicked puppy in the corner anymore. Fuck that. Fuck that so hard.
I’m trying to get like that big time! Taking notes my friend.
 
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So notice how all three of us apologized somehow. Me, being the ' piece of shit.'

These are the signs of a manipulated gaslit and abused victims.


We are always apologizing in some shape or form all of the time.


' They' don't apologize ... but yet we end up having to somehow, for something that they caused in the first place.


And I bet and wager that the one that apologizes the most ... is actually the most abused. It shouldn't have to be that way.
 
I don't have an abusive relationship ... but when you marry into it. There may be someone involved through that marriage that can be that one person that can ruin many lives when they live to use and abuse others. Somehow they find that way to latch on, as well, like some type of a toxic entity.

It's how they ' get ' things. Clapping cheeks or smiling right into your face for food, shelter, and money.


So you have to be very careful. Because families also can ruin lives. Especially families. And also the one's that marriage causes, or just as a matter of fact any family, or any relationship can ... through all what it endures.

Until ... one must have to learn through therapy or from self improvement by finding the choices that are the healthiest and the best option.
 
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