UK's new internet laws, are we going to lose our anonymity, and become as heavily censored and monitored as China, North Korea, Russia etc?

[Shady's Fox]

Some might not remember but Garbage Kids or how the fuck was called those cards, were banned in EU a few years ago.

 

[Shady's Fox]

The facial recognition stuff is probably done by AI? But there's laws been passed recently about 'online flashing' though, so you could potentially get done for that if the AI picks up on it, or if a human does see it?

I like the subversion of the stupid policy though.

Other people are uploading face pics from specific computer games to successfully get past the gate keepers. Surely it's AI doing the gate keeping in those cases.

no ai interacts directly yet with you or communicates unless you go on a global known chat AI and speak and that's not the one we gonna have in our society.

chat gpt is a demo for global recording stats and how you use the web to enhance user experience online mainly on the search engines widely known as Bing, Yahoo or Google.

Hence why Vivaldi the browser company has their own search engine and pays for partnership that when you install it, the fresh start search is on their selected choice, is a smart way more or less but is not at same time. I mean for me the company is still the one who does abstract thinking regarding their browser and while Chromium, in terms of power user and performance is more fragile than it should, because their once were a trainer for Google, their ex versions are basically a fort that any other chromium gecko will never touch and they traded this to come on the conformity of how the internet gonna be in 7 years from now. Same faith gonna be for Apple.

For the moment, Apple, offers those who have rare and preserved photos of certain mortalized moments that can't be online nor offline.. a different kind of intimacy system.

So Apple is the way to go atm. In near future people gonna have portable Pi's and computers will most likely die. Talkin in 50-100 years from now.

 

[Shady's Fox]

who sees your face is a one way alghoritm that is coded in python

stop the useless ai thing... people now because AI chats or ai werent a public thing 10 years ago, think Skynet at every step they do.

So they thought using Tor protects you when is not true

tor officially still has army copyrights and the public version is not the collective code.

That code is in someone mind who gets milions to shut up weekly.

 

[Bleaney]

I agree but not everyone knows how to set up vpns etc so they will just stop using forums like bl for fear of incrementing themselves .but do the police really have the resources to deal with this type of stuff if we are to believe them they are already stretched to capacity .Scotland has the hate crime bill and the police weren't to thrilled when that came into action.they have laws in place to deal with any hate crime to begin with

It's really easy.

Choose a VPN.
Download it.
Run the exe file.
Go to the extensions sections of your browser(s).
Import the VPN and switch it on.
Choose your country, region, and city.

The first step is possibly the most contentious one, in terms of any free VPNs especially, which have a record of selling your data anyway. They have to make money somehow. So it's recommended to avoid them.

But then many of the others have reportedly had incidents of data breaches or data mining too, although most promise and declare that they dont keep any logs for selling on.

Tbh I dont know for sure which ones will truly safeguard your data and browsing history.

I ended up going for one that was reasonably priced and that I hadn't heard anything bad about.

Good VPNs safeguard your data as well as allowing you to appear to be located in many other countries.

I just chose anywhere in the UK before the OSA, just to change my IP address, prevent my ISP from snooping on my activities, and to re-gain access to torrent searches once again, seeing as all ISPs had blocked this.

They have multiple advantages.

 

[lost weekend]

It's really easy.

Choose a VPN.
Download it.
Run the exe file.
Go to the extensions sections of your browser(s).
Import the VPN and switch it on.
Choose your country, region, and city.

The first step is possibly the most contentious one, in terms of any free VPNs especially, which have a record of selling your data anyway. They have to make money somehow. So it's recommended to avoid them.

But then many of the others have reportedly had incidents of data breaches or data mining too, although most promise and declare that they dont keep any logs for selling on.

Tbh I dont know for sure which ones will truly safeguard your data and browsing history.

I ended up going for one that was reasonably priced and that I hadn't heard anything bad about.

Good VPNs safeguard your data as well as allowing you to appear to be located in many other countries.

I just chose anywhere in the UK before the OSA, just to change my IP address, prevent my ISP from snooping on my activities, and to re-gain access to torrent searches once again, seeing as all ISPs had blocked this.

They have multiple advantages.

I'll look into it and follow your instructions if I can manage .thanks

 

[Bleaney]

The UK has just tried to fine 4Chan £20,000 under the OSA.

Their response is hilarious and beautiful!!

“American businesses do not surrender their First Amendment rights because a foreign bureaucrat sends them an email. Under settled principles of U.S. law, American courts will not enforce foreign penal fines or censorship codes. If necessary, we will seek appropriate relief in U.S. federal court to confirm these principles. United States federal authorities have been briefed on this matter.”

Byrne and Storm also noted that Sir Keir Starmer was reportedly warned by the White House to stop targeting American firms with the UK’s censorship code saying:

“Despite these warnings, Ofcom continues its illegal campaign of harassment against American technology firms. A political solution to this matter is urgently required and must come from the highest levels of American government. We call on the Trump Administration to invoke all diplomatic and legal levers available to protect American companies from extraterritorial censorship mandates.”

A giant FUCK YOU, and the whole act would now appear to be in the complete tatters that it deserves to be.

Who the fuck do Starmer and Ofcom think they are, trying to impose their stupid laws on American companies. It would be Like Donald Trump fining Sainsbury's £20,000 for them selling alcohol to an under 21.

I truly hope this will set the precedent, and what will become a laughing stock of a policy, will have to be revoked.

 

[Chickens]

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I still think the policy would be better if it targeted households with children. The ISPs could get that info easily enough I;m sure. Then fair enough for some kind of child protection checks in those households.

But it pisses me off that everyone has been targeted indiscriminately and unnecessarily.

No one can explain how someone in a household without children uploading their face or ID protects children. As there are no children to protect in that household.
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Tik tok has been included in the first wave, and has had to ban under 18s. AFAIK most of it's users are under 18, so this will pretty much kill that site in the UK.

As a parent with kids who use the Internet, it's up to me, not my ISP, what I allow them to view. I'm fully against KYC. If I don't want porn or gambling, I block those sites. As of now, I don't use parental controls, we have conversations about what's okay to do online.

Just like the prohibition on drugs, trying to stop kids from looking at "unwanted content" online isn't going to be solved by restricting it, it's by education.

 

[Uden]

It's like they are thinking 'most of them went along with the Covid restrictions so they'll probably be compliant in this case too.'

I personally think that was the entire reason the "Covid" thing happened, so they could test just how far they could push people.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

You now need an ID to access bluelights discord in the UK on account of the online safety act. Harm reduction available for the over 18s only.

Assuming you're willing to send discord your ID.

Mate, maybe I'll have more eloquent analysis for tomorrow but for now all I can say is that is fucked.

Fuck.

Apologies if this was already mentioned. I didn't read through the thread before posting I just happened to check in with the discord saw the age barrier and was incensed.

 

[Shady's Fox]

You now need an ID to access bluelights discord in the UK on account of the online safety act. Harm reduction available for the over 18s only.

Assuming you're willing to send discord your ID.

Mate, maybe I'll have more eloquent analysis for tomorrow but for now all I can say is that is fucked.

Fuck.

Apologies if this was already mentioned. I didn't read through the thread before posting I just happened to check in with the discord saw the age barrier and was incensed.

maybe you flipped your soles off when I tell you that facebook already did this 12 years ago. Exactly.

facebook had a thing on pw resets where to confirm identity they made you hold a paper with the name and a photo. So what are the chances these were seen by a real human vs a propietary bot collecting data and analyzing details from your whole profile maybe including added friends too, your friends. Looking there for you if public and most keep it public(the little earth thing). I don't use social media anymore except WhatsApp because I got to, I not only got to but have to. For me whatsapp seems like their measuring each strike location of what the user said about x or y and then recycling the information throughout the whole server and take note from there.

Seems like from what is, 22th July 2025, people who do use it aren't having their same aura as on other social medias because it feels like a toy from childhood so to say, is personal, it works on phone numbers. But this will not last since meta implemented "channels" which is sort of what it says, hidden hubs of spam or artists doing certain announcements to their wallet benefits, I also saw kids posting shit there, is a strange side of whatsapp overall and makes 0 sense but i don't give a fuck, unless we go back to MMS any message is recorded and stored.
mms's used to have a different thing because the strict-online then offline only back in the days was made on a source code that can still functions ok in phones such as black berries and for that reason one, bb phones will NEVER sell you out because very few losers have such knowledge to have such...

one thing i can tell is that Europe is taking advantage of creatures like you or everybody but me in this thread. You let'em come to this, now you orbit around a black hole.

But people like me have underground, where we're on webkit browsers if it gets to a point where you cannot use any side of the internet without so. Now let me tell you how I see this in two words.

visa/master the femish altercations doesn't have a saying here but what has is this. If everyone else from beginning wouldn't use the internet on just such as google/reddit/facebook/x100 same social media sites/tumblr/firefox, now we could or wouldn't be here and if we were, we already had a way out and google could close tomorrow and start selling clothes in Nigeria to kids who walks butt naked in oil collection onions. Linux is not optimized for the future internet, it never was, so Windows like it or not still is the fact that evolution exists. Chrome already stoled Apple webkit code and forked their own blink version off, so what this means? All these names I said, events, meet at the same place and time with the same faith, unless someone releases of what I've heard from someone on dark web, that the original tor has a propietary Trident based engine but not exactly, is a head start for the code itself, the engine is still unknown and don't think Tor is made for you to just simply install it and jerk off non-stop or play 4k videos no, is made for coding and time jump browsing which means you just reading through a filter certain bits of informations(article of 300 words, made in a small frame appears as 8 words). So people who think they know they don't.

is a reason you go to a doctor, and is a reason you talk to an IT. Now let's not go to who's less or more stuck in their brain regarding their selected career.


I highly advice anyone online to simply let it all flow through you is ok, we all exist here, you're here even if you never posted a photo/info with or someone else.

 

[Shady's Fox]

But what's the line between apple webkit og and blink?

apple was never open source, and apple trolled them with bold css's that are highlighted when you type them because there's a thing called WSL and while you can't use them directly, you can get a peak.

but apple did indeed release a full webkit all way through white sails back in 2012.

 

[Shady's Fox]

nevertheless, internet will remain ancient for 200 years more despite what and how, is a reality very few know it and why we sleep better

 

[Psynaught]

This is a bit off topic, but UK related...didn't they just make a law that allows police to arrest you if you try and chat up a gal?

And this was a few years back but didn't Idris Elba lead a movement trying to ban sharp cutlery in the home? Imaging trying do prepare and eat food with dull knifes.

 

[Uden]

maybe you flipped your soles off when I tell you that facebook already did this 12 years ago. Exactly.

I don't know if that's region based or whatever but I've never sent FB a fcking thing. I won't even tell them my last name. It's just "No" as my last name lol. (It used to be Nonapplicable but they tried to make me give them my last name some years back so I changed it to No.) They can ban me if they want. PLEASE do me that favor. (That'll just make it extra hard for them to do our governments bidding and track me though, so win~win for me.)

 

[4DQSAR]

Anyone dumb enough ANY form of digital communcation deserves all they get IMO.

Or did everyone else collectively forget that GCHQ developed both 'Tempora' and 'Mastering the Internet' or that the US had bought in to that system?

So you use a secure messaging tool, ay? How secure is the OS it sits on?

Heck, they can OTA reprogram your SIM card(s) so either top down or bottom up, it isn't secure.

It's a fait accompli.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I'm guessing Reddit gets caught up in all this too.

Here's hoping places like BL(forums) and erowid don't get wrapped up in this too I don't know if they can be forced to enforce it.

Dark days.

 

[Shady's Fox]

I don't know if that's region based or whatever but I've never sent FB a fcking thing. I won't even tell them my last name. It's just "No" as my last name lol. (It used to be Nonapplicable but they tried to make me give them my last name some years back so I changed it to No.) They can ban me if they want. PLEASE do me that favor. (That'll just make it extra hard for them to do our governments bidding and track me though, so win~win for me.)

I don't know either but seems that is not so. Facebook now make you mandatory to write a real name even if isn't yours. So those days flew away like banana peels do in sewers where they filter your bath water

Now Meta has their own AI engine and seems it serves same purpose as open ai and is not a direct threat to your data. Zuckerberg is responsible for the arrest of tpb owners and he will never be forgotten among the underground hacking community. I am not one but there are.

What is, is America, they can make certain US things mandatory for NATO countries too, such as McAfee antivirus, only Excel at work rather than libre office and so on. By having this behaviour they activate certain restriction that are known to be 100% transparent with their interests. But again these are hypothesis that are far cry from a few 10-15 years from now.

At the start this gonna be a fresh frame for coders too because is gonna be something like this

You binge Ed Edd and Eddy - 12 years old
So on.

 

[Shady's Fox]

where is first to arrive could be japan areas and south korea rather than EU.

is a guess made by calculating users with low to moderate time on the internet.

Japan people mainly sit on consoles or have phones for business so therefore their a potentiator for analyzing online patterns.

Balkan countries could too but I guess all this shit can be disabled through a browser extension such as NoScript

 

[Shady's Fox]

One shortcut they can't do yet is software tracking.

is extremely diagonally to put into action. And my panicked fellows, there's no reason to use gecko, is slow and doesn't has privacy except what it has is a personalizable css that can look ok at first but gets a stagnantion energy with time. Wants some privacy? Stay offline!

 

[Flynnal]

As much as I feel sorry for future generations and humanity in general, especially in countries where governments are simply getting too powerful, I won't be around in 5 years so in the end it won't even matter to me.

I always ask myself, will it matter in 5 minutes, will it matter in 5 hours, 5 days...weeks...months...years. Here we're talking years, but it won't matter by then. Yep, still have hearing damage, yep, still have brain damage, still have memory problems, still have the odd balance problem, and keep getting these weird nerve "attacks"...one of them targeting the muscles behind my right eye...

Never gonna stop, so I've set some clear boundaries. These are independent of the government or any policy on euthanasia that my government might have. I take that power upon myself to do with my body as I see fit and appropriate. If that means taking something or doing something that kills me fairly quickly, well, I guess that's tough tinnies for the government. My fuse is running fairly short right now, so it won't take too many future attacks to simply decide that enough is enough, and that I know the end.