Rarest drugs you've done?

[unodelacosa]

Qat/ Khat/ Catha Edulis … so hard to get.

I can find it in Brooklyn where the majority of bodegas are run by men from Yemen. It has to be kept inside banana leaves to keep it moist and fresh enough that it doesn't lose too much potency, but I hear there's nothing like the freshly plucked leaves… The drug that gets you stimmed out is cathinone (and the much weaker cathine).

Maybe via DW shit i imagine, though Qat needs to be fresh.

Probs, though I've never seen it. Then again, I'm not really looking for it either. You know, the plant causes a lot of problems in Yemen, though simultaneously, the fact that it's illegal in all these other countries only adds to the problem by creating a lucrative black market for it…

In NL its Illegal.

In the U.S. and U.K. it's illegal as well.

Hard to grow yourself, or impossible.

Where did you hear this?

Most drug s i like or hate i can still get or grow.
Ethroxylum Coca or Ephedra Sinica seem eassier. And more legal.

Only marginally.

Otherwise i d say 2C-T2.

Good one.

 

[TheLightBringer]

All drugs ive done:
Probably somewhere around 80 - 100 different research chemicals
A couple of pyrros, phenidates, amphs, cathinones, benzos and many different dissos and psychs
Another 50 - 60 drugs that are either pharma or street drugs

Semi-rare:
Ethylmorphine (not rare at all where I live but seems to be rare outside of Europe)

Dextropropoxyphene (rare today but not in the past)

Mirogabalin (rare outside of specific countries)

Some unknown exotic benzo I unfortunately cant remember the name of because it was in a foreign language

Truly rare compounds ive taken:
4-MTA (4-MethylThioAmphetamine)
MMDA (5-Methoxy-MDA)
”Pure” Cathinone (synthesized from PPA, wasnt really ”pure” but at least it was in powder form as opposed to chewing on a leaf, unsure if it even counts as truly rare since its common in plant form)

Honorable mentions:
Blue lotus (not really any ”high” to speak of but seems to be somewhat uncommon)
Wild lettuce/”opium lettuce” (Adenosine agonist, not that interesting but uncommon)
Jenkem (just kidding )

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I can find it in Brooklyn where the majority of bodegas are run by men from Yemen. It has to be kept inside banana leaves to keep it moist and fresh enough that it doesn't lose too much potency, but I hear there's nothing like the freshly plucked leaves… The drug that gets you stimmed out is cathinone (and the much weaker cathine).

I always got em like that 'fresh' as can be plucked early Flown in.
And distributed, like you described. They were ok 3 day s kept in the leave and in a cooler. They got 3 shipments a week, so chewed 3 days a week i am guessing.

A soft drug with the most friendly drug-dealer s i ever met.
Its not hard-core, but better then Amphetamine, Ephedrine or Cocaine.
A sloppy stim with an emphatogenic edge.

Kinda weird for a simple Cathinone. It never stimmed me out.
Never had trouble sleeping, its versatile and balanced.
A couch or Coffee-shop drug. Not really suited for dancing,
but very good for socialising. Don t use Alcohol/ Coffee/ nrg- drinks on it.
Cola or my preference Green tea. A little Caffeine adds some needed stim.

Probs, though I've never seen it. Then again, I'm not really looking for it either. You know, the plant causes a lot of problems in Yemen, though simultaneously, the fact that it's illegal in all these other countries only adds to the problem by creating a lucrative black market for it…


In the U.S. and U.K. it's illegal as well.

They are abusing the water meant for food, and have woman do the work.
Which i don t get, i like working my ass of under influence or not.
And which person chooses a soft drug, money crop. Over feeding people.
The governement should take measures, so they are the first to blame.

And then figure the Ethiopian and Somalian that had a chance fled to UK.
When our government destroyed their social structure. It was still legal in UK att.

They where treated as inferior people by the Dutch government any way.

Where did you hear this?

Read my favourite seed/ plant shop. A normal one, had em in the assortiment.
Live plants, the seed are harder to propagate. But when the ban was set.
They left the assortment, even the legal Coca plants gone also San-Pedro/ Peyote.

They used to sell Strawberry tree s, and still sell 'Cat Scare/ Coleus Canina'.
And offer a Sassafras plant, 1 left.

So might i get a seed, i can experiment and see if it germ s and grow s.
At a acceptable pace.

Only marginally.

The seeds of Ephedra are legal still [i think], and Coca-leaves not de-Cocaine-ized too

Good one.

The best and rarest i had. Everyone i shared it with agreed it was a gem.
Better then 2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-D and 2C-E. Love the last too btw.

 

[unodelacosa]

MMDA (5-Methoxy-MDA)

Ooh, that's cool if you've taken this. Was it as "mind-movie"-esque as Shulgin makes it out to be?

The best and rarest i had. Everyone i shared it with agreed it was a gem.

Yeah 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7 are both special, but so are 2C-B and 2C-E. Also, 2C-I is quite a gem, in my opinion, but I think 2C-C and 2C-D were kinda meh for me, which was surprising considering DOC and DOM were pretty mind blowing…

They are abusing the water meant for food,

That's the trouble I'm speaking of… it's a bad situation, and the farmers are driven by profits, and I can't blame them bc the country is very poverty-stricken.

 

[Chickens]

I had an "RC" guy a while back, I've tried just about every 2-Cx and NBOME that was around at that time. That was a lot of crazy shit. One time I got to 2-Csomething NBOME, and he thought it was just the 2-C, so I dosed like 20x. I hid in a bathtub for like 12 hours.

I've had freshly brewed poppy pod tea (used to be more common, not so much anymore in Western countries) as well. I had a stronger nod and euphoria off of that stuff than I did off of any shot of dope, no question.

My old dog had a phenobarbital prescription I would help myself to every now and then (he took like 1/8 of the prescribed dose, and it was more than enough), those were fun.

I used to play around with pseudo/ephedrine, and tried some of the weird, relatively easy to make amps, like M-CAT and others.

Good times.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

dextropropoxythene

Is there a difference between this and Dextropropoxyphene?

Remember back in the day when I could get Lentogesic when it still contained Pemoline.

The closest pharmaceutical to the body high of lsd that I ever experienced.

Over quarter of a century ago, but still recall those times.

 

[4DQSAR]

Is there a difference between this and Dextropropoxyphene?

Remember back in the day when I could get Lentogesic when it still contained Pemoline.

The closest pharmaceutical to the body high of lsd that I ever experienced.

Over quarter of a century ago, but still recall those times.

No - I can't spell.

Pemoline was used to treat certain neurological disorders but it was withdrawn. due to rare but serious side-effects.

We played around with the aminorex scaffold but not into this. I can't remember why but certainly it was being withdrawn at the time so we figured even derivatives could be as risky. People may correctly point out that the aminorex clas was also withdrawn but if you are searching for an MDMA alternative that a consumer would use occassionally, the 5HT2b activity would't be an issue. MDMA has similar 5HT2b activity but if use is limited to raves, it's not an issue.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

No - I can't spell.

Pemoline was used to treat certain neurological disorders but it was withdrawn. due to rare but serious side-effects.

We played around with the aminorex scaffold but not into this. I can't remember why but certainly it was being withdrawn at the time so we figured even derivatives could be as risky. People may correctly point out that the aminorex clas was also withdrawn but if you are searching for an MDMA alternative that a consumer would use occassionally, the 5HT2b activity would't be an issue. MDMA has similar 5HT2b activity but if use is limited to raves, it's not an issue.

Thanks, thought it was a typo.

The combo of the drug gave a really unique effect for a pharmaceutical at same schedule status as benzodiazepines, anti depressants etc.

The Dextropropoxyphene on it's own was trash.

Anyways, thanks for the extra info.

 

[unodelacosa]

Pemoline was used to treat certain neurological disorders but it was withdrawn. due to rare but serious side-effects.

In the 25 years it was on the U.S. market IIRC there were 13 cases of hepatoxocity in the liver requiring an E.R. visit. Seven of them died, I believe. In the grand scheme of things this is not a very large number over 25 years…

We played around with the aminorex scaffold but not into this. I can't remember why but certainly it was being withdrawn at the time

Toxic for the liver. As for the Aminorex family, some of them cause cardio-pulmonary problems, and some cause serotonin syndrome…

All My Aminorexes live in Reno, Texas.

so we figured even derivatives could be as risky. People may correctly point out that the aminorex clas was also withdrawn but if you are searching for an MDMA alternative that a consumer would use occassionally, the 5HT2b activity would't be an issue. MDMA has similar 5HT2b activity but if use is limited to raves, it's not an issue.

4-MAR is a gem, but I understand it causes COPD. Evidently, 3,4-methylenedioxy-aminorex is the real winner, winner, chicken dinner.

 

[4DQSAR]

No - we found 3,4-MDAR to be really unpredictable. It's 4-methyl derivative even more so (certainly it killed some people)

If you want a reliable, MDMA+ experience then 2 parts p-Me aminorex to 1-part m-aminorex is perfect. We even had a brand-name worked out for it - Empathy.

But then the PSA laws took hold and not wishing to wind up in jail, we stopped.

I know, a mixture seems a pain but in both cases, that aromatic methyl functions in two ways. para it increases seratogenic activety, meta it increases dopamagenic activity but in both cases, it's a labile moiety so metabolism is really easy to deal with. It's just oxidized to the carboxylic acids and flushed out as a salt.

I think you know me well enough to refuse to allow dangerous RCs to end up on the market.

BTW did you like the PM?

 

[letsparty]

Something I was only able to get once and I imagine it had been stolen from a hospital was a rather good size bottle w dropper of liquid xanex
( A nurse friend said it may have been liquid lorazepam) Either way ....ho lee shit .... Was amazing, also very dangerous.. .
I several times took way to much along with Fetty and lost days of memory.....lost my car , car keys , car title rando enough and my wallet...not to mention people around my neighborhood had stories of.me doing wacko shit ..
I found the car days later in a movie theater parking lot , found the title at a guys house who I hardly knew except for buying drugs one time ...
He said I had emptyd my wallet at his house and put everything insode.my hat ....wtf. Eventually found most of it. Never found the car keys ($400 to replace). After all that I still wanted more. Luckily, I had lost the bottle too...

Also China white is very hard to find in Tucson..
In a year of looking I only found it once ..
I guess not that " rare" elsewhere.

 

[4DQSAR]

Something I was only able to get once and I imagine it had been stolen from a hospital was a rather good size bottle w dropper of liquid xanex
( A nurse friend said it may have been liquid lorazepam) Either way ....ho lee shit .... Was amazing, also very dangerous.. .
I several times took way to much along with Fetty and lost days of memory.....lost my car , car keys , car title rando enough and my wallet...not to mention people around my neighborhood had stories of.me doing wacko shit ..
I found the car days later in a movie theater parking lot , found the title at a guys house who I hardly knew except for buying drugs one time ...
He said I had emptyd my wallet at his house and put everything insode.my hat ....wtf. Eventually found most of it. Never found the car keys ($400 to replace). After all that I still wanted more. Luckily, I had lost the bottle too...

Also China white is very hard to find in Tucson..
In a year of looking I only found it once ..
I guess not that " rare" elsewhere.

Well, who knows what was in that solution? Alprazolam solution does indeed come in brown bottles with a dropper, it's considered relatively benign depending on the dose you consumed, obviously. Retrograde amnesia is gnerally only encoutered at very high doses although mixing it with other CNS depressants is always a risky business.

I dislike solutions because one common issue with them is that anteriorgrade amnesia can result in accidental redosing. I've witnessed someone take a handful of clonazepam tablets on top of H. They then went on to SELL some of the tablets (they had 168 of them) in front of me, 'stash' the rest, accuse me of stealing them before fiannly overdosing on H. They didn't remember the sale, they certainly didn't remember where they had stashed them so before leaving, I placed their wallet, keys and other valuable right in front of them with a note simply saying 'all your stuff is here'.

Then I get a call not thanking me for saving their life but asking why I had left a passive-aggressive note!

I'm pretty sure they are dead now. Or at least I never see them in town. But along the way I've learnt that people who consume benzos can be highly unpredictable and if you mix in opioids, the outcomes can be bad. I should have known because as a teenager I watched some friends-of-friends whacking up Diconal tablets. Talk about mayhem. They were offering to sell me the chair they were sitting on just to buy one more pill. In that case, I walked home. I wanted no part of that scene. But once again, it's me that's being rude.

 

[letsparty]

Well, who knows what was in that solution? Alprazolam solution does indeed come in brown bottles with a dropper, it's considered relatively benign depending on the dose you consumed, obviously. Retrograde amnesia is gnerally only encoutered at very high doses although mixing it with other CNS depressants is always a risky business.

I dislike solutions because one common issue with them is that anteriorgrade amnesia can result in accidental redosing. I've witnessed someone take a handful of clonazepam tablets on top of H. They then went on to SELL some of the tablets (they had 168 of them) in front of me, 'stash' the rest, accuse me of stealing them before fiannly overdosing on H. They didn't remember the sale, they certainly didn't remember where they had stashed them so before leaving, I placed their wallet, keys and other valuable right in front of them with a note simply saying 'all your stuff is here'.

Then I get a call not thanking me for saving their life but asking why I had left a passive-aggressive note!

I'm pretty sure they are dead now. Or at least I never see them in town. But along the way I've learnt that people who consume benzos can be highly unpredictable and if you mix in opioids, the outcomes can be bad. I should have known because as a teenager I watched some friends-of-friends whacking up Diconal tablets. Talk about mayhem. They were offering to sell me the chair they were sitting on just to buy one more pill. In that case, I walked home. I wanted no part of that scene. But once again, it's me that's being rude.

No I understand.. I didny make it a regular routine and I would not wanted to be around myself either lol . When I could get benzoes it to help me sleep. That story was at the end of my spiral and it was obviously getting out of hand ..

 

[WellTram]

Memantine and 97+ % pure hydromorphone powder smoked from bong

 

[Robi]

X mass trees and cross tops,pcp of course ludes,but only tried once,i was so young on that,never hear of them around

 

[4DQSAR]

No I understand.. I didny make it a regular routine and I would not wanted to be around myself either lol . When I could get benzoes it to help me sleep. That story was at the end of my spiral and it was obviously getting out of hand ..

It's just tempting that if someone has alprazolam solution... why not dilute it, add an RC benzo and voila - you get two bottles.

I didn't ask but was it still sealed? Because no way would I trust a solution that wasn't sealed. I'm pretty sure they would only dispense in a sealed bottle if only to ensure sterility.

 

[General alcazar]

You can smoke memantine in a bong?

 

[letsparty]

It's just tempting that if someone has alprazolam solution... why not dilute it, add an RC benzo and voila - you get two bottles.

I didn't ask but was it still sealed? Because no way would I trust a solution that wasn't sealed. I'm pretty sure they would only dispense in a sealed bottle if only to ensure sterility.

Yessir. Sealed and from a trusted source ..

 

[SuperPsych]

Just remembered one that I really enjoyed that wasn't on the scene for very long. 5-Methyl-Ethylone. It was very enjoyable. It was like a very light roll. Almost felt like methylone but far less pushy and stimulating. Music sounded great and I felt perfectly at peace washing dishes and chatting with my GF at the time while she was in the dining room drawing

 

[unodelacosa]

Memantine and 97+ % pure hydromorphone powder smoked from bong

Well so Namenda and Dilaudid are not rare drugs, and smoking opiate-containing tablets is common in some places like South Africa. However I will admit: I've personally never talked with someone who's had that exact combo. How was it? Memantine can be a horrible, long-lasting time if one takes too much. And there are many Dilaudid users who would argue that smoking it is a waste of good drugs (bc it's not IV), but they're missing the point entirely. Seriously, what was the high like in your words? I have some memantine now… is it worth smoking it in your opinion?