Opioids dihydrocodeine

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Hi, I wondered if anyone can advise on the best use of dihydrocodeine, for someone like me on a low dose of buprenorphine (40mg in patches, equivalent to about 1-2mg sublingual daily).

I usually find the bupe sits under whatever better opiate I get my hands on, it doesn't seem to block it for me (56kg female).
I'm a fan of poppy pods, usually found with a flask of said tea nearby, very discreet and quite amusing to sit with grannies drinking my tea perfectly openly, it's my herbal tea, medicinal, .

Anyway, these DHC fell into my lap recently. This morning I crushed 180mg with water and plugged it, whoosh, about ten minutes later I was feeling good, took the dog for a walk, my pupils are still gone, good to know it can have an effect on me, but that was nearly an hour ago, it only lasted a very short duration. I still have a little buzz and a slight sickly feel to my stomach, how do I lengthen the time and how much is safe to take? I've another 114 of 30mg DHC to play with.

I took 600mg pregabalin to try to bring it back up, gotta wait for that to kick in, just ate those.

I think I'm not good at processing codeine btw, it never has an effect that I've noticed even after cold washing bigger doses. My belief was that DHC overcomes this problem?

 

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Well, it got better!

I thought that ws all I was getting, no, I'm complettely fucked up now, 3 hours later, mind you had a couple of pregablin and vaped some weed, but I'm defo more fucked than ysterday when I just had pods, three pregab 300, and weed, kots of weed, so much I'm running low on that.. Noone I know with it is in their own houses atm through various reasons, I wouldn't drive now

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Unfortunately I've never tried DHC, so I don't have much advice to offer. I think it's basically just a 2-3x more potent synthetic version of codeine.
But I too was some one who never really felt much from codeine for some reason. Yet I love opioids like tramadol.

I remember once, I traded a shit ton of my moms klonopin for 8 codeine pills (this was back when I was still somewhat ignorant about pharmacology).
And those 8 pills did absolutely jack shit. In the end it felt like an unfair trade. lol

Glad to hear it got better though! Have fun & be safe!
Cheers!

 

[KurtAurelius]

Hi, I wondered if anyone can advise on the best use of dihydrocodeine, for someone like me on a low dose of buprenorphine (40mg in patches, equivalent to about 1-2mg sublingual daily).

I usually find the bupe sits under whatever better opiate I get my hands on, it doesn't seem to block it for me (56kg female).
I'm a fan of poppy pods, usually found with a flask of said tea nearby, very discreet and quite amusing to sit with grannies drinking my tea perfectly openly, it's my herbal tea, medicinal, .

Anyway, these DHC fell into my lap recently. This morning I crushed 180mg with water and plugged it, whoosh, about ten minutes later I was feeling good, took the dog for a walk, my pupils are still gone, good to know it can have an effect on me, but that was nearly an hour ago, it only lasted a very short duration. I still have a little buzz and a slight sickly feel to my stomach, how do I lengthen the time and how much is safe to take? I've another 114 of 30mg DHC to play with.

I took 600mg pregabalin to try to bring it back up, gotta wait for that to kick in, just ate those.

I think I'm not good at processing codeine btw, it never has an effect that I've noticed even after cold washing bigger doses. My belief was that DHC overcomes this problem?

Purely anecdotal but I found my tolerance to DHC effected the duration and gave frustrating dimensioning returns.

I obtained 56 120mg DHC Continus (ER that crushes like butter) and 2 would honestly give me 8 hours of very moderate, present warmth, euphoria, perfect itch level and those beautiful constricted pupils before mellowing out for the last 4 or so..

I chipped that 1/2 a week for a while, and I didn’t defeat the mechanism, but it still slightly waned over time but reasonably slow.

I experimented with more, I believe 360-420mg and found more unpleasant with worse sides such as nausea, flushes, and to much itchy for no more euphoria, and more unpleasant sedation, it’s stated DHC does not have a ceiling and this may of been tolerance but I got this after a month of chipping 240mg. The 420mg can be attributed to having a half of a 120mg which would have meant the mechanism was defeated.

I fucked about more and more, and started defeating the mechanism and taking 240mg one pop, worked better but would only get 3 hours strong effect like before and a weird long underflow of itchiness, constipation etc. sometimes lasting really long.

The last bit can be attributed to tolerance but further attempts at 300-420mg with total crushing lent to nothing better in euphoria, I was more tolerant to the sides but even raising the dose gave little. This was at the end of the chip and I pushed it to doing 3 times a week and even one double session.

Back to you.. I’m very shocked the DHC is working with the Bupe Dose, but I may have my knowledge wrong regarding Bupe Tolerance and its equipotency to a very specific comparison (the 1-2mg Bupe to 180mg DHC plugged)

I’ll attribute this to plugging as it significantly raises the bioavailability. I plugged only 60mg once as I was worried with no tolerance and I got a mega rush. It went after 2-3 hours flat and I never repeated as I panicked about the extended release binders..

Taking DHC orally is much lower? I’m being lazy to not look but I think it’s the 20-40% range with some individualism, plus the fact it has active metabolites from memory that are meaningfully adding to effects alongside the DHC on its own.

Unless you take tolerance breaks etc, the 180mg is going to get less and less effective but that’s obvious. If you want bang for buck plug it, you can take more but it’s a self ending prophecy.

I liked DHC a lot and found it unique and overall preferable to Codeine but it seemed to quickly change in duration and effect. I get so antsy on any Opioid but it was quite severe on DHC, funnily enough right after the euphoria left (wonder why?)

 

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Purely anecdotal but I found my tolerance to DHC effected the duration and gave frustrating dimensioning returns.

I obtained 56 120mg DHC Continus (ER that crushes like butter) and 2 would honestly give me 8 hours of very moderate, present warmth, euphoria, perfect itch level and those beautiful constricted pupils before mellowing out for the last 4 or so..

I chipped that 1/2 a week for a while, and I didn’t defeat the mechanism, but it still slightly waned over time but reasonably slow.

I experimented with more, I believe 360-420mg and found more unpleasant with worse sides such as nausea, flushes, and to much itchy for no more euphoria, and more unpleasant sedation, it’s stated DHC does not have a ceiling and this may of been tolerance but I got this after a month of chipping 240mg. The 420mg can be attributed to having a half of a 120mg which would have meant the mechanism was defeated.

I fucked about more and more, and started defeating the mechanism and taking 240mg one pop, worked better but would only get 3 hours strong effect like before and a weird long underflow of itchiness, constipation etc. sometimes lasting really long.

The last bit can be attributed to tolerance but further attempts at 300-420mg with total crushing lent to nothing better in euphoria, I was more tolerant to the sides but even raising the dose gave little. This was at the end of the chip and I pushed it to doing 3 times a week and even one double session.

Back to you.. I’m very shocked the DHC is working with the Bupe Dose, but I may have my knowledge wrong regarding Bupe Tolerance and its equipotency to a very specific comparison (the 1-2mg Bupe to 180mg DHC plugged)

I’ll attribute this to plugging as it significantly raises the bioavailability. I plugged only 60mg once as I was worried with no tolerance and I got a mega rush. It went after 2-3 hours flat and I never repeated as I panicked about the extended release binders..

Taking DHC orally is much lower? I’m being lazy to not look but I think it’s the 20-40% range with some individualism, plus the fact it has active metabolites from memory that are meaningfully adding to effects alongside the DHC on its own.

Unless you take tolerance breaks etc, the 180mg is going to get less and less effective but that’s obvious. If you want bang for buck plug it, you can take more but it’s a self ending prophecy.

I liked DHC a lot and found it unique and overall preferable to Codeine but it seemed to quickly change in duration and effect. I get so antsy on any Opioid but it was quite severe on DHC, funnily enough right after the euphoria left (wonder why?)

Thank you, that's very useful to hear your experiences. I haven't repeated it yet, I sort of forgot about them and I've been taking pod tea and pregabalin, it's a great combination.
So both dhc and pregab tolerance builds quickly, then I know to alternate them and take breaks from both.
I'm sorry I'm a bit fuzzy, I thought I was out of weed, then found 10g down the side of the bed, I'm telling you it's good to be messy

 

[justme6263]

Hi, I wondered if anyone can advise on the best use of dihydrocodeine, for someone like me on a low dose of buprenorphine (40mg in patches, equivalent to about 1-2mg sublingual daily).

I usually find the bupe sits under whatever better opiate I get my hands on, it doesn't seem to block it for me (56kg female).
I'm a fan of poppy pods, usually found with a flask of said tea nearby, very discreet and quite amusing to sit with grannies drinking my tea perfectly openly, it's my herbal tea, medicinal, .

Anyway, these DHC fell into my lap recently. This morning I crushed 180mg with water and plugged it, whoosh, about ten minutes later I was feeling good, took the dog for a walk, my pupils are still gone, good to know it can have an effect on me, but that was nearly an hour ago, it only lasted a very short duration. I still have a little buzz and a slight sickly feel to my stomach, how do I lengthen the time and how much is safe to take? I've another 114 of 30mg DHC to play with.

I took 600mg pregabalin to try to bring it back up, gotta wait for that to kick in, just ate those.

I think I'm not good at processing codeine btw, it never has an effect that I've noticed even after cold washing bigger doses. My belief was that DHC overcomes this problem?

I find that if I use a full agonist on top of the bupe then it will fuck me up, it doesn't block it at all and I am on 16mg bupe dose daily. It really has pissed me off because I was sold a lie that it blocks all and every opiate for 36 hours at least - I need something to block because I love opiates too much. The draw is too strong.

As for DHC - I neve have had a good time with this opiate, ever, it makes me feel sick as a dog (and I've been a daily H user for years), it makes me itch more than anything I've ever come across and I nearly scratch my scalp off, and finally is blocks my sinuses fully and completely. I'm glad you had fun with it though - I know lots who love the stuff.

 

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I find that if I use a full agonist on top of the bupe then it will fuck me up, it doesn't block it at all and I am on 16mg bupe dose daily. It really has pissed me off because I was sold a lie that it blocks all and every opiate for 36 hours at least - I need something to block because I love opiates too much. The draw is too strong.

As for DHC - I neve have had a good time with this opiate, ever, it makes me feel sick as a dog (and I've been a daily H user for years), it makes me itch more than anything I've ever come across and I nearly scratch my scalp off, and finally is blocks my sinuses fully and completely. I'm glad you had fun with it though - I know lots who love the stuff.

I'm kinda relieved I'm not alone in the "bupe doesn't block anything" opinion.
Even when I've worn 6 patches (they are too itchy to wear more) I have not noticed any drop in how well I feel opiates.
I put it down to each patch only being worth about 0.25mg sublingually, so I couldn't get over 2mg in total with patches.
However, justme6263 I don't think you were mis-sold intentionally because these patches have blocked heroin in a friend, but wouldn't in me, blocked at a much lower dose than your 16mg.

I wonder what makes us similar but others are different?
Generally medicines don't work as expected for me. I've an underlying health problem which is why I get patches at all. I think for me that is the reason they don't work well, I tend to wear them a week or two then go back to something better for the pain relief, then back to the patches to avoid withdrawal, I get 6 or 7 each month.

That's the other thing, I don't think putting on patches when I've a full agonist in me has ever made me feel worse, which implies the full agonist isn't getting knocked off the receptors by buprenorphine, no pwd, thank fuck.

I've been given other medicines in patch form as well and I'm always left wondering how much of it crossed from my skin to my bloodstream, it seems a big jump, but the area under the patch goes red, so I guess the blood vessels move towards the patch. I definitely feel something from bupe patches, not a lot though.

 

[justme6263]

I'm kinda relieved I'm not alone in the "bupe doesn't block anything" opinion.
Even when I've worn 6 patches (they are too itchy to wear more) I have not noticed any drop in how well I feel opiates.
I put it down to each patch only being worth about 0.25mg sublingually, so I couldn't get over 2mg in total with patches.
However, justme6263 I don't think you were mis-sold intentionally because these patches have blocked heroin in a friend, but wouldn't in me, blocked at a much lower dose than your 16mg.

I wonder what makes us similar but others are different?
Generally medicines don't work as expected for me. I've an underlying health problem which is why I get patches at all. I think for me that is the reason they don't work well, I tend to wear them a week or two then go back to something better for the pain relief, then back to the patches to avoid withdrawal, I get 6 or 7 each month.

That's the other thing, I don't think putting on patches when I've a full agonist in me has ever made me feel worse, which implies the full agonist isn't getting knocked off the receptors by buprenorphine, no pwd, thank fuck.

I've been given other medicines in patch form as well and I'm always left wondering how much of it crossed from my skin to my bloodstream, it seems a big jump, but the area under the patch goes red, so I guess the blood vessels move towards the patch. I definitely feel something from bupe patches, not a lot though.

I think you're right abut this tbh - I have a lot of friends who are on much less a bupe dose than me, some as low as 6mg, and it blocks any any all other full agonist opioids (unless they use loads that is aha). I am from the UK and I test every bag of 'H' I score and every single time, no matter who I score off, will test positive for nitazenes or (less often than nitazenes but more and more frequently) fentanyl. Maybe they're too strong and overrun the receptors thus rendering bupe pointless.

Similar to yourself medications often don't work as they are expected to for me which, I don't know if you agree, leads to so many issues trying too find meds that will work. I have a number of mental health issues, largely due to drug abuse for so long to take full responsibility, but I my GP is great and really tries to find solutions.

I've never used skin patches - my bupe comes in the new Espranor tongue 'waffer'. They keep me well at least, never ever ill, and its stbalised my life a lot havng that regular and reliable long lasting opiate to stop the need to score every 6 hours.

Ps - if this isn't too much to ask, I've always wanted to try poppy tea, is there any way you could DM me a recipe to make some please? No worries if you can't.

 

[KurtAurelius]

Thank you, that's very useful to hear your experiences. I haven't repeated it yet, I sort of forgot about them and I've been taking pod tea and pregabalin, it's a great combination.
So both dhc and pregab tolerance builds quickly, then I know to alternate them and take breaks from both.
I'm sorry I'm a bit fuzzy, I thought I was out of weed, then found 10g down the side of the bed, I'm telling you it's good to be messy

Always wanted to try poppy seed tea but I remember freaking myself out with the other alkaloids (think thebaine?) and variability in amounts.

One time as a wee lad, I found tons of pods in the right state to use for a tea and I got to freaked lol. I can’t imagine how it would of went..

 

[KurtAurelius]

I think you're right abut this tbh - I have a lot of friends who are on much less a bupe dose than me, some as low as 6mg, and it blocks any any all other full agonist opioids (unless they use loads that is aha). I am from the UK and I test every bag of 'H' I score and every single time, no matter who I score off, will test positive for nitazenes or (less often than nitazenes but more and more frequently) fentanyl. Maybe they're too strong and overrun the receptors thus rendering bupe pointless.

Similar to yourself medications often don't work as they are expected to for me which, I don't know if you agree, leads to so many issues trying too find meds that will work. I have a number of mental health issues, largely due to drug abuse for so long to take full responsibility, but I my GP is great and really tries to find solutions.

I've never used skin patches - my bupe comes in the new Espranor tongue 'waffer'. They keep me well at least, never ever ill, and its stbalised my life a lot havng that regular and reliable long lasting opiate to stop the need to score every 6 hours.

Ps - if this isn't too much to ask, I've always wanted to try poppy tea, is there any way you could DM me a recipe to make some please? No worries if you can't.

Proper fucked regarding Fentanyl and Zenes here, I imagine Fent has been in the UK for ages now but still unpleasant. Granted getting Gear likely was always dodgy before the Mega Compounds, but it just seems apocalyptic.

No idea regarding bindings but it lends to worry that Methadone or Bupe replacement will be inert, and there’s no way our GoV could be competent enough to introduce any kind of solution.

Never will not think about that successful clinic that prescribed Medical Grade Diamorphine.. it worked to well, what a joke lol.

 

[justme6263]

Proper fucked regarding Fentanyl and Zenes here, I imagine Fent has been in the UK for ages now but still unpleasant. Granted getting Gear likely was always dodgy before the Mega Compounds, but it just seems apocalyptic.

No idea regarding bindings but it lends to worry that Methadone or Bupe replacement will be inert, and there’s no way our GoV could be competent enough to introduce any kind of solution.

Never will not think about that successful clinic that prescribed Medical Grade Diamorphine.. it worked to well, what a joke lol.

What? Please tell me more - that seems like a mental idea...

Brother the situation here regarding brown and getting real stuff is a fucking shit show -yeah these ridiculously strong synthetic opioids will stop your rattle and keep you well, but the nod/gouch is bollocks. There is no such thing as true H in the UK anymore and if you do find any then my gosh that is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I remember the days when you got that ready brek feeling, if you from the UK and remember the old ad with the ready brek guy and the red warm glow he got then you know the feeling I mean. Its just not the same. Back then at least you got something for you addiction but now you just get a potential death dose told to you for a tenner and an insult.

 

[KurtAurelius]

What? Please tell me more - that seems like a mental idea...

Brother the situation here regarding brown and getting real stuff is a fucking shit show -yeah these ridiculously strong synthetic opioids will stop your rattle and keep you well, but the nod/gouch is bollocks. There is no such thing as true H in the UK anymore and if you do find any then my gosh that is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I remember the days when you got that ready brek feeling, if you from the UK and remember the old ad with the ready brek guy and the red warm glow he got then you know the feeling I mean. It’s just not the same. Back then at least you got something for you addiction but now you just get a potential death dose told to you for a tenner and an insult.

I can try find you the study etc, but I’ve heard that they prescribed ampules to addicts who were proper ingrained into the street, clean works and they could get up to 250mg total daily depending on habit,

It does sound mental but it worked like a charm, these guys were robbing and such, and apparently they all settled into work and made a mega change, and were happy, healthy and productive to the community.

I might be misremembering but this stopped and a lot of them got forced oral methadone. They then went back to rob and be on the streets.

I’ve always heard the synths will just have a stupefying nod, no euphoria and piss poor legs.. and of course causing these crazy habits

I had ready brek as a whipper! Favourite memories is having it and watching cartoons with my dad before school. Was innocent and sweet.

I wanted to try brown but was to scared to cold cop, as then I was a whimpy fat goth, who would be a prime target for a mugging. And I got my hands on plenty of Pharma stuff, and even fentanyl patches and numerous occasions with God (Oxycodone)

It won’t ever happen now for millions of reasons, I could never obtain anything safe enough. For the best of course but was a teenage fantasy of mine to imitate Kurt Cobain and the rest lol.

 

[KurtAurelius]

What? Please tell me more - that seems like a mental idea...

Just from a lazy brave search and AI response

The first UK pilot programme for Heroin-Assisted Treatment (HAT), a form of heroin replacement therapy, began in Middlesbrough in October 2019, marking the first service outside of a trial setting in England. This programme, which provided twice-daily supervised injections of pharmaceutical-grade heroin (diamorphine) to high-risk individuals who had not responded to conventional treatments like methadone, was closed in 2022. A qualitative study of the Middlesbrough HAT programme, published in 2023, found that while participants faced challenges related to regulatory constraints and uncertainty about funding, they experienced significant benefits, including reduced engagement with the illicit drug market and strong supportive relationships with service providers.

• The Middlesbrough HAT pilot was the first of its kind in the UK, adopting a whole systems approach and partly funded by the local police and crime commissioner.
• International evidence, including the UK's Randomised Injectable Opiate Treatment Trial (RIOTT), shows that HAT significantly reduces illicit heroin use and criminal activity compared to standard opioid substitution treatments.
• Despite the proven effectiveness of HAT, the closure of the Middlesbrough programme in 2022 means the service is no longer available to the community, though its findings are intended to inform future advocacy and innovation for HAT in England.

I don’t know if I was thinking about something further back, as I thought it wasn’t as recent as 2022

 

[justme6263]

I can try find you the study etc, but I’ve heard that they prescribed ampules to addicts who were proper ingrained into the street, clean works and they could get up to 250mg total daily depending on habit,

It does sound mental but it worked like a charm, these guys were robbing and such, and apparently they all settled into work and made a mega change, and were happy, healthy and productive to the community.

I might be misremembering but this stopped and a lot of them got forced oral methadone. They then went back to rob and be on the streets.

I’ve always heard the synths will just have a stupefying nod, no euphoria and piss poor legs.. and of course causing these crazy habits

I had ready brek as a whipper! Favourite memories is having it and watching cartoons with my dad before school. Was innocent and sweet.

I wanted to try brown but was to scared to cold cop, as then I was a whimpy fat goth, who would be a prime target for a mugging. And I got my hands on plenty of Pharma stuff, and even fentanyl patches and numerous occasions with God (Oxycodone)

It won’t ever happen now for millions of reasons, I could never obtain anything safe enough. For the best of course but was a teenage fantasy of mine to imitate Kurt Cobain and the rest lol.

I more meant mental as in mental that they would offer such treatment, treatments offered usually aren't well thought out and are designed for a legalised drug economy. Oral methadone is a con - it is a pure con and gets addicts nothing more than another addiction to deal with, at least bupe has its benefits despite it not being perfect.

Thanks for going into it for me though, it blows my mind that they find a treatment that has positive results but then they stop it for whatever reason.

I've never tried Oxycodone or Oxycontin - I would really like to though, its incredibly rare in the UK as far as I am aware. I've never come across it in all these years.

This medical grade diamorphine, clean works and a sanatised place to shoot or smoke is exactly whats needed, I've thought so for decades as my Dad is a 40 year long addiction to H and something like this would have helped him. Methadone made him worse, he refuses bupe for some reason.

Mate - this was my exact reason for starting, I thought it was cool af and wanted to be like the rock stars I idolised. Plus I wanted to see why Dad loved it so much he fucked up his family. Then I learnt, I really did learn.

 

[KurtAurelius]

I more meant mental as in mental that they would offer such treatment, treatments offered usually aren't well thought out and are designed for a legalised drug economy. Oral methadone is a con - it is a pure con and gets addicts nothing more than another addiction to deal with, at least bupe has its benefits despite it not being perfect.

Thanks for going into it for me though, it blows my mind that they find a treatment that has positive results but then they stop it for whatever reason.

I've never tried Oxycodone or Oxycontin - I would really like to though, its incredibly rare in the UK as far as I am aware. I've never come across it in all these years.

This medical grade diamorphine, clean works and a sanatised place to shoot or smoke is exactly whats needed, I've thought so for decades as my Dad is a 40 year long addiction to H and something like this would have helped him. Methadone made him worse, he refuses bupe for some reason.

Mate - this was my exact reason for starting, I thought it was cool af and wanted to be like the rock stars I idolised. Plus I wanted to see why Dad loved it so much he fucked up his family. Then I learnt, I really did learn.

Ah my bad dude.. I see and agree too, you wouldn’t expect to see such a open minded approach!

Oral methadone is a joke, the fact that it is given racemic with a toxic isomer and all the other strings along with it too, the money, and the lack of other support with it.

I’ve been told there was outside pressure from other governments or the UN or whatever to shut it down. But IMO the uk has been following the masses and neglecting its people because of oversee faff for yonks now.

It’s like you say, it’s the closet solution to the problem, and if someone fucks the program and goes and buy street stuff after being given pharma grade Diamorphine that’s on them, not the treatment.

It’s a general echo of the whole legalisation thing anyway, if provided in a safe way, it would always be a net benefit to society. People will always want drugs, and some people are committed to treating them as one of their total needs.

Ahahah I did too. Went through sea of shit to find out it’s largely not worth the hassle. And I was far luckier than most, without having to do any rehab or be left with any permanent damage (so far).

 

[Opih8]

Hi, I wondered if anyone can advise on the best use of dihydrocodeine, for someone like me on a low dose of buprenorphine (40mg in patches, equivalent to about 1-2mg sublingual daily).

I usually find the bupe sits under whatever better opiate I get my hands on, it doesn't seem to block it for me (56kg female).
I'm a fan of poppy pods, usually found with a flask of said tea nearby, very discreet and quite amusing to sit with grannies drinking my tea perfectly openly, it's my herbal tea, medicinal, .

Anyway, these DHC fell into my lap recently. This morning I crushed 180mg with water and plugged it, whoosh, about ten minutes later I was feeling good, took the dog for a walk, my pupils are still gone, good to know it can have an effect on me, but that was nearly an hour ago, it only lasted a very short duration. I still have a little buzz and a slight sickly feel to my stomach, how do I lengthen the time and how much is safe to take? I've another 114 of 30mg DHC to play with.

I took 600mg pregabalin to try to bring it back up, gotta wait for that to kick in, just ate those.

I think I'm not good at processing codeine btw, it never has an effect that I've noticed even after cold washing bigger doses. My belief was that DHC overcomes this problem?

Fraid to say that tolerance to dhc30mg is notoriously fukd up . Buzz on 180mg is 4hr max and after first one or 2 hits u have to take more than that, Basically you will get through 100 of them in no time at all and have alovely new habit to withdraw from. I convinced my doc to switch me on to the modified release ones which ,after they're in ur system last 12 hrs. Maybe u could swap with someone.

 

[WellTram]

Try DHC Continus Brand, they really last for 12 hours. 60mg Is like 100-200mg of IR tramadol. IR tramadol also lasts quite long...

 

[Opih8]

Hey dude, I get DHC mr 90 mg & 120mg (1each a day) - they are good for rattling but at the same time they have to get into your system first so it takes a day and a half or so +4 people like myself who are DHC tolerance it takes a little bit more (x3 of one or the other!) to get me feeling ok - usually along with a 300mg gaba. I’ve found that tramadol is a bit like marmite - you either love it or you hate it. Personally I hate it. I have taken it twice (only 2 of them!) and both times it has sent me scuttling to my bed for 12 hours, 1 Temgesic did the same !! I’ve also never understood how Temgesic (an opioid) , in buprenorphine , gets you clean while you are still taking an opioid? Maybe I’m just a lot more stupid than I actually thought I was though there was always that chance.. lol