I actually don't think that I've ever tried any dissociative with an empathogen, despite my absolutely loving and being fascinated by dissociatives.
Well then you're in for a treat. I like to start with the empathogen and just do bumps of the disso during most of its duration, dipping my foot into the waters, as it were. When that ends, I like to dive into the disso and take a swim in the dissociative pool, either a k-hole or its equivalent from another dissociative. People used to talk about MXE as having an "m-hole" which made me think: then does PCP have a p-hole? Lol. (For the record, it does, but it's something to stay out of… in other words, "stay out of the p-hole" is my policy in more than one way, lol)
Hell yeah, I love that stuff. For me it's like 5-APB > MDA > MDMA, but I know not everyone agrees. Still, 5-APB is some real kick-ass stuff.
I'll have to try that sometime. Unfortunately I don't have anyone to do this with at the moment. I'll have to make some like minded friends.
Go to shows. Music is a compelling social glue.
Allylescaline … I imagine vaping would be a good way to increase effects after an oral dose. … Vaping seems like a great idea for that. Or maybe some Mescaline with some AL vaped when desired
It's even easier when you make yourself some Allylescaline e-juice and use that to fill up one of the newer pod vaporizer devices…
Damn thats wild. Ugh the last DOB i took (3.6mg) at the 12 hour mark i also tried to tap out and took some clonazepam and yes it brought trip down, for a while. The benzo wore off and i was still tripping
Not sure ill ever take it again, maybe with the right girlfriend..
To be fair, you really went for the gusto there with the 3.6 mg dose. I think ~2.5 mg would've been more than enough. The tabs I have are 0.75 mg, which is low enough to where one hit is mild, but enough to get a feel for the drug for about 8 hrs. Two hits (1.5 mg) are about right for most ppl to have a serious trip for maybe 12 hrs. Three hits would put you at 2.25 mg, and that's where it starts getting really strong with potentially uncomfortable body load. Expect to trip for some 15 hrs. Four hits would put you at a solid 3.0 mg. That's gonna have you tripping for ~20 hrs. Five hits, or a half a ten strip of DOB, would be 3.75 mg, which is just a bit over your 3.6 mg dose. At that point the hypertensions becomes almost spasmodic and the waves of energy ripples pulse through the body in concentric rings. All color is electrified and covered with animated patterns while every surface and plane undulate and breathe psychedelia into the fabric of the universe. This is cool… initially, but after 24 hrs., that's an exhausting ride.
As far as very long lasting DOx compounds go, DOPr was pretty magical.. it didnt string me out like DOB does..
DOM really is an excellent drug though, no bullshit. Something about its particular setup with the lower weight methyl group at the magical 4-position changes its qualitative effects such that it's lighter on the body, friendlier in the headspace, and mercifully not quite as long in duration at its substituted analogs and homologs. Personally I'd rather take DOM than any of the others I've tried. I have yet to encounter DOPr but I would definitely give it a whirl. What dose do you recommend?
Out of all of the 2,4,5-trisubstituted phenethylamines you've tried, which have stood out at the most unique, interesting, or useful?
FWIW, DOM is my personal favorite, mostly bc it's not as uncomfortable as the other compounds in its class.
Seems like it'd be a great feeling combo. I enjoy mixing dissociatives with just about anything but weed. I have holed on 3-HO-PCP a couple of times and have gone into somewhat similar states on 3-MeO-PCP. 3-HO-PCP holes can be nice but I think it's typically best to stay away from attempting it as its a fine line between a hole and a blackout. 3-MeO-PCP didn't give me the sensation of the body being distorted and floating across the universe that is characteristic of a dissociative "hole", but it gave me some wildly vivid closed eye visuals of gothic city scapes and intricate machinery. Sort of a city version of "Howl's Moving Castle".
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