Opioids Abrupt reduction of my methadone dose

[Nicocastillo7]

Hello everyone.
I don't really know where to post this...
I'm sure some of you know me or have read me before. I'm from Argentina.
I was taking methadone in the past for my opioid abuse, but now I only take it for "maintenance," apparently. My dose isn't that high, so when I mention the dose, someone will probably think "this is nonsense."
20mg every day, all this year and parts of last year. Two weeks ago, my doctor decided to abruptly reduce me from 20mg to 10mg, also taking me off 2.5mg of lorazepam (I was taking 5mg total).
So I went from taking 20mg of methadone with 5mg of lorazepam to 10mg of methadone and 2.5mg... and my God. I've been suffering all week. I've been smoking a lot of marijuana, but it only helps a little. Yesterday I was in the hospital, and today when I went to take my dose an hour ago, the methadone dose is 5mg and 1.25mg of lorazepam. Only for this week, and then no more methadone for me. And why? Because the doctor thought it was the right thing to do. Oh, and because she doesn't want to see me anymore. And yesterday, in a very unprofessional and unfriendly manner, she told me to find another doctor. This has me so upset, not because I'm going to stop taking methadone, but because the abrupt reduction has me screwed. Now, on the 30th, I'm no longer receiving methadone. The truth is, I've already been through this or something similar, but what should I do? To avoid suffering so much, I mean.
Two weeks ago, I had a problem, a big problem. I owed money to a guy, but he said, "Get me a package and we'll be even. You don't owe me anything." Because of the amount I owed, and since I have no income, I accepted.
As I was about to walk out the door, someone stopped me, showing me his "Gendarmeria Nacional" badge, and from that moment on, everything went to hell. They raided my house, I became even more depressed than I was, and during my visit to the doctor that week, the whole abrupt reduction thing happened.
In short, I'm screwed.
What should I do? I'm referring to methadone; my legal issues are a separate issue.
How could I make this less painful? Should I succumb to checking into a rehab clinic? I'm not using any other drugs besides marijuana.

 

[Señor Moreno]

Hola Nico. Weren't you on tramadol? Moving from tramadol to methadone to quit probably wasn't your best move. Tramadol is insidious with it's double nature, but, as an opioid, methadone is much, much, stronger and longer lasting.
Your doctor is an useless bitch who probably have no fucking clue about what is she doing. I bet finding a good opioid addiction specialist there is hard cause Argentina is not a place with too many opi addicts. What she did isn't a reduction, it's a mutilation of your dose and it could end with no other outcome that you being in wds.
From now on you have two options: or you find another opioid source to stay on it forever

 

[Señor Moreno]

Sorry
I say that you stay on opis forever or you eventually will have to quit
Being that you already are suffering, I think your best bet is to bite the bullet and quit, specially if you will have legal issues waiting for you. By the 30th you will have your last dose, from then on you could try and get some meds if you can. Lyrica should be on the top of your list along with clonidine. Lyrica will take care of the worst of it all, while clonidine will help with bp peaks and the hot cold flashes. Some loperamide for the shits maybe useful but don't overdo it.
It would be important that the bitch doesn't cut you the lorazepam also. If she does, I would try and find another doctor willing to prescribe you long lasting benzos, clonazepam or even better diazepam, and I would stay on them for a while until mdone wds subside, and then quit the benzos if that's your choice.
Be aware that mdone wds aren't kuke other opis, they last forever, don't thing that your brain or receptors are fucked for good if you still feel bad three or more weeks after last dose. It's a very ling wd but it eventually it will end, I promise you.
Good luck.
Ánimo! Si lo necesitas puedes mandarme un PM y me cuentas qué tal vas.
Buena suerte y sé fuerte!!

 

[Nicocastillo7]

It's complicated. Although I was abusing tramadol in very high doses, I also used oxycodone and morphine sometimes. Even so, they thought that methadone in that dose was helpful, and it was. But now it's a real problem and a real hell... I let the doctor know yesterday that what she was doing wasn't right, but you know how doctors are. I don't have a PhD, so I "don't know about that."
I have some like 20 pills of 2mg clonazepam stashed away and some lorazepam 2.5mg too (which the gendarmeria didn't take when they raided my house, thank god). The problem is finding another doctor. I don't think anyone in the health system wants to get involved. It seems like they hate me. I don't know why, but the health system hates me.. It seems like they hate me. She even took me off 300mg of Lyrica a day that I was taking, without reduction, for no reason other than "it's not helping you."
Today I took 20mg of loperamide with omeprazole and I'm not going to tell you that I'm better, I don't feel well.
I'm really scared. I don't know if I'm going to end up in jail. They have my cell phone, and my God, I have a lot of stuff in there that I shouldn't have, so I really don't know what to do. It's one of those situations where you think, "If I kill someone, it probably doesn't matter, I'm screwed anyway."

 

[Nicocastillo7]

Maybe not, and I hope I don't end up in jail; in my current state, that would ruin me. I also don't have the money to afford another source of opioids, so yes, I'm screwed in many ways.

 

[SeekingOblivion]

This all sounds bad, I am sorry. I hope you don’t have to go to jail. If you suspect it coming, my advice is to taper off everything before you get there.

 

[thurston]

It's complicated. Although I was abusing tramadol in very high doses, I also used oxycodone and morphine sometimes. Even so, they thought that methadone in that dose was helpful, and it was. But now it's a real problem and a real hell... I let the doctor know yesterday that what she was doing wasn't right, but you know how doctors are. I don't have a PhD, so I "don't know about that."
I have some like 20 pills of 2mg clonazepam stashed away and some lorazepam 2.5mg too (which the gendarmeria didn't take when they raided my house, thank god). The problem is finding another doctor. I don't think anyone in the health system wants to get involved. It seems like they hate me. I don't know why, but the health system hates me.. It seems like they hate me. She even took me off 300mg of Lyrica a day that I was taking, without reduction, for no reason other than "it's not helping you."
Today I took 20mg of loperamide with omeprazole and I'm not going to tell you that I'm better, I don't feel well.
I'm really scared. I don't know if I'm going to end up in jail. They have my cell phone, and my God, I have a lot of stuff in there that I shouldn't have, so I really don't know what to do. It's one of those situations where you think, "If I kill someone, it probably doesn't matter, I'm screwed anyway."

Can you wipe your phone remotely?

 

[4DQSAR]

Can you wipe your phone remotely?

You can certainly brick a SIM using OTA installation of a malign Javacard applet.

 

[yallcowardsdonteven]

Hola Nico. Weren't you on tramadol? Moving from tramadol to methadone to quit probably wasn't your best move. Tramadol is insidious with it's double nature, but, as an opioid, methadone is much, much, stronger and longer lasting.
Your doctor is an useless bitch who probably have no fucking clue about what is she doing. I bet finding a good opioid addiction specialist there is hard cause Argentina is not a place with too many opi addicts. What she did isn't a reduction, it's a mutilation of your dose and it could end with no other outcome that you being in wds.
From now on you have two options: or you find another opioid source to stay on it forever

this. life doesnt suck enough here for opioids being mainstream drugs. its only for the affluent. an 80mg oxy is +100 dollars, in a part of the world where most people have to live on 300-400 a month, if they have a 9to5.

if OP seriously suffers from discontinuing such low doses he should toughen up though. or come to paraguay, we have OTC ketamine and gabapentinoids