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After 49 years of optimism upon humanity please convince me I was right.

Hey, cam you elaborate you,re sentence?. What you mean when you say that you,re optimism of humanity?
 
neversickanymore said:
After 49 years of optimism of humanity please convince me I was right.
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If you are looking at just life and finite time then you were misguided. I think the nature of this world is dog eat dog. Speaking of eating we eat dead animals and plants. We have people killing each other for power Looks like a shit show so how can someone be optimistic?

If you are looking beyond this life, out to other galaxies and time, then you are 100% right. I think the basis of our life is optimism. A lot of us wale up every day, looking to make the world a better place. Music is a good example. But I always believe music has nothing to do with this world. It lifts the spirit out of this world to show us that there is more. Music is optimism, even when it’s about dark topics.

So I think you were right NSA. :)
 
neversickanymore said:
Yes, That humanity deserves optimism as a species.
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If you look at everyday anecdotes and events, you will lose hope. If you look at the macro level, of how much better humans have it now than we did 200 years ago, and our access to knowledge and advancement (if we choose to use it)... humanity is in an amazing place right now.

There are contraction periods and expansion periods. Right now I think we are in a contraction period. There always needs to be consolidation and tying up loose ends before the next big push. I personally can't wait for the next cultural renaissance after this period of stagnation is over. Hopefully it's within my lifetime.
 
i am usually optimistic and can usually turn shit into sugar but this type of outlook is slowly being "cancelled" (for lack of a better word) and misery loves company so humanity wants to snuff out that optimistic attitude and replace it with a chaotic, selfish and confused mentality.
keep the optimism and screw your neighbor (literally if they are fine as hell) and their follow me to hell with the anguish and grinding of teeth that comes with it.
i honestly do not think the way things are going is sustainable but on the other hand i do not stop giving help to those who cannot do for themselves. even if my day is shit there is no need to make someone elses day the same... just the opposite. drop that rock that creates good ripples (vibes) across the pond.
ymmv
 
neversickanymore said:
Yes, That humanity deserves optimism as a species.
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With the position we are in, although only a mere opinion, I err to hope that we can truthfully believe this.

For better or worse, we have generally provided a cosier and less brutal existence.

The modern world is its own hell, and I’ve only had peace with my prescribed medication.

But it gives me a slither of hope that wasn’t there. There are aids, improvements, and opportunities for change.

Currently I afford relatively stable housing that provides all I need, I have enough wealth and time to pursue meaningful hobbies, I have a community in my social circle who all enjoy each others presence, I have a job that could be better but still pays well enough and doesn’t carry baggage.

I’ve eaten many different meals, I’ve visited different countries, I’ve spent many days travelling and driving with my partner and just getting to observe life.

I wasn’t a peasant born into serfdom, conscripted into a war, and I was lucky to be born in the UK, which although cucked in its own ways I am still afforded a high quality of life, and living in a beautiful rural county.

I’ve lived in a era where free thought has been at is best, I can access plenty of information, and was allowed to come to my own conclusions.

I have a lovely slice of pie, and the fact is there’s enough resources for everyone to have it to, that’s the only failure we see now.

Outdated mandate on old views, and a constant struggle to maintain what we all know to be old and outdated.

Whether it’s drug policy, education etc, there’s the battle we see in the “democratic countries” to play it only safe, and stick to what apparently “works” when our situation and world has changed.

Our needs are the same but we can use our tools far wiser, and everyone can live as a king if all could see how little we really need.

We will crash and burn, or see to sense. Every point is a turning point, but now is a point of no return.

There is a hope and chance.

Have to see if we won’t waste it.
 
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Optimism and hope are what humans believe in order to get by and or deal with situational discourse. These are means for survival when the world we live in is shit.

I am not optimistic for positive change, however, I believe through experience our coping skills improve over time therefore quality of life also improves by default.
 
No -- I can't. Humanity is inherently bad (?) and something we must struggle against giving into.

When we don't dog eat dog -- which is what we have.

So no I have nothing
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
No -- I can't. Humanity is inherently bad (?)
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Not bad, just maladaptive at this point.

100,000 years of evolution helped us first survive, then thrive, and now totally dominate this planet. Our brains are basically wired the same as when we were still struggling -- tendencies toward tribalism, aggression, consumption, & exploitation served us well for a long time. Now these same inclinations may prove to be our undoing.

I predict that if we survive the next 100 years, we'll be around forever. Home Sapiens (thinking man) will have a chance to evolve into Homo Illuminatus (enlightened man).

I'd guess that our chances are 50/50.
 
Can't convince u in nothing bro...I am pessimistic by nature and this never served me well.....now trying to learn how to be optimistic.....no more news.....no more war vlogers.....trying to form my own future for me and my family...despite all the shit.....because I am still alive and instinct for survival dominate above all.what can change I will try.....other is a God's will
 
I’m generally pretty idealistic about people, and even I can’t convince you right now that humanity deserves optimism as a species.

I got saved in 2018 when I got clean for my first long stretch of sobriety. Stayed that way through my final relapse. I don’t want to veer too far into religion on your thread but even the Bible says humanity won’t last.

Been clean for 7 years now, and I can say definitively that I’ve seen more pure and genuine evil done by sober people than by any drug addict I ever knew. For some reason, that has seemed to ramp up by infinity over these last few months specifically.

Personally, I’ve lost my own optimism about humanity. I believe there’s always hope and I believe that a lot of people are inherently good. But that unfortunately won’t make a difference at this point. Scales are too imbalanced.

Personally, as a Christian, I’m just ready for Jesus to come back. I’m over dealing with people.
 
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