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๐Ÿ’‚โ€โ™‚๏ธ UK ๐Ÿ’‚โ€โ™‚๏ธ (I'd heard of this in America, but) UK now using painkillers to shut up/fob off patients?

I used to have a severe drinking problem.. I got hit by a car when I was drunk and high on weed, went into hospital.
I generally have very bad anxiety and panic attacks, but I'm not on benzo's anymore. They pulled me off them and I had to go through cold turkey.
I'm getting a little off topic there, but while in hospital, they gave me free Librium (chlordiazepoxide). I had never heard of it before.
It was probably the lowest dose they could offer, but I did ask for it more than once, because I felt it wasn't placebo and did help a little bit (Also to shut me up about asking for free benzo's)
They did give me about 3 librium capsules tho, over a span of about 2 hours.

I asked my doctor a few weeks later, if he could put me on this Librium, but he said that only the hospitals can give it out. Which sucked.
I don't plan to get sucked back into the Diazepam, I built up such a high tolerance that it didn't even work for me anymore.
 
What country, because doctors can prescribe it in America. Your doctor doesn't want to be give you libirum if you had a drinking problem. He also doesn't want to try to get you off, of it.

If the UK or elsewhere; no clue if he is lying
 
RoundLettuce said:
I used to have a severe drinking problem.. I got hit by a car when I was drunk and high on weed, went into hospital.
I generally have very bad anxiety and panic attacks, but I'm not on benzo's anymore. They pulled me off them and I had to go through cold turkey.
I'm getting a little off topic there, but while in hospital, they gave me free Librium (chlordiazepoxide). I had never heard of it before.
It was probably the lowest dose they could offer, but I did ask for it more than once, because I felt it wasn't placebo and did help a little bit (Also to shut me up about asking for free benzo's)
They did give me about 3 librium capsules tho, over a span of about 2 hours.

I asked my doctor a few weeks later, if he could put me on this Librium, but he said that only the hospitals can give it out. Which sucked.
I don't plan to get sucked back into the Diazepam, I built up such a high tolerance that it didn't even work for me anymore.
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AFAIK chlordiazepoxide is a benzo, they sometimes use it for alcohol withdrawal instead of diaz
 
The longest I had to wait was 18 hours (Canada). It was very unpleasant. No painkillers. Meh.
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
It's free in the sense that it's funding by taxes, so when you go to hospital, you don't have to actually pay, if you know what I mean. There'll be no bill or charge or anything. It technically IS free for me as I'm disabled and so don't pay taxes.
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Unless you buy nothing other than cold food and don't pay for your leccy bill you pay VAT
 
Recently, got told that theyโ€™ve made an appointment at the GP after waiting for 2 hours, cus they were full.
It was in 20 min, said if I hurry up or take an uber Iโ€™ll prolly make it in time after I barely got to the hospital. That was Urgent Care tho.

A&E put me in a room with some deathbedders once, scary af. One was just skin and bones.
 
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Zopiclone bandit said:
My mate who has been on Heroin for 10-12 years is on a Methadone script, his on 60mg daily, when he pissed dirty the drug worker marked him down on the notes as "High Risk" of an OD, they said mixing Methadone with Heroin made him a High Risk of going over, what a fucking joke.

Shipman really fucked things up, the NHS doctors should UNDERSTAND a thing called tolerance, it's like with Booze for example so someone who drinks strong Cider each day could slam half a litre of Vodka & be ok yet if I did the same I'd be on my back half dead as I hardly take Alcohol, someone who has been on 60mg of Methadone & has smoked 2-3 bags of Heroin each day for the last 3 years can take way more opiates than my Mother (who gets sick & goes on the nod with Codeine)
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Most of them arenโ€™t even Doctors, at least at my GP. I donโ€™t get why they even let these people work there, they donโ€™t even read your MHistory before seeing you and then tell you to just walk it off basically. At least itโ€™s not hard to dissolve co-codamol, thatโ€™s all they prescribe.
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
Not to dismiss your lived experiences but DFs used to be 5 for a tenner and Oxys were a few quid each on the street. Even diconal was fairly common a fair years ago. They can't have been that strict.
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I've never even HEARD of "DF's" or "Diconal". They definitely weren't/aren't common. I don't think they even exist here.
 
GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
Unless you buy nothing other than cold food and don't pay for your leccy bill you pay VAT
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I don't pay bills like electricity, no. Even if I did I'd be completely happy paying the taxes that fund the NHS. It is one million percent worth it since it means everybody can get access to treatments, surgeries, meds etc that they need,
 
Lux Exterior said:
Recently, got told that theyโ€™ve made an appointment at the GP after waiting for 2 hours, cus they were full.
It was in 20 min, said if I hurry up or take an uber Iโ€™ll prolly make it in time after I barely got to the hospital. That was Urgent Care tho.

A&E put me in a room with some deathbedders once, scary af. One was just skin and bones.
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Sameish with the deathbedders thing. The doctor couldn't find a room to chat with me in, so he took me in a room with people exactly like you described.
 
(I'd heard of this in America, but) UK now using painkillers to shut up/fob off patients?
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Yeah right. No, U.S. doctors are too scared of malpractice lawsuits to give a patient any opiate painkillers unless they're terminal and it's in an IV. And anyway, diamorphine (read: Heroin) is strictly forbidden as it's in Schedule I and deemed to have no medicinal value, unlike in the U.K. The opposite is true for meth โ€“ it's Schedule II in the U.S. (though rarely prescribed, again, due to malpractice concerns), but "Schedule 1" under the U.K.'s Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. But in the U.S., between the pill farms and the fentanyl epidemic, painkillers have become woefully under-prescribed. U.S. doctors would rather let their patients struggle with pain than risk being sued for malpractice because some motherfucker with litigious relatives is too impulsive to stop abusing a drug.
 
I got given 230mg methadone for 12 years now just switched to kadian 2800mg. Downtown Vancouver.
 
ChemicallyEnhanced said:
I feel like NHS has always been really strict with opioids, but I was in hospital last week and while it was fairly urgent so I was only in the A&E waiting room for an hour, once I got to the assessment suite/waiting area there was a SIX AND A HALF HOUR wait to see a doctor which I have never seen anything so bad before. Most of us were on gurneys in the hallway, like that hospital scene in The Impossible :/
Anyway, literally every single person I saw there was immediately put on 10mg Oramorph every 4 hours. I heard a woman complaining about it, too, saying "you're just giving us all morphine to shut us up and keep us out of too much pain while we wait hours on end to see a doctor who half the time just sends us home and tells us to contact our GP"

I eventually complained (after I had waited 5 hours to see a doctor for suspected Corda Equina, which is a surgical EMERGENCY) and they literally just said "the doctor has said it won't be long and we're gonna increase your morphine dose to 15mg".

Has anyone else seen or experienced anything like this?
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Nah they just straight up kill em we're Im at with the old people. My grandma had to get her lungs drained and they refused to do it and let her die on purpose. Very frequent thing that happens at our local hospital they hate old people.
 
fuckabout89 said:
Nah they just straight up kill em we're Im at with the old people. My grandma had to get her lungs drained and they refused to do it and let her die on purpose. Very frequent thing that happens at our local hospital they hate old people.
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For anyone too young, too yank, or too lazy to look up the pic commented by @LoginNotSecure, the face in the photo belonged to Harold Shipman. He was a G/P medical doctor in the U.K. and one of the most prolific serial killers during the 20th century. So from 1975 to 1998, Harold bodied up some 250 people, possibly more, by intentionally overdosing them on diamorphine, a/k/a: Heroin (a โ„ž drug in the U.K.), and forging medical records to cover his actions.

I'm sorry for your loss @fuckabout89 It's terrible when medical professionals don't hold up to the vows to which they swore an oath, instead turning a blind eye and deaf ear to human suffering. It's infuriating and depressing and there is no right thing out there that can undo this wrong thing that happened to you, your grandmother, and your family. These things are traumatizing / emotionally scarring, I know. We can heal though, scars or not, and experience is a cruel teacher, but you learn. One love.
 
unodelacosa said:
For anyone too young, too yank, or too lazy to look up the pic commented by @LoginNotSecure, the face in the photo belonged to Harold Shipman. He was a G/P medical doctor in the U.K. and one of the most prolific serial killers during the 20th century. So from 1975 to 1998, Harold bodied up some 250 people, possibly more, by intentionally overdosing them on diamorphine, a/k/a: Heroin (a โ„ž drug in the U.K.), and forging medical records to cover his actions.

I'm sorry for your loss @fuckabout89 It's terrible when medical professionals don't hold up to the vows to which they swore an oath, instead turning a blind eye and deaf ear to human suffering. It's infuriating and depressing and there is no right thing out there that can undo this wrong thing that happened to you, your grandmother, and your family. These things are traumatizing / emotionally scarring, I know. We can heal though, scars or not, and experience is a cruel teacher, but you learn. One love.
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He was a wonderful father.
 
fuckabout89 said:
Nah they just straight up kill em we're Im at with the old people. My grandma had to get her lungs drained and they refused to do it and let her die on purpose. Very frequent thing that happens at our local hospital they hate old people.
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Isn't that, like, murder? At the VERY LEAST it's "Gross Criminal Negligence".
Unless she had a DNR?
 
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