Discussion Vaping 7-OH wtf is this

Juicewrldfan

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They literally gave vape for 7-OH now?? This shit is gonna get banned probably because these stupid ass companies. It helped during sub withdrawal and it doesn’t really do a whole lot but keep me out of withdrawal. Look how black that juice is!!

Heres the video:

 
i saw that and really wanted to try it. idk what I think..... let us know.
 
I've heard enough about this stuff to convince me not to even try it. I've struggled enough just to cut back on plain ol' kratom leaf.
I hate the stuff now. If you abuse it the withdrawals are fucking ridiculous. Not even 8mg suboxone covers it for me. Scary withdrawals. I become so insanely anxious and agitated I feel psychosis coming on. Infinitely worse than kratom powder.

Also, I hate that Goblin channel.
 
Hey I wanted a 7 oh vape and I haven't even got around to using it yet. ^Lot of truth to what Jasper says -- on the other hand I will always say due diligence and knowing what you are consuming and how it may/will affect you it totally your liability and choice.

darn it how can it not be strong enough for me to use at a normal dose after a day but still so strong a sub wont cover the w/ds? (That is more a frustrated rhetorical question; never works out. bah humbug)
 
I hate the stuff now. If you abuse it the withdrawals are fucking ridiculous. Not even 8mg suboxone covers it for me. Scary withdrawals. I become so insanely anxious and agitated I feel psychosis coming on. Infinitely worse than kratom powder.

Also, I hate that Goblin channel.
How long did you use the 7oh for?
 
How do you know your pills are either overdosed or underdosed
3rd party lab results is the only way... never ever trust the lab reports the company provides

However, most pills from vape shops are significantly underdosed. If it says 15-20mg, it probably contains closer to 3-10mg. The only brand I'm familiar with that doesn't lie is 7ohmz. I would recommend that brand.

There is a collection of independent lab results here: https://discord.gg/JJg8B3GB

I don't buy pills anymore, way too expensive. I buy 7-OH powder by the gram.
 
I’m really sad to see this shit being offered. It’s going to cause a ban on all kratom, and as much as kratom has been a problem for me in the past, I really don’t want it banned. I’d like to think I can still do a 10 g tea once in a while. This will soon make it all go away… and kratom withdrawals are no joke. My experience has been en par with kicking opiates, but less GI signs, probably because I tapered. I never was able to taper heroin when I stopped. Too hard to adhere to a schedule. Kratom is a good compromise to opiates. Sure you won’t get a nod out of it, but it’s the only legal thing that scratches that itch.
 
Personally not a fan of kratom and prefer the 7-oh (Alot of ppl need pain care and doc's aren't writing; desperate times) to something I'm eating say 10g of at once. Really I could suck it up but for ppl in real pain -- SHORT - VERY SHORT TERM the stuff seems to work. The fact an 8mg sub doesn't stop the w/d of any dose is enough to get my attention.
 
Once again, humans have taken a relatively benign plant and concentrated &/or synthesized its components for monetization, resulting in harmful products that unfairly indict the original plant...
I quit thinking natural plants were benign when, in my 20's, I developed a habit of eating dried opium pods for a couple of years. I became a true zombie, wanted to sleep all the time. In order to wake up for work and school, I had to go to bed as soon as I got home around 5 pm and wake up at 5 am. I finally decided to quit and was so sick that I was totally nonfunctional for a full year. My life came to a complete dead end from that. I eventually recovered, but ended up starting a career at 28 when I could have started at 22. 6 years gone from having to totally start over at community college when I had gotten into a really good university after high school. I've also messed with kratom, of course, because I'm an idiot, never concentrates, just the leaf, and have barely avoided having my entire life blow up in my face again. Maybe it's the kindling effect from my previous habits, but I have a super hard time not escalating my dose to crazy levels and then have to go through wicked withdrawal to get off it.

To me, these plants are anything but benign. I know, they don't to it to everyone, but for a lot of people, they totally short circuit our brain chemistry and take total control of our lives. Even with years of being clean, it is very difficult to avoid the allure of just getting a little during times of stress or hardship and then inevitably getting dragged back into hell.

I'm sure it'd be even worse if I was ever dumb enough to try a 7-OH vape. Even with my experience, I don't think it should be banned. People should be free to make their own choices, and some people can use it responsibly. Ideally, I think decriminalization with rational regulation would be the best way to go.
 
I quit thinking natural plants were benign when, in my 20's, I developed a habit of eating dried opium pods for a couple of years.....
I said "relatively benign" and I stand by that statement while recognizing that obviously there are exceptions.

Opium poppy, tobacco, deadly nightshade, and poison ivy are examples that immediately come to mind.
 
. People should be free to make their own choices, and some people can use it responsibly. Ideally, I think decriminalization with rational regulation would be the best way to go.
I think all drugs should be legal and strictly regulated for potency and purity. Age, driving, and occupational restrictions would apply as they do with alcohol. Recreational drugs should be heavily taxed (like alcohol&tobacco), with funds going directly to treatment for addicts-- which would be a lot more money than is available now.

I'm an alcoholic and I cannot drink safely. This is a personal health issue, not a legal one. We tried Prohibition here in the states and the only beneficiaries were organized crime syndicates. Very few people stopped drinking because of the law (I know that  I wouldn't have), but many were poisoned by unscrupulous bootleggers.

Prohibition solved nothing but created all kinds of problems.
The exact same thing has been going on with illegal drugs for decades now and it is one of society's most tragic and costly mistakes.
 
^ we are about sympatico on that. I think they could loosen up some occupational restrictions. (I had an aunt get a job in Detroit despite failing for pot as "everyone else was on worse") certainly wasn't a glorious job but I don't need my Walmart guy to be 100 percent sober -- in fact those uffer's could all use a joint instead of a Walmart motivational song.

Free up so many resources and make others friends of the public not enemies. Testing centers, possibly the DEA even *Gasps*, they would find a way to stay evil I'm sure but while we are pretending.
 
...the DEA.... they would find a way to stay evil I'm sure but while we are pretending.
Not-So-Fun Fact: One of the reasons the US Govt started coming down harder on weed, coke, & junk after the repeal of Prohibition was simply to give the federal agents who had been busting smugglers, distillers, & bootleggers something to do. Throw in some racism for extra motivation and you have the early precursors to the War On Drugs.
 
sigh unfortunately I knew that. They were paper pushers till prohibition and Hoover too. They mostly went after black athletes that would cross state lines with white women. (what a beautifully fitting origin story) one boxer they went pretty nuts on trying to catch (should remember his name but ya know) it was somethin pretty common. Jack Johnson maybe?
 
I think all drugs should be legal and strictly regulated for potency and purity. Age, driving, and occupational restrictions would apply as they do with alcohol. Recreational drugs should be heavily taxed (like alcohol&tobacco), with funds going directly to treatment for addicts-- which would be a lot more money than is available now.

Yep, totally agree with you there. A lot of people can't handle alcohol, but for a lot of people, well, I'm not sure it improves their lives, but it doesn't cause them to drink uncontrollably. To me it's an issue of not criminalizing victimless crimes, and it's an individual's right to alter or experiment with his own state of consciousness because it can be massively beneficial. I think hallucinogens are also dangerous. I gave myself a pretty bad case of PTSD with good old natural mushrooms. But what hallucinogens can do to the brain, the mind, I think it's really interesting, and people willing to take the risk should be able to do so.

Ideally drugs should be legal and strictly regulated, but usually regulation by the government just means straight-up banning everything. Seems like in countries where they've decriminalized all drugs, they're doing a hell of a lot better than we are in the USA.
 
...A lot of people can't handle alcohol, but for a lot of people, well, I'm not sure it improves their lives, but it doesn't cause them to drink uncontrollably....I think hallucinogens are also dangerous. I gave myself a pretty bad case of PTSD with good old natural mushrooms...
Perfect example of how everyone is different.

Most people can drink alcohol without serious issues but for me it is devastating & deadly.
On the other hand, psychedelics aren't for everyone but they changed my life for the better in a big way.

I do not need politicians, bureaucrats, or police officers telling me which substances I'm allowed to put in my body and which ones I can't.
 
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