Opiod help/ info

[Kyadog]

Hello
I used this site many years ago but really hasn't been necessary until now. I am a long term opiod user. Legally prescribed as I've lumbar and cervical fusions and suffer chronic pain. 5 Major back surgeries. To the point...the one pain Dr I had for years has been flagged and my mail order will no longer fill his scripts. So they abruptly cut me right off. I take 2 60mg Oxycontin and 3 30mgs oxycodone a day. They didn't care about the discontinuation as I argued w them I need tapering. Ended up in ER twice and they gave me 12 pills of each till I could find a new Pain Dr. Finally found one and he agreed w this regiment as I brought all my old empty bottles. The problem is the oxycodone is something I've never had called Roxy bond. It's an abuse deterrent similar to what they did years ago with oxycontin. It's still supposed to be immediate release . However my pharmacist called me and said he couldn't fill it and never heard of it
He eventually spoke to my Dr and then finally I was given the normal ones. I dont wanna injest polymer and other ingredients in this garbage as I do already w oxycontin. Ill admit my choice of ROA is snorting them. Since ultimately I was given the usual ones at my nxt visit im not sure what he'll prescribe. Can they be manipulated if he insists on giving me the Roxy bond.?

 

[vision conquest]

I have never heard of them, however if they are designed similarly to the new oxycontin it is difficult to see how you could snort them.
I don't know how they could be similar to the new oxycontin and yet still be immediate release, hopefully they'll just give you what you're used to.


Is it really worth it, I thought the oral bioavailability of oxycodone was actually better than insufflated bioavailability, I might be wrong there though.
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[Kyadog]

If they are the same as the new oxycontin that I know you would definitely have a hard time snorting I would think.

The way I turn the new oxycontin into immediate release is by putting them into a small container like a shot glass and letting them soak in water for a while then crushing them and then taking it like a shot of whiskey.

However even with this method they don't crush real well, you need patience.

Is it really worth it, I thought the oral bioavailability of oxycodone was actually better than insufflated bioavailability, I might be wrong there though.
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Thanks and u could be right about bioavailability..its just something I kinda like to do w them. I used to get 80mg oxycontin before they coated them but once they did they were/ are impossible to snort or shoot...so now I get the 60mg and of course ya can't break them...so I like the IR 30S...I dont like all the ingredients in the new Roxy bond that make it abuse deterrent and in fact was just reading that in some patients it cause stomach issues. That will hopefully be my basis when I speak to Dr at months end..

 

[vision conquest]

Thanks and u could be right about bioavailability..its just something I kinda like to do w them. I used to get 80mg oxycontin before they coated them but once they did they were/ are impossible to snort or shoot...so now I get the 60mg and of course ya can't break them...so I like the IR 30S...I dont like all the ingredients in the new Roxy bond that make it abuse deterrent and in fact was just reading that in some patients it cause stomach issues. That will hopefully be my basis when I speak to Dr at months end..

I have never heard of these roxy bond, however if they have put naloxone in them as an abuse deterrent, as they have with targin, absolutely do not snort them.
If you just swallow naloxone it's bioavailability is low enough that it basically does nothing, however if you take it using other roa's, such as insufflation it is more bioavailable and it will put you in a world of hurt by throwing you into precipitated withdrawl.
So just did a google and found out it does not contain naloxone so you don't have to worry about that at least.

Does sound like it would be very difficult to snort though so hopefully you can get what you are used to, by presenting the line of reasoning you mentioned to your Dr.


I find it hard to understand how it can still be immediate release, however that is what they are claiming.

https://www.roxybond.com/#:~:text=RoxyBond, formulated with SentryBond Technology,deterrent immediate-release oxycodone hydrochloride.&text=RoxyBond is formulated with physicochemical,and intravenous routes of administration.

The amount of time and effort they put into these abuse deterrent delivery systems, I'm sure this is time that could be put into actually helping people.