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Misc Little known recreational pharmacuticals

JTemperance said:
I think tramadol is a particularly good add-on for buprenoprhine or methadone, and ought to be investigated for supplementing those drugs on a maintenance basis (and as a maintenance drug in its own right, which has been researched and even implemented to an extent in some countries), the same way that clonidine on a maintenance basis has been shown to reduce cravings for buprenorphine-maintained patients.
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You know what the main problem with that combo is ? : -"Tolerance ".
I can guarantee you that the 1st couple of days on ,says , 0.5mgs -4 mgs of Bupre + 50 -100mgs Tramadol ,it will hit you similar to a full agonist ,no doubt ...middle of the week you´ll already find yourself going to 200mgs territory with not so satisfactory results ...weekend arrives ...- up to 400mgs tramadol a day and mixed feelings to go along with it.
After that. risking seizures or back on the same dose of buprenorphine and waiting another fortnight/month for Tram tolerance to lower (which it actually does rather quickly, unlike benzos for instance ).
It´s an alright combo now and then to break the "monotony " of Bupre addiction ,or maintenance or whatever term you wish to use.
P.S. Almost forgot to mention ...I´ve been stuck at 0.5mgs -1mg daily of this rubbish for MONTHS now. Can´t seem to find in me to jump off completely ...it´s tiresome and frustrating ... anyways ... -as I tapered down to this dose ,I used Tramadol at random and I´m almost certain it helped ...
 
KS78 said:
Diphenoxylate hydrochloride, a Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Schedule V (C-V) prescription drug, is a congener of meperidine
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Oh yes, diphenoxylate! It was used before loperamide took its place and it's still used somewhere in latin america. I remember brand mark Protector 2.5 mg, it was good. We used it for wds and worked just wonders for moderate habits, and even for serious cases it worked quite well
The problem with Protector and other brands was that diphenoxylate was next to allways mixed with atropine to "discourage toxic abuse" as the manufacturer said. That atropine was said to produce nasty secondary effects, even delirium, but I remember eating the whole box, 20 pills, during a mdne wd; it stopped well over 75% of wds without myself experimenting negative side effects.
Pills were 2.5 mg diphenoxylate sure, but can't recall the amount of atropine in them
 
RedRum OG said:
SSRI's can have psychedelic side effects

That being said, it's with very rare use and high dosing, and has a sliver of a safety margin. The first time I took zoloft (with lots of weed) I had some very vivid CEVs that I couldn't recreate in intensity until at least my 10th acid trip.

The reason the well known ones are well known is because they're the best. Opiates, benzos, amphetamines, etc

(Disclaimer for the desperate and the naive) I dont recommend you take a bunch of prozac and expect to trip, you could get serotonin syndrome or other serious mental side effects. If you are desperate to trip but cant source legit (illegal) psychedelics, look into LSA. Psilocybin mushrooms are also easier to grow, and more accessible than you may think.
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They Inhibit SERT at 80 ~ 100% you get direct 5HT2A agonism like with LSD/Shrooms. DXM & chlorphenamine are better examples for SRI/SNRI's being psychdelic.
 
Chloral hydrate comes to mind. I had no idea it was still on the market until I got it prescribed once. It kinda felt like expected. On the GABA spectrum but more recreational than benzos for example. My doc said that it still has benefits to sleep quality compared to certain alternatives.
 
Memantine its a good thing, here is cheap and its too easy buy on a pharma
It's not over-the-counter, but I easily get prescriptions for anything and I was surprised by that compound.
 
sHR00m said:
Chloral hydrate comes to mind. I had no idea it was still on the market until I got it prescribed once. It kinda felt like expected. On the GABA spectrum but more recreational than benzos for example. My doc said that it still has benefits to sleep quality compared to certain alternatives.
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Surprisingly chloral is still available by prescription in Canada. Is it prescribed for insomnia? Maybe i could ask my shrink for some chloral lol. Guy is younger then me he would have no idea wtf i was talking about
 
In the US, they have many strong and interesting recreational prescription drugs. I can buy anything sold at a pharmacy here in my country, but I don't have as many options as they do in the US. I'd love to try oxymorphone, temazepam, or dextroamphetamine. Those don't exist here. The strongest are oxycodone and fentanyl, but they're tightly controlled. However, it's easy to get soma, memantine, flunitrazepam, and any benzo. Codeine syrup here is terrible: 100mg in 100ml, nothing more.
 
paranoid android said:
Surprisingly chloral is still available by prescription in Canada. Is it prescribed for insomnia? Maybe i could ask my shrink for some chloral lol. Guy is younger then me he would have no idea wtf i was talking about
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I got it prescribed for insomnia indeed.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
Diconal.....the fucking Holy Grail of pharms, the granddaddy of opiate rushes.

Better than any other opiate based pharm, it's a mixture of an old strong opioid and an anti-histamine and it produces an intense rush when you IV it. It also absolutely ruins your veins, looks like strawberry milkshake when you draw it up and contains loads of fillers that don't come out with a cotton/cigarette filter. You basically collapse the vein first time, maybe you might get two or three goes in each one if you're lucky.
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The first two sentences are such a great sell than it just goes to hell lol. I think most of the US ones are pretty well exposed as kids will take anything with a "May cause drowsiness" sticker. (I was once a kid shutup -- but they have the internet now hopefully they will do better)
 
Nicocastillo7 said:
oxymorphone, temazepam, or dextroamphetamine
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I've lived in the US my whole live, and I've used everything you mentioned except temazepam. Temazepam is a drug that I've never heard of in the US, only on the internet from foreigners. People in the US usually don't take foreign pills if they can help it (the fent pressies really scared a ton of people), and temazepam seems more prevalent in Western Europe. Oxymorphone, taken as brand name Opana, was alright but felt like a weaker and less interesting version of hydromorphone, which I was also taking as brand name Dilaudid. Oxycodone is my personal favorite. Dextroamphetamine is nice, kind of a halfway of pharma Adderall and methamphetamine if that makes sense. If you can access levoamphetamine where you are, it's quite simple to isomerize. It's not something to talk about on BL, but you can poke around other forums and see how people isomerize their speed if you want.
 
I seem to be the only drug user who's ever tripped on diphenhydramine.

I would take like fifteen Benadryl at once with some caffeine to keep me from nodding out, and I'd get a lasting psychedelic high, but I don't recommend it. You feel a bit like shit for a couple days after, or until you're body gets it out of your system.
 
Esperighanto said:
I've lived in the US my whole live, and I've used everything you mentioned except temazepam. Temazepam is a drug that I've never heard of in the US, only on the internet from foreigners. People in the US usually don't take foreign pills if they can help it (the fent pressies really scared a ton of people), and temazepam seems more prevalent in Western Europe. Oxymorphone, taken as brand name Opana, was alright but felt like a weaker and less interesting version of hydromorphone, which I was also taking as brand name Dilaudid. Oxycodone is my personal favorite. Dextroamphetamine is nice, kind of a halfway of pharma Adderall and methamphetamine if that makes sense. If you can access levoamphetamine where you are, it's quite simple to isomerize. It's not something to talk about on BL, but you can poke around other forums and see how people isomerize their speed if you want.
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Surprising to me. Temazepam was not very uncommon throughout the late 90s and early-mid 2000s in the US, vs flunitrazepam which has never been legal/Rx in the US
 
Love how trihexyphenidyl If sold as OTC anti-nausea. It quickly sell out from It being the few ACH blockers that manic euphoric & dysphoria free from It having D2 agonism or selective to M1/M4 antagonism. Now Imagine someone doing It with 400mg DXM + 15mg TPH + some weed?.
 
pcplease said:
Surprising to me. Temazepam was not very uncommon throughout the late 90s and early-mid 2000s in the US, vs flunitrazepam which has never been legal/Rx in the US
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The majority of the array of benzos I've run into are RCs, but I was born in 1999 so I only started using benzodiazepines ~2014. I suspect that I narrowly missed out on Temazepam. I was lucky enough to catch a ton of genuine OCs (20s, 40s, 80s, and once or twice the infamous OxyCoffins), K-cut klonopin and V-cut valium was beautiful, Adderall before they were all meth was nice but this was the era where some were becoming meth pressies, on the street at least. The town I grew up in had no entactogens whatsoever, a good amount of recreational DXM use but not access to ketamine whatsoever, though many of my fellow high schoolers would order obscene amounts of MXE, 2C-B, and etizolam so those made the rounds here and there. LSD was present occasionally but generally rare compared to psilocybin containing mushrooms, which grew locally. Really what we were drowning in was cannabis, heroin, and meth. Nowadays spice is huge there, fent had its time but faded quickly as supplies dried up and none of the locals really took to the 'zenes (isotonitazene, etonitazene, etc.). Even cocaine (as a salt or freebase) is quite rare, though not fully non-existent, just of shit quality.

Though they're likely less amusing than more contemporary sedatives, things like ethchlorvynol, methyprylon, bemegride, phenmetrazine, and to a lesser degree methaqualone and barbiturates would be fascinating to try some day. As far as benzos go, I want to explore the SAR as widely as I can, and hopefully try to innovate on it in the lab some day. They aren't a tough synth, but they sure are a rare one as the precursors can be a pain in the ass to work with. For now, a wide variety of benzodiazepines (predominantly RCs), soma, tizanidine (or clonidine/propranolol), hydroxyzine, promethazine, tapentadol, tramadol/O-DSMT, mitragynine and its 7-HO variant, tianeptine, phenibut, floribut, and meclizine are all sedatives that are easily accessible, and meaningfully either useful as tools, or fun as toys. 7-OH, soma and mitragynine was nicknamed "Maxrelax" by my fiance and I, as through every opioid and combination of drugs I've ever used, nothing really felt better in that relaxing, warm, fuzzy, opioid type of way than that specific combination. Especially if the 7-OH is vaporized, sandwiched between weed.

Sorry for the rant, up late on stims.
 
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