Vaporized 7-OH-Mitragynine Today, All I Can Say Is "Damn"

[Esperighanto]

"Why what are they like a light speed?" --- HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU STILL TALKING TO ME

25I-NBOMe shows remarkably low oral potency compared to other 25X-NBXX's imo. I know somebody who ate ~30mg of mixed 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe and had no ill effects at all from it.

Lol same guy did the same thing with MXE doses -- "That is strange blow"

This is insanely hilarious.

I can safely assure you that I would not have bought it if I did not know what it was at the time (Okay the base did throw me for a curve and that was p2p if recall *idk if that is termed right but you get it*

PNP as in the Amp precursor, if that's what you mean. I appreciate your caution and harm reduction, beyond licking the baggie ofc! Still though, it's highly appreciated, these drugs are truly something mystical imo.

After lysergamines started coming out I probably would never play with that ish again. I will say I found it preferable to the taste dosage and body load of 2c-i original which at 30mg lasted way too long and just felt more "chemmy". Lot easer to tell 10 mg and 30 mg apart than 1 and 3 though and there is ALOT to be said for that!

I've never really understood the weird internalized chemophobia people have against synthetic drugs personally, but I suspect you mean "the feelings came from outside" instead of "the feelings came from inside", yeah? LSD is my favorite drug, but 25C-NBOMe specifically is a top 5. 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe I've used and found neat but not mind-blowing, personally. I also like to trip a LOT and the tolerances from these things just last forever.

 

[kongoman]

Oral administration of this specific "apricot" batch of extract lasts ~6 hours, intranasal 4-5 hours, and I smoked it about three hours ago and it doesn't feel like it's coming down yet.

Edit: Adding some straight leaf to the mix adds at least 2 hours to duration on any of the RoAs, and I've also never experienced withdrawals from 7-OH, oxycodone, hydromorphone, any opioid I've used, even in high amounts or over long periods of time. Adding etizolam also seems to potentiate this, as does hydroxyzine, carisoprodol, and cimetidine.

Hi! I read your post and I Think its the first time I read that someone have never experienced WD from any opioid he used. Can you explain a little bit please?? Youre a kind of chaman or a wizard??? Im not joking. Id love to know this mistery. Thanks in advance!!

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

25I-NBOMe shows remarkably low oral potency compared to other 25X-NBXX's imo. I know somebody who ate ~30mg of mixed 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe and had no ill effects at all from it.

This is insanely hilarious.

PNP as in the Amp precursor, if that's what you mean. I appreciate your caution and harm reduction, beyond licking the baggie ofc! Still though, it's highly appreciated, these drugs are truly something mystical imo.

I've never really understood the weird internalized chemophobia people have against synthetic drugs personally, but I suspect you mean "the feelings came from outside" instead of "the feelings came from inside", yeah? LSD is my favorite drug, but 25C-NBOMe specifically is a top 5. 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe I've used and found neat but not mind-blowing, personally. I also like to trip a LOT and the tolerances from these things just last forever.

Probably a good thing it has low oral potency. I always went sublingual like any blotter and .5-2mgs was what most claimed to enjoy. Of course I went a bit overboard around 7mg usually... Should not even admit this but usually eyeballed the base as I kinda suck at "chasing" on tinfoil. (again prolly a good thing)

Oh man dude was a blast; threw many of scare into me. It was one of these situations where (well he was my father lol) so he gave me infinitely more than I ever could pay back -- could't really say much except "Why on earth did you not talk to me first man, you know whats mine is your's) lol it was his grow op...well I helped some but that is why it was discovered.

Nooo I mean it was peer two peer through a forum that of course no longer exists anymore lgh I think were the letters but I truly have memory problems from those couple years. (such a mystery lol). Feeling came from outside as in it was an independent variable (god I hope I got that right after taking psych at uni lol) -- every time I took 2c-i well the taste was horrid (very small complaint i the drug world) and the body load was too heavy -- like 2ci-nbome and 2c-i have I FEEL are equitoxic feeling by mg. When I licked the bag -- prolly 50mg of 25I-nbome easy; body load seemed on par with about 50mg of 2c-i. (I hope I articulated that alright im a bit tipsy)

Forreal the tolerance does last forever especially after infinite access like that. Ate a quad of shrooms about a week ago and was pretty bummed with the results after a couple months no psych's. Smoked 25i-nbome is up there in my top ten probably, really nice to have a full trip and function an hour later. Does make it a bit more-ish IME though. Srry I alwas forget to address somethin on the first pass -- I only mess with lysergamines because there safety profile is so much higher and my ability to do fairly foolish things pretty high. I really liked the 25i-nbome pretty sure I tried C for some reason, didnt note much of a difference -- but I was USUALLY buying powder, blotters obviously way more pricey. Id rather have a chunk of 25i-nbome to smoke than some lsd right now honestly but acquiring lsd is fairly easy as it never left, I wouldnt risk mailin somethin illegal and most reputable vendors wouldn't wanna send it.. Lysergamines are more about safety. Sorry if this is a sharp left turn but you have any experience with 3c-p? (appears to be what I am seeing)

 

[Neuroborean]

Uh, maybe? I would at least smoke out of a potato or a handpipe if you can, it's significantly less toxic than torching aluminum foil.

Hi,
how's your experience with sinucuichi sun potion? I'm growing a couple plants right now, they are doing fine and it seems a hardy plant, they survived a harsh winter and now it's resprouting.
about the 7oh, honestly I do think it's a bad idea to have that substance in the market, you may be responsible enough to use it but this seems a thing about to explode, and exploding in this context could mean banning kratom products altogether, with the excuse of the "super dangerous/super addictive" qualitites of the extract/isolates, so they will say: "ok, we ban these substance and every "preparation" that has these substances". I do think it's a big mistake and for those who are using kratom for medical reasons it woud be a very bad news.

 

[4DQSAR]

I admit to being surprised that 7-OH mitragynine is now being (legally?) sold as tablets.

When you look at the alkaloid content of the Mitragyna speciosa plant, it seems almost certain to me that someone is in fact buying mitragynine (which is an item of commerce) and performing the oxidation to produce the 7-OH derivative. I think it highly likely that they are in fact making and selling a semi-synthetic compound.

But then I was truly shocked that tianeptine was being sold as 'gas station heroin' for some time.

Both compounds are clearly intended for human consumption but I imagine some other use(s) are listed on the packaging to circumvent local laws.

But I absolutely agree with @Neuroborean in that adults growing plants for their own use should not be subject to legal impediment. I would be willing to bet that if the model were to be trialled by one state, it would quickly become apparent that there would be a reduction in fatalities, reduction in petty crime and that organized criminals would have to find a new way to make money. Because AFAIK organized criminal gangs worldwide caught on to the fact that drugs were the most profitable and least risky way to make money.

That nobody will even trial the idea kind of suggests that a nation with an entire are of law enforcement devoted to the control of drugs has a conflict of interests when it comes to decriminalization of drugs. 7-OH mitragynine and tianeptine WILL be legally controlled but only when it has a sizable user base thus criminals prepared to continue to supply the stuff.

 

[Esperighanto]

how's your experience with sinucuichi sun potion? I'm growing a couple plants right now, they are doing fine and it seems a hardy plant, they survived a harsh winter and now it's resprouting.

Only smoked it, in fact I use sinicuichi as a base for infusion with MDMB-4en-PINACA, 5-MeO-DiPT, 2-FXE/CanKet, 3-HO-PCP, THC, HHC, etc.

Too many reports of pretty damaging run-ins with sun tea, plus I lived in Maine where we we didn't have enough sun exposure anyways to make it right, you need to be near the equator.

 

[Esperighanto]

Hi! I read your post and I Think its the first time I read that someone have never experienced WD from any opioid he used. Can you explain a little bit please?? Youre a kind of chaman or a wizard??? Im not joking. Id love to know this mistery. Thanks in advance!!

Idk man, never experienced MDMA or MDA comedowns either, just a glowing feeling leftover for days. My fiancee's identical, I suspect there's a "socially pathogenic" element to how people shape these comedowns like a placebo/nocebo sort of deal. That's just my hunch, at least.

Smoked 25i-nbome

This concept is wild to me, I'll try it some time but man, until then I can only imagine.

 

[Neuroborean]

Only smoked it, in fact I use sinicuichi as a base for infusion with MDMB-4en-PINACA, 5-MeO-DiPT, 2-FXE/CanKet, 3-HO-PCP, THC, HHC, etc.

Too many reports of pretty damaging run-ins with sun tea, plus I lived in Maine where we we didn't have enough sun exposure anyways to make it right, you need to be near the equator.

I didn't try yet, but it seems that if you do it properly you don't risk those horrible muscle aches with the sun potion... I'll do it in a few months, now one of my plants has gotten this horrible plague: cochineal... so let's see if it grows properly in the summer months. Here I'm in a 9a area but in south western Europe, so probably the potion would work.

 

[Esperighanto]

I didn't try yet, but it seems that if you do it properly you don't risk those horrible muscle aches with the sun potion... I'll do it in a few months, now one of my plants has gotten this horrible plague: cochineal... so let's see if it grows properly in the summer months. Here I'm in a 9a area but in south western Europe, so probably the potion would work.

It'll probably work, I'm going to try it here in Florida too. Damn near every plant grows like a weed here, even Lophophoras for some reason.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Idk man, never experienced MDMA or MDA comedowns either, just a glowing feeling leftover for days. My fiancee's identical, I suspect there's a "socially pathogenic" element to how people shape these comedowns like a placebo/nocebo sort of deal. That's just my hunch, at least.

This concept is wild to me, I'll try it some time but man, until then I can only imagine.

Be easy is my advice there! Now I admit I was almost eyeballing chunks (Very stupid) but at the time all I had was tinfoil and a straw and I never perfected that method -- alot went to waste up in the air. I would be substantially more careful with a banger/bubblepipe. I never did anything stupid or risky -- if I recall you know you got about 30 seconds to find a comfortable seat and should be prepared for the next hour or two

Intensity extreme -- duration short. I do not know what I did to my lungs but at 1-3 mg-ish at a time I think it was minimal. Oh they do have 7-oh at the smokeshop too (just gotta be careful how you ask about it)

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

What is the SOP for someone on sub trying this 7 OH substance --- how many hours shall I abstain before and afterwards. (or I'll google but I trust youse guys more)

 

[Esperighanto]

What is the SOP

Stands for Standard-Of-Progress.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Standard Operating Procedure --- (First definition given if you type in "SOP acronym" into google) Followed by "System On Package" (I have never heard that one though) --- DISTAND THIRD "Sex Over Phone".

You are wrong? What field are we talking about --- haha more importantly why did you not humor me. Google it is lol