Harm Reduction CWE on effervescent pills

[AngelOfDeath415]

Hey hope everyone is doing alright. Soo most search Ive come up with says you can't CWE effervescent codeine/paracetamol pills because the paracetamol is soluble in water in this preparation . This is wrong according to some people Ive talked to because apparently the paracetamol still stays on the surface. I've disolved 2 pills and even at room temp I could see powder floating and going to the bottom after awhile. After all I CWE 4 pills which is abt 2g paracetamol/51mg codeine. Not a lot but this was only to boost my tramadol dose. The CWE worked and there was some mush left in the filter and also bottom of the glass that I took out from freezer. At this point Ive done hundreds of CWE but never with effervescent pills because I always thought u can't and since I have like 4 boxes of this brand, I had to try it. Soo any opinions on effervescent codeine CWE ? You can try lt yourselves it's even noticeable with 2 dissolved pills and u can see the apap floating. Only problem is the sodium in these pills but then again prolly not a problem for short term use (couple days at most). Am I wrong in thinking this despite the fact the filter seems to be full of apap? Kinda useless post and Ik codeine is weak. My tolerance is 60mg oxy, I take tramadol daily too (300mg)and I also use poopy pod tea but tried to limit the former earlier. I usually use the 30mg codeine pills and my dose to atleast feel it is 300-400mg but I won't go that far with those effervescent pills since they only have 12,8 deine per pill and kinda paranoid if that paracetamol is really soluble in this version but my observations and CWE seem to work really well

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

Soo back to my initial question (I'm a bit stoned and it's late here. Can I cwe 3-4 more effervescent pills since Ive already done 4 like 1-2 hours ago? I don't wanna fuck my liver but I think my first CWE really worked. I usually would've felt 2g paracetamol and been nauseous but I'm not+ the filter really had just as much apap in it as the same regular codeine/apap pills.

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

The brand is called solpadeine extra, also has caffeine which is problematic but for me not really since I drink coffee after taking any opiate/opioid soo whatever. Kinda useless info because Ik all effervescent codeine pills work similar by having sodium dissolve the pills but the paracetamol seems to stay undissolved even in this kinda brands. Important question because most posts claim you can't CWE them

 

[sHR00m]

Hey hope everyone is doing alright. Soo most search Ive come up with says you can't CWE effervescent codeine/paracetamol pills because the paracetamol is soluble in water in this preparation . This is wrong according to some people Ive talked to because apparently the paracetamol still stays on the surface. I've disolved 2 pills and even at room temp I could see powder floating and going to the bottom after awhile. After all I CWE 4 pills which is abt 2g paracetamol/51mg codeine. Not a lot but this was only to boost my tramadol dose. The CWE worked and there was some mush left in the filter and also bottom of the glass that I took out from freezer. At this point Ive done hundreds of CWE but never with effervescent pills because I always thought u can't and since I have like 4 boxes of this brand, I had to try it. Soo any opinions on effervescent codeine CWE ? You can try lt yourselves it's even noticeable with 2 dissolved pills and u can see the apap floating. Only problem is the sodium in these pills but then again prolly not a problem for short term use (couple days at most). Am I wrong in thinking this despite the fact the filter seems to be full of apap? Kinda useless post and Ik codeine is weak. My tolerance is 60mg oxy, I take tramadol daily too (300mg)and I also use poopy pod tea but tried to limit the former earlier. I usually use the 30mg codeine pills and my dose to atleast feel it is 300-400mg but I won't go that far with those effervescent pills since they only have 12,8 deine per pill and kinda paranoid if that paracetamol is really soluble in this version but my observations and CWE seem to work really well

Hi there. I find that very intriguing that CWE might work on such codeine pills. No idea if you ruin your liver with this tek but you could weight the pills you extract, do your CWE and when you are finished, you dry the sludge and weight it. Then you subtract the weight of the reclaim from the weight the pills had. If you are getting roughly the weight of the pill -50mg you should be golden. Please report back should you try this.

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

Hi there. I find that very intriguing that CWE might work on such codeine pills. No idea if you ruin your liver with this tek but you could weight the pills you extract, do your CWE and when you are finished, you dry the sludge and weight it. Then you subtract the weight of the reclaim from the weight the pills had. If you are getting roughly the weight of the pill -50mg you should be golden. Please report back should you try this.

I'll try it again tonight with a bigger dose and let you know. I don't expect to extract all the paracetamol but what's 100% sure is that some of it is filtered even in effervescent pills.

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

Hi there. I find that very intriguing that CWE might work on such codeine pills. No idea if you ruin your liver with this tek but you could weight the pills you extract, do your CWE and when you are finished, you dry the sludge and weight it. Then you subtract the weight of the reclaim from the weight the pills had. If you are getting roughly the weight of the pill -50mg you should be golden. Please report back should you try this.

Ok soo Ive done the test using 2 diff brands of effervescent pills (ingredients similar soo it doesn't matter .
I've CWE 6 pills which is equivalent to 145,6mg codeine, 3g paracetamol and Total pills weight is 19g. After CWE I drained the filter and dried by microwaving it (not long just enough soo it's 100% dry). The powder that remained in the filter : 2grams. I suppose I didn't weight it all cause there was some stuck in the filter and bottom of glass I couldn't pick up. Is that ok considering there was 3g paracetamol and I weighted 2g upon extraction? Means I'm taking 1g paracetamol and my CWE still fine despite it being effervescent pills( note: there was some apap stuck in filter/glass that I didn't pick up and also some that evaporated in microwave )

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

Hi there. I find that very intriguing that CWE might work on such codeine pills. No idea if you ruin your liver with this tek but you could weight the pills you extract, do your CWE and when you are finished, you dry the sludge and weight it. Then you subtract the weight of the reclaim from the weight the pills had. If you are getting roughly the weight of the pill -50mg you should be golden. Please report back should you try this.

Are the test results decent enough to drink and do this a couple more days ? I don't wanna fuck my liver but I'm using tramadol and codeine till I get my oxy. Id also like to add the CWE liquid looks clear when u CWE these(but they're very sugary/salty because of the sodium)

 

[AngelOfDeath415]

I'm already over the normal recommended sodium intake (these pills have a lot of sodium) soo I don't recommand them anyways but I hope the CWE atleast worked. I'm more worried abt paracetamol cause Ik how bad it can be for the liver and even small doses make my stomach hurt. With that being said is sodium really bad if you go over 2-3g ?

 

[sHR00m]

Are the test results decent enough to drink and do this a couple more days ? I don't wanna fuck my liver but I'm using tramadol and codeine till I get my oxy. Id also like to add the CWE liquid looks clear when u CWE these(but they're very sugary/salty because of the sodium)

You said that the total amount of the pills was 19g. Did you also log the total amount in the pills you reclaimed minus the codeine you extracted?

 

[lost weekend]

So I've mentioned in the past my cwe made me sick after 40 mins or so .my wife had these pink migraine pills and 1 week ago I simply crushed them ,warm water and a t shirt for filter .the mixture came out slightly pink but was clear for the main .I only used 80 mg with no tolerance and I floated .First time ever .I never did anything different but that time it felt like clean codeine, which I was prescribed legally by my doctor for an upset tummy .should I be worried about the slightly pink colour .all the apap was trapped in t shirt although I never weighd anything its beyond Me ,to scientific. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Docta]

warm water and a t shirt for filter

Okay What. Could you please explain your method in more detail?

Warm water kinda defeats the purpose of cold-water extraction don't you think.

 

[paranoid android]

No you cannot cwe those pills

 

[lost weekend]

As I understand it they weren't evervescent as in you just swallow them they don't fizz in water like asprin, I know the pills your speaking of ,there small just like a normal pill but they did have a waxy outer coating that took some crushing .there were only 8 x8mg codeine ,I used the method quoted on one of the bluelight posts .it definitely worked but I can't say I felt amazing in the morning but that's normal for me

 

[Docta]

As I understand it they weren't evervescent as in you just swallow them they don't fizz in water like asprin,

I assume the moderator is refiring to effervescent pills in general, not directed at you specifically.

The stuff that makes the fizz changes the pH value of water altering its properties as a solvent.

 

[lost weekend]

Okay What. Could you please explain your method in more detail?

Warm water kinda defeats the purpose of cold-water extraction don't you think.

It does ill not be doing it again just had them lying around the house .I just wonder what they had a wax coating and they said they were duel action .I should google it cos I don't have the original box

 

[lost weekend]

Okay What. Could you please explain your method in more detail?

Warm water kinda defeats the purpose of cold-water extraction don't you think.

Yes it does ,but I was to lazy to refrigerate mixture and get to the clear liquid .it did work though .

 

[Docta]

Yes it does ,but I was to lazy to refrigerate mixture and get to the clear liquid .it did work though .

Well thing is it didn't work, CWE is about extracting Paracetamol/Acetaminophen (4-hydroxyacetanilide) not the opiates.

Paracetamol is very slightly soluble in water at room temp. (15 °C) with the concentration decreasing by about 30% at 0 °C.
The water is chilled, so the least amount of Paracetamol makes it past the filter and into the water. Whereas warming the water increases the Paracetamol concentration by about 50% for every 5 °C increase in temp.

Next time don't be so eager, take your time. Let it sit in the freezer until ice starts to show then run it through the filer ice cold for best results.

 

[lost weekend]

Yes it does ,but I was to lazy to refrigerate mixture and get to the clear liquid .it did work though .

Well thing is it didn't work, CWE is about extracting Paracetamol/Acetaminophen (4-hydroxyacetanilide) not the opiates.

Paracetamol is very slightly soluble in water at room temp. (15 °C) with the concentration decreasing by about 30% at 0 °C.
The water is chilled, so the least amount of Paracetamol makes it past the filter and into the water. Whereas warming the water increases the Paracetamol concentration by about 50% for every 5 °C increase in temp.

Next time don't be so eager, take your time. Let it sit in the freezer until ice starts to show then run it through the filer ice cold for best results.

Thanks I will I don't think I'll bother doing it again anyway ,I tend to try it out once a year or so but cab never get the hang of it