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Need Help Just found out I'm pregnant and I need to know if my nightly regimen is safe

FunctionalJnkieGrl

FunctionalJnkieGrl

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Is small doses of melatonin, Kratom, and ZzzQuil (without alcohol) safe during pregnancy? I managed to kick the stronger opiates, but now I can't sleep unless I smoke weed and take that mixture before bed. And when I say small doses, I mean 1 capful of ZzzQuil, 1 12mg melatonin capsule, and 1 500mg Kratom capsule. I've eased up on the weed too. I just don't wanna possibly have to deal with CPS later this year, but I still need to sleep at night.
 
Hey, congrats on the pregnancy.
I don't see where melatonin or zzzquil would be harmful for the baby, kratom on the other hand is a grey area because a lot of it doesn't really get screened by the FDA. If anything kratom related, I wouldn't go with a red vein, I'd just keep it original as possible, with maybe just a green. It's really hard to tell with kratom because you really have no clue what it could be cut with.. something as basic and as organic as you can get. & Keep clear of any extracts.
Yeah i don't blame you having to deal with CPS later to, they can be a nightmare, but then again sometimes they want the best for the kid.
Anyways, take care :)
 
It's nice to hear some good news. I hope you are excited.

Well zzzquil isn't sold in the UK as far as I know but I read it contains diphenhydramine - an antihistamine. It is considered safe during pregnancy.

Melatonin is likewise considered safe and since it is found in foods so the body is well adapted to it's presence.

The huge increase in the popularity of kratom is a fairly recent event so there aren't many papers and only one meta-analysis I was able to find. It's an opioid and cases of neonatal abstinence syndrome have been reported but I hasten to add that it seems that it's based on self-reports on opioid use so hard to know if the mother really did use ONLY kratom. There is concern that kratom MAY be associated with birth defects but to be clear, there isn't sufficient evidence to cite it as a causative agent - at the moment it's tacitly termed an association.

I've know ladies who hid their opioid use from antenatal clinicians and that often did no go well. I don't know where you are based but in the UK at least, pregnancy would see you referred to a specialist who may decide that methadone or buprenorphine are safer options.

I've spent a long time trying to word this appropriately. I don't want to scare you or to tell you what is appropriate in your circumstances. I just wanted you to be aware that where I live, your would receive priority treatment.
 
I currently live in Texas, but in Oklahoma (which is a half hour drive from where I live), weed is legal for approved medicinal use. Maybe there's some sort of loophole so I can receive a legal medical license. Kratom is legal in both states though. I figured as long as I can keep my doses small, then no harm will be done.
 
Congratulations! Babies are cute and a good excuse to take care of yourself and engage with life. I remember your posts back when I joined, I'm glad things are going well for you.
Take what I have to say with a grain of salt, but 1/2 gram of kratom leaf ( not extracts) is a very small dose. I didn't know people ever took so little, maybe I'll try that level myself. You feel useful effects, I gather? But I don't think you'd have WD coming off a small dose like that, so if you have concerns, then quitting shouldn't be too hard compared to the things you have already quit.
Good luck!
 
chippermonk said:
PS. If you ever find useful information about the risks of kratom on pregnancy ( or on health in general), please pass it along to BL. I feel like there is a serious lack of knowledge about the full effects of kratom.
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Indeed I would, but you're right, there's not a lot known about kratom use during pregnancy aside from the fact that high doses can cause withdrawal in newborns.
 
Kratom is legal! I totally forgot becuase here in the UK EVERYTHING is illegal... apart from alcohol.

Well then, have no fear in asking a medical professional. It may still be safer to switch to another opioid if only because there is a lot of data on use during pregnancy, but things don't look bad from where I am sat.
 
Had a miscarriage last night. My hcg levels being too low was my first scare, but I passed the remains last night. It was so painful both physically and emotionally. Even though i got off opiates when the doc confirmed the pregnancy, I blame myself and my nearly 2 decades of addiction. I think I'm going to bury him or her in our garden.
 
FunctionalJnkieGrl said:
Had a miscarriage last night. My hcg levels being too low was my first scare, but I passed the remains last night. It was so painful both physically and emotionally. Even though i got off opiates when the doc confirmed the pregnancy, I blame myself and my nearly 2 decades of addiction. I think I'm going to bury him or her in our garden.
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I’m so truly sorry. I’ve had two miscarriages … and …. there’s just no words to explain the pain. Do whatever you can to take care of yourself in this time of grieving. Don’t blame yourself, this was absolutely not your fault.
Gentlest of hugs 💜
 
FunctionalJnkieGrl said:
Had a miscarriage last night. My hcg levels being too low was my first scare, but I passed the remains last night. It was so painful both physically and emotionally. Even though i got off opiates when the doc confirmed the pregnancy, I blame myself and my nearly 2 decades of addiction. I think I'm going to bury him or her in our garden.
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Aw, that's sad. I don't think you should blame yourself at all. I know plenty of women who have miscarried without having done any drugs at all. It's pretty common. Take good care of yourself ♥️
 
My fiance wants to keep trying as long as I don't relapse. I was scheduled to see an OBGYN tomorrow morning, but now I don't know if there's a point. Also, I don't think I could handle the sight of a bunch of pregnant women in the waiting room right now. I would like to know what may have caused this to happen, but I had a lapse in my recovery immediately after the worst of the miscarriage in the form of someone sharing their crappy blues with me. I don't plan on doing that again as long as we plan on trying again. My head wasn't in a good place. I'm still distraught and bleeding, but I'm going to try to grieve without running back to my bad habits.
 
I can totally understand why you would feel crushed enough to have a relapse. That's very human and I'm glad to hear you are going to try not to keep doing that. Maybe you can find some other women who have gone through miscarriage to talk to? I'm not sure the forum for finding them but they are out there and understanding where you are at.
 
While obviously I cannot truly understand how it feels to lose a child, it is certainly the case that opioids are associated with miscarriages. It's hard to know if there is a direct cause->effect relationship but you need to be well to cope woth the pressures of motherhood.

If you can stop in the face of this setback, it says many good things about you as a person.
 
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