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I have a miserable cold. Will an opiod make me feel better?

if im getting this right... u feel shit cos u havent taken anything stronger than kratom for 4 days.... so ur basicly in opioid wd´s ? i thought u flushed em dirty 30´s or am i mixing u with someone else...... anyway ... id suggest taking longer breaks with taking em pharms and yea kratom is kinda opiate/oid in it self too
 
Littana said:
if im getting this right... u feel shit cos u havent taken anything stronger than kratom for 4 days.... so ur basicly in opioid wd´s ? i thought u flushed em dirty 30´s or am i mixing u with someone else...... anyway ... id suggest taking longer breaks with taking em pharms and yea kratom is kinda opiate/oid in it self too
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No, I had a cold. I only take opioids once a week so have never taken enough consistently to go through withdrawals. I do take about 4 grams of Kratom 4-5 days a week. Been doing so for years.
 
Psynaught said:
How much did you pay for them? Not looking to source, just wondering if I got a fair deal on mine.
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I was actually gonna ask you the same thing lol. Because you said you paid $10 each? Damn! Lol. I pay $4 each for blues. What state do you live in? Because i stay in Arizona. North West Arizona to be exact.
 
ovo1024 said:
I was actually gonna ask you the same thing lol. Because you said you paid $10 each? Damn! Lol. I pay $4 each for blues. What state do you live in? Because i stay in Arizona. North West Arizona to be exact.
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Texas. I've heard of Fent prices being much lower in some areas.
 
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Once a week opioid use is definitely in the territory of getting withdrawals.

Four to five day a week kratom usage is also definite withdrawal territory.
 
helpingout said:
Once a week opioid use is definitely in the territory of getting withdrawals.

Four to five day a week kratom usage is also definite withdrawal territory.
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Once a week is definitely Not In the territory of withdrawals.
Even twice a week use wouldn't cause someone to end up with a physical opioid addiction.
 
ovo1024 said:
Once a week is definitely Not In the territory of withdrawals.
Even twice a week use wouldn't cause someone to end up with a physical opioid addiction.
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That’s a misinformed response.
Once a week use will hundred percent cause physical withdrawals. I don’t know what kind of dope you use but it must be child’s play. .

Twice a week wouldn’t cause physical opioid addiction sure. But physical dependency in the form of withdrawal is absolutely likely.

Source: used oxycodone once a week for two years intranasal and every Friday like clockwork my back would soak with sweat and the anxiety would set in and I absolutely had to have my dose or those symptoms would continue until such time as I did get a dose. Granted it was not as bad as a three times daily heroin habit. But it absolutely was a physical dependency accompanied by withdrawal signaling. But addiction no.

In the interest of harm reduction the only thing I can add besides my weekly use warning is that strict oral dosing allowed me to go without withdrawal for about a decade. But the intranasal use definitely stepped up the dependency to levels I hadn’t experienced since a daily morphine habit.
 
helpingout said:
That’s a misinformed response.
Once a week use will hundred percent cause physical withdrawals. I don’t know what kind of dope you use but it must be child’s play. .

Twice a week wouldn’t cause physical opioid addiction sure. But physical dependency in the form of withdrawal is absolutely likely.

Source: used oxycodone once a week for two years intranasal and every Friday like clockwork my back would soak with sweat and the anxiety would set in and I absolutely had to have my dose or those symptoms would continue until such time as I did get a dose. Granted it was not as bad as a three times daily heroin habit. But it absolutely was a physical dependency accompanied by withdrawal signaling. But addiction no.

In the interest of harm reduction the only thing I can add besides my weekly use warning is that strict oral dosing allowed me to go without withdrawal for about a decade. But the intranasal use definitely stepped up the dependency to levels I hadn’t experienced since a daily morphine habit.
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I Appreciate and always like to err on the side of caution. However no Kratom, no opiods tonight and doing OK just a little wrecked from a brutal hour and 45 minute workout. Honestly, going with ought my morning coffee is much worse. Never got a back sweat in my life, except from my training which is brutal.

I think the key is never having a daily habit. once that happens anything can happen. 7 days is 148 hours. if you are high on opioids for 4-5 of those hours I don't see how you can get physically addicted.

Kind of remind me of doctors who think everyone is an opiod addict.
 
Psynaught said:
I Appreciate and always like to err on the side of caution. However no Kratom, no opiods tonight and doing OK just a little wrecked from a brutal hour and 45 minute workout. Honestly, going with ought my morning coffee is much worse. Never got a back sweat in my life, except from my training which is brutal.

I think the key is never having a daily habit. once that happens anything can happen. 7 days is 148 hours. if you are high on opioids for 4-5 of those hours I don't see how you can get physically addicted.

Kind of remind me of doctors who think everyone is an opiod addict.
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Your logic makes perfect sense to me exempting my experiences.
 
Codeine is the answer for colds and flu.

On top of that get some NAC (n-acetyl cysteine) and you'll be fine in a day
 
helpingout said:
That’s a misinformed response.
Once a week use will hundred percent cause physical withdrawals. I don’t know what kind of dope you use but it must be child’s play. .

Twice a week wouldn’t cause physical opioid addiction sure. But physical dependency in the form of withdrawal is absolutely likely.

Source: used oxycodone once a week for two years intranasal and every Friday like clockwork my back would soak with sweat and the anxiety would set in and I absolutely had to have my dose or those symptoms would continue until such time as I did get a dose. Granted it was not as bad as a three times daily heroin habit. But it absolutely was a physical dependency accompanied by withdrawal signaling. But addiction no.

In the interest of harm reduction the only thing I can add besides my weekly use warning is that strict oral dosing allowed me to go without withdrawal for about a decade. But the intranasal use definitely stepped up the dependency to levels I hadn’t experienced since a daily morphine habit.
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No my information is not wrong, i am correct. And I'll say it again. SOMEONE WHO ONLY USES OPIATES TO GET HIGH ONCE A WEEK WILL NOT DEVELOP A PHYSICAL ADDICTION/OR FEEL WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THE FOLLOWING DAYS AFTER USING.
 
ovo1024 said:
No my information is not wrong, i am correct. And I'll say it again. SOMEONE WHO ONLY USES OPIATES TO GET HIGH ONCE A WEEK WILL NOT DEVELOP A PHYSICAL ADDICTION/OR FEEL WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THE FOLLOWING DAYS AFTER USING.
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Alright egg man
 
ovo1024 said:
No my information is not wrong, i am correct. And I'll say it again. SOMEONE WHO ONLY USES OPIATES TO GET HIGH ONCE A WEEK WILL NOT DEVELOP A PHYSICAL ADDICTION/OR FEEL WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THE FOLLOWING DAYS AFTER USING.
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ovo1024 said:
No my information is not wrong, i am correct. And I'll say it again. SOMEONE WHO ONLY USES OPIATES TO GET HIGH ONCE A WEEK WILL NOT DEVELOP A PHYSICAL ADDICTION/OR FEEL WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS THE FOLLOWING DAYS AFTER USING.
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I’m not a someone. My experience doesn’t matter because you’re correct and you said it in all caps.
 
Psynaught said:
I Appreciate and always like to err on the side of caution. However no Kratom, no opiods tonight and doing OK just a little wrecked from a brutal hour and 45 minute workout. Honestly, going with ought my morning coffee is much worse. Never got a back sweat in my life, except from my training which is brutal.

I think the key is never having a daily habit. once that happens anything can happen. 7 days is 148 hours. if you are high on opioids for 4-5 of those hours I don't see how you can get physically addicted.

Kind of remind me of doctors who think everyone is an opiod addict.
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It will disrupt your pain perception and brain endogenous opioid chemistry And one day u will suddenly wake up and feel like having a cold, sedating, being too cold and too warm, maybe in a state of anxiety. But it will take some tíme to result in this and it also depends on which opioid Is your once a week choice.
 
WellTram said:
It will disrupt your pain perception and brain endogenous opioid chemistry And one day u will suddenly wake up and feel like having a cold, sedating, being too cold and too warm, maybe in a state of anxiety. But it will take some tíme to result in this and it also depends on which opioid Is your once a week choice.
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Late response but yeah. I am going to be even more conservative. I am not going to get high at all on opioids this week. I did not last week although I took 1 Oxy and 1 fent when I was experiencing back pain. I still take 5 grams of Kratom 5 days a week. I am going to try and only use an opiod once every 10 days-2 weeks.

I will tell you this: It turns out that what I had was actually a flue that was going around. If you have the flue (was no vomiting) and opiod makes you feel 100% better.
 
I am not sure what your train of thought is, but if you are taking kratom most days, you are getting, if not high, at least affected, most days this week. You sound like you are "bargaining" and addicted. I hope I am wrong.

Generally opioids suppress at least some measurable immune responses, which might be good or bad thing, depending on things doctor could probably explain better. But there is a chance the illness drags a bit. There is also chance that effect is not remarkable in many reference frames.
 
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