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Opioids OxyContin

Misterx1976

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Right guys got a question (again)
I have perchanced an OxyContin tablet 80mg
Now after reading the threads about it I’m worried about taking it
Firstly I was a heroin addict for 5 years from 1995-2000 been clean 25 years
The first question would be am I safe to take 1/4 of this tablet if I can split it
Will it cause me to chase the high?
Or will I be able to just save the other 3/4 for a rainy day
I am not a Stranger to opioids
I take a couple of tramadol 50mg a night at the weekend for a little Netflix and chill
I have a dehydocodine 30mg in the week if I’m struggling to sleep
So is it recommended to try
I didn’t get on with tap as that seemed to give me RLS as soon as it wore off
I was thinking of taking 1/4 on Saturday with a joint or two
Any help would be appreciated
If there is any chance it’s on a par with heroin it’s going in the bin
I’m not going down that road again

Thank you
 
'Will it cause me to chase the high?'

Probably.

'Or will I be able to just save the other 3/4 for a rainy day'

Probably not.

Oxy is amazing. You will have a very pleasant experience and this will sit inside your head until you do it again. TBH the best thing you can probably do at this point is not go there man.
 
'Will it cause me to chase the high?'

Probably.

'Or will I be able to just save the other 3/4 for a rainy day'

Probably not.

Oxy is amazing. You will have a very pleasant experience and this will sit inside your head until you do it again. TBH the best thing you can probably do at this point is not go there man.
Yeah I’m getting the feeling of flushing it and forgetting about it and sticking with the tramadol
 
OxyContin (oxycodone) was my favorite opioid. I was hooked on it for several years.
Highly euphoric.
Promotion of OxyContin by Perdue Pharma was a huge factor in America's opioid crisis of the past 30 years.
 
OxyContin (oxycodone) was my favorite opioid. I was hooked on it for several years.
Highly euphoric.
Promotion of OxyContin by Perdue Pharma was a huge factor in America's opioid crisis of the past 30 years.
Even if I chop on into 4 and have 20mg will that give the euphoria?
Also is it the same high as heroin with the gouching out and scratching and drooling because it’s that feeling I’m terrified of I don’t want my life ruined again and I also don’t want it to be classed as a relapse I’m proud of staying clean for 25 years
 
In the UK at least, oxycodone is considered to be 1.5x more potent than morphine as an analgesic.

For someone without tolerance, 80mg would be an extremely large dose. I would think 20mg would be reasonably safe as long as it's not combined with any other drugs. But obviously don't use alone, make sure others know what you took and if possible, have naloxone present.

Oxycodone is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor so it poses a special hazard if combined with certain types of antidepressant (tricyclics and MAOIs as far as I know).

So compared to heroin, oxycodone will produce elevated levels of extracellular serotonin which means on top of the increased dopamine levels most opioids produce (the euphoria), there is also raised mood. Not euphoria but happiness is the best way I can explain it.

Given it's analgesic potency, I think oxycodone to be an extremely addictive drug. In it's defence, it's actually more active orally than consumed via a parenteral route. Slower, but more potent. The reason is that when taken orally it undergoes first-pass metabolism by the liver which converts around 10% of the oxycodone into the much more potent (10x) oxymorphone.

I admit to being shocked at just how much oxycodone sells for in the USA. I remember on Opiophile people mentioning first that it had reached $1 per mg and now it appears to have reached $2 per mg in some areas. But the fact it's so highly prized should be an indication of how sought after it is.

OT I would not be at all surprised if the former opium farmers in Mexico swap to growing the (legal) oriental poppy for the thebaine and oripavine it contains. The former is just two steps from oxycodone, the latter two steps for oxymorphone. While fentanyl is potent, I read that it can be had for just $2 so although less potent, oxycodone would still seem attractive. As for the oxymorphone, well that x10 potency only applies to parenteral ROAs but sold as super-strong heroin, it might likewise fetch a high price.
 
If it is Not prescribed and Monitored by a Dr. Sorry it is a RELAPSE

It's especially dangerous if someone lives in a nation in which the only affordable opioid is fentanyl.

So often I've read the same story of people (over)prescribed oxycodone becoming addicted and realizing that there is no way they can afford a pill habit so switch to street opioids.

25 years ago heroin was considered the worst of the worst but compared to fentanyl and now the nitazenes, it looks relatively benign.
 
It's especially dangerous if someone lives in a nation in which the only affordable opioid is fentanyl.

So often I've read the same story of people (over)prescribed oxycodone becoming addicted and realizing that there is no way they can afford a pill habit so switch to street opioids.

25 years ago heroin was considered the worst of the worst but compared to fentanyl and now the nitazenes, it looks relatively benign.
I live in the UK
Thank you for your reply
 
In the UK at least, oxycodone is considered to be 1.5x more potent than morphine as an analgesic.

For someone without tolerance, 80mg would be an extremely large dose. I would think 20mg would be reasonably safe as long as it's not combined with any other drugs. But obviously don't use alone, make sure others know what you took and if possible, have naloxone present.

Oxycodone is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor so it poses a special hazard if combined with certain types of antidepressant (tricyclics and MAOIs as far as I know).

So compared to heroin, oxycodone will produce elevated levels of extracellular serotonin which means on top of the increased dopamine levels most opioids produce (the euphoria), there is also raised mood. Not euphoria but happiness is the best way I can explain it.

Given it's analgesic potency, I think oxycodone to be an extremely addictive drug. In it's defence, it's actually more active orally than consumed via a parenteral route. Slower, but more potent. The reason is that when taken orally it undergoes first-pass metabolism by the liver which converts around 10% of the oxycodone into the much more potent (10x) oxymorphone.

I admit to being shocked at just how much oxycodone sells for in the USA. I remember on Opiophile people mentioning first that it had reached $1 per mg and now it appears to have reached $2 per mg in some areas. But the fact it's so highly prized should be an indication of how sought after it is.

OT I would not be at all surprised if the former opium farmers in Mexico swap to growing the (legal) oriental poppy for the thebaine and oripavine it contains. The former is just two steps from oxycodone, the latter two steps for oxymorphone. While fentanyl is potent, I read that it can be had for just $2 so although less potent, oxycodone would still seem attractive. As for the oxymorphone, well that x10 potency only applies to parenteral ROAs but sold as super-strong heroin, it might likewise fetch a high price.
Thanks very much for this great reply
I think it’s going to have to be a no from me
Which is disappointing 🤣👍
 
Can you say the same about Tramadol then
Thanks for the reply
Not the person you were responding to but I can speak as a former heroin addict (got clean in 2008) and as someone who has worked in addiction programs for the past 12 years.

For one, you mention in your original post that you take a couple of tramadol a few nights a week to chill, and you take DHC some nights if you can't sleep. Those are relatively manageable use patterns, though you would know better than I do how manageable they are in your life. Is it a relapse? Depends on how you define relapsing. It's not a relapse to heroin use for sure, though it isn't abstinence either. It falls somewhere in the murky gray inbetween.

The biggest risks you face are thus:

1) Your oxy would be counterfeit and could contain fentanyl or another illicit opioid like the nitazene compounds. This is obviously more of an issue in the US, though I do understand that fentanyl has begun to show up in the EU/UK as of late. Maybe you got this from a legitimate medical prescription or through a trusted avenue, either way, you'd know better than we would. All that said, if it's illicitly sourced - there's a chance of it being counterfeit which have caused fatal overdoses in people with no/low tolerance.

2) It's legitimate oxycodone AND it is really nice. You're able to take a quarter tab that night. When would you 'save the other 3/4' for? Most likely, you'd feel the urge to try it out again in a week, maybe two. Certainly not soon enough to start getting dope sick, but soon enough to feed the hunger*

3) It's legitimate and 1/4 isn't quite enough, so you take more/all of it. This would be a risk in the sense that it would be breaking your rule/intention for how you'd use it. It may also deepen the desire for another experience since you wouldn't have any/much to save for next time.

There's a concept in addiction called 'kindling'. This is the psychopharmacological process whereby people who have experienced addiction in the past (or overdoses in the past) can become more disposed to reactivating those patterns in the future. People who haven't overdosed are less likely to have a 1st overdose, as people who HAVE overdosed are to having subsequent ones. Once you've overdosed a first time, you're more likely to experience subsequent overdoses than if you hadn't overdosed at all. The same is true for addiction - once you've taught your brain how to develop addiction/dependence, you can easily relearn these patterns and override the safeguards in place that exist for people who have never been addicted previously.

With your current opioid use of 3-4x/week of taking some type of agonist (whether tramadol or dihydrocodiene) you may have unintentionally kindled the psychological patterns related to your past addiction to heroin, which may be why you're posting about having 'happened upon an oxy 80'. Did it fall out of the sky and into your pocket? Most likely, you sourced it, and how intentional that sourcing was is something only you truly know. That said, there's a non-zero chance that your question here is the result of your tramadol and DHC use, which 10 years from now could be how you describe the beginning of a relapse.

But, the future isn't written yet.

If it were me, I wouldn't fuck with an oxy 80 unless I was dying. It's just too tempting to start making exceptions for things that derailed my life once already. The most I'll fuck with from the opioid world is Kratom.

Last year (fall 2023) i got CoVID for the first time. My respiratory symptoms were really bad, painful coughing etc. Years before, while becoming a heroin addict, I'd been prescribed hydrocodone cough syrup (tussionex) and knew it was very effective as a cough suppressant and pain reliever. Given how uncomfortable I was, and how I wasn't doing shit that week anyway, I talked with my PCP about a prescription. She's well aware of my history and I was up front that I would not normally ask for this kind of thing, but that in this case I really felt like it would help. We discussed it, and I also talked with my wife about it, making sure we had a plan in advance of how I'd use it.

I used it responsibly, maybe a slightly larger dose at night to be able to fall asleep, but essentially stayed within the dosage recommendations.

At the end of the week I still had some left and I put it away. I eventually got rid of the last of it because I would often find myself thinking 'a sip would be nice, I can't sleep anyway, go for it!' Even after it was gone, I did notice that I had occasional thoughts about growing poppies to make tea, things that I hadn't normally thought much about over the prior 15 years. These were thoughts that were pretty easy to manage, but they were abnormal for me, and I have no doubt that they were kindled a bit by that sweet sweet pineapple flavored sizzurp.

So, those are my thoughts on your questions, hope you find some of it helpful.
 
Not the person you were responding to but I can speak as a former heroin addict (got clean in 2008) and as someone who has worked in addiction programs for the past 12 years.

For one, you mention in your original post that you take a couple of tramadol a few nights a week to chill, and you take DHC some nights if you can't sleep. Those are relatively manageable use patterns, though you would know better than I do how manageable they are in your life. Is it a relapse? Depends on how you define relapsing. It's not a relapse to heroin use for sure, though it isn't abstinence either. It falls somewhere in the murky gray inbetween.

The biggest risks you face are thus:

1) Your oxy would be counterfeit and could contain fentanyl or another illicit opioid like the nitazene compounds. This is obviously more of an issue in the US, though I do understand that fentanyl has begun to show up in the EU/UK as of late. Maybe you got this from a legitimate medical prescription or through a trusted avenue, either way, you'd know better than we would. All that said, if it's illicitly sourced - there's a chance of it being counterfeit which have caused fatal overdoses in people with no/low tolerance.

2) It's legitimate oxycodone AND it is really nice. You're able to take a quarter tab that night. When would you 'save the other 3/4' for? Most likely, you'd feel the urge to try it out again in a week, maybe two. Certainly not soon enough to start getting dope sick, but soon enough to feed the hunger*

3) It's legitimate and 1/4 isn't quite enough, so you take more/all of it. This would be a risk in the sense that it would be breaking your rule/intention for how you'd use it. It may also deepen the desire for another experience since you wouldn't have any/much to save for next time.

There's a concept in addiction called 'kindling'. This is the psychopharmacological process whereby people who have experienced addiction in the past (or overdoses in the past) can become more disposed to reactivating those patterns in the future. People who haven't overdosed are less likely to have a 1st overdose, as people who HAVE overdosed are to having subsequent ones. Once you've overdosed a first time, you're more likely to experience subsequent overdoses than if you hadn't overdosed at all. The same is true for addiction - once you've taught your brain how to develop addiction/dependence, you can easily relearn these patterns and override the safeguards in place that exist for people who have never been addicted previously.

With your current opioid use of 3-4x/week of taking some type of agonist (whether tramadol or dihydrocodiene) you may have unintentionally kindled the psychological patterns related to your past addiction to heroin, which may be why you're posting about having 'happened upon an oxy 80'. Did it fall out of the sky and into your pocket? Most likely, you sourced it, and how intentional that sourcing was is something only you truly know. That said, there's a non-zero chance that your question here is the result of your tramadol and DHC use, which 10 years from now could be how you describe the beginning of a relapse.

But, the future isn't written yet.

If it were me, I wouldn't fuck with an oxy 80 unless I was dying. It's just too tempting to start making exceptions for things that derailed my life once already. The most I'll fuck with from the opioid world is Kratom.

Last year (fall 2023) i got CoVID for the first time. My respiratory symptoms were really bad, painful coughing etc. Years before, while becoming a heroin addict, I'd been prescribed hydrocodone cough syrup (tussionex) and knew it was very effective as a cough suppressant and pain reliever. Given how uncomfortable I was, and how I wasn't doing shit that week anyway, I talked with my PCP about a prescription. She's well aware of my history and I was up front that I would not normally ask for this kind of thing, but that in this case I really felt like it would help. We discussed it, and I also talked with my wife about it, making sure we had a plan in advance of how I'd use it.

I used it responsibly, maybe a slightly larger dose at night to be able to fall asleep, but essentially stayed within the dosage recommendations.

At the end of the week I still had some left and I put it away. I eventually got rid of the last of it because I would often find myself thinking 'a sip would be nice, I can't sleep anyway, go for it!' Even after it was gone, I did notice that I had occasional thoughts about growing poppies to make tea, things that I hadn't normally thought much about over the prior 15 years. These were thoughts that were pretty easy to manage, but they were abnormal for me, and I have no doubt that they were kindled a bit by that sweet sweet pineapple flavored sizzurp.

So, those are my thoughts on your questions, hope you find some of it helpful.
That is just about the best and brilliant explanation I could have asked for
Everything you say is correct
There isn’t a word of untruth pertaining to my situation that you have kindly taken the time to write out
I can tell you work with people of this nature you sound just like my drug worker I used to have to see every week
I am very grateful for this
It didn’t fall out of the sky
After 3 years of kratom use I decided I’d had enough and gave it up
I have had horrible RLS for the last year so I go online and order some DHC as that stops the legs so I can sleep
I noticed this time I bought my usual 20 of DHC that there was a new option of Oxy 80mg for 20 quid
I thought I haven’t tried that for RLS so I’ll buy one
After buying it I thought best to check this forum for advice
At which point I came to your attention
I wish I hadn’t bought it now tbh

Again thank you I’m very grateful for that terrific reply
 
That is just about the best and brilliant explanation I could have asked for
Everything you say is correct
There isn’t a word of untruth pertaining to my situation that you have kindly taken the time to write out
I can tell you work with people of this nature you sound just like my drug worker I used to have to see every week
I am very grateful for this
It didn’t fall out of the sky
After 3 years of kratom use I decided I’d had enough and gave it up
I have had horrible RLS for the last year so I go online and order some DHC as that stops the legs so I can sleep
I noticed this time I bought my usual 20 of DHC that there was a new option of Oxy 80mg for 20 quid
I thought I haven’t tried that for RLS so I’ll buy one
After buying it I thought best to check this forum for advice
At which point I came to your attention
I wish I hadn’t bought it now tbh

Again thank you I’m very grateful for that terrific reply
Hey, don't be so hard on yourself - many people in this situation would never take the step to seek input from others. They'd just use it without telling anyone or seeking input. You should be proud of the fact that you put yourself out there and asked for input! That's your rational mind's way of pushing back against the irrational mind (which is the part that said, "hey oxy's probably fine just this once.....")

Ultimately, it's your call what you do with it. If you take it, I'd be sure to tell someone you trust what your plan is, and have naloxone on hand in case of an overdose - also remember that in order to use the naloxone, someone would need to be there with you since you can't wake yourself up from an overdose to give it to yourself. There is a thing in the USA called "Never Use Alone Hotline" where you call someone before you use and they can talk with you until you're done using it, and if you were to overdose they can send EMS to check on you. They often suggest things like leaving your door unlocked and the narcan box out so that people know that you took an opioid.

If you feel like it's too risky, I'd suggest getting rid of it rather than holding onto it. It's a small price to pay for peace of mind. You could try selling it, but then you're having to associate with people who use opioids and buy that sort of thing, and that just seems like a bad idea.

Have you ever tried gabapentin for RLS? Some people find it helpful and it can be prescribed by a physician. Might be worth looking into.

Also, if some of this stuff is related to the kratom or DHC use, just know that using oxy is likely to increase your tolerance a bit and make these symptoms a bit more difficult to manage. That tolerance creep and that compensation creep are real.

Glad it was helpful - I wish you the best regardless of what you decide to do <3
 
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