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Substance: 2C-T HCl (2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylthiophenethylamine hydrochloride)
Dosage: 53 mg p.o., dissolved in water
Purity: mp range a bit wide, but bulk of it melts at 240 - 241 °C; material not (yet) recrystallised; ever so slightly off-white
Age: mid 20s
Weight: ~ 60 kg
Intention: explore sub-PiHKAL dose of 2C-T
Set: very excited about doing my first thio! headache and tiredness due to 2-FA abuse in the last two evenings with subsequently short (6 h) sleep phases.
Setting: at home, untidy apartment.
Report
Having no time to recrystallise the material right at this moment, I was too excited not to try it here and then. A melting point was recorded of the ever so slightly off-white sample. Starting from 231 °C, the material sunk slowly. The bulk of it melted at 240 - 241 °C (lit. mp = 240 - 241 °C). As excitement dominated over reason, a 53 mg sample was weighed out to ingest. Not the best practice, but I'm sure it will be fine this time.
Tolerance to psychedelics should not be relevant, 13 days since last trip with a phenethylamine. 4-MMC was taken 7 days before, and in the last two evenings 2-FA was used, leading to tiredness from only 5 - 6 h of sleep, a headache (attempted to treat with 400 mg ibuprofen 1.5 h prior to dosing 2C-T) and feeling a bit down. There was also a bit of scratchiness in the throat as if from a beginning cold (potentially due to screwing up the immune system with the amphetamine), my apartment wasn't tidied up, but this could not deter from the excitement of doing the first experiment with 2C-T. A dosage of 53 mg was chosen, barely short of PiHKAL's given 60 - 100 mg range. Last meal was about 4 h prior.
Initially I had planned to perhaps take a nap before trying out the 2C-T, but as soon as I got home, I compulsively dissolved the material. I've said it before and will say it again - for a true RC connoisseur taking drugs is pathological.
17:08 (T0:00)
53 mg of 2C-T HCl are dissolved surprisingly easily in about 100 mL of water, downed and rinsed with more water. I had secretly hoped for the taste being somewhat disgusting, reflective of the sulfurous nature of the compound, but alas - the taste was entirely unremarkably alkaloidal. After that, a multivitamin tablet is dissolved and used in hopes to dampen a potential cold.
17:13 (T0:05)
A little bit of tingling in the head - impossible that this is the 2C-T already.
17:19 (T0:11)
Just a bit more tingling in my head. It's hard to differentiate this between the strange feelings due to the 2-FA hangover and a potential PEA action. Left foot is feeling a bit numb. A smidge of nausea.
17:26 (T0:18)
Not much going on mentally, but there is definitely a bit of nausea. Still under control though.
17:27(T0:19)
Subtile moodlift, a bit of emotional warmth. At this point, could still be placebo.
17:31 (T0:23)
Bit dreamy, emotional warmth. Maybe a bit of stimulation, but not much. I need music, it feels like DnB is fine for this. I choose "The Journey", a mix which introduced me to the genre on my first ever entactogen roll (BDB). On most psychedelics, I can't listen to DnB as it is a bit too hectic and instead I need psychedelic indie, progressive rock or similar genres - scalines, 2C-B and now 2C-T are an exception.
17:38 (T0:30)
I'm a bit cold, thinking about cuddling into a blanket. [I never got up to get the blanket.]
17:40 (T0:32)
There are ASMR-like effects to the music, just that the tingling is located inside my head. The headache I had can still be perceived, but is now unimportant. If it wasn't for the nausea, this compound could be extremely promising as a pleasurable experience. Hopefully the nausea settles in, otherwise it may be worthwhile to experiment with other ROA. But I'm a bit wary of the thios - see 2C-T-7 deaths due to insufflation.
17:43 (T0:35)
Visually, things may appear a bit warmer, but that may be due to the light of the sunset shining into my windows. Maybe a little bit of drifting of text on my computer.
17:46 (T0:38)
There is a little bit of teeth grinding, but to be honest, there was some before dosing too. I'm feeling in limbo between tired and awake. This feels very nice and gentle.
17:47 (T0:39)
Yawning and stretching, typical PEA alerts - surprised that they appear now. These alerts often occur before mental effects for me.
17:49 (T0:41)
There is a tiny bit of tingling in my hands, moving the fingers is a little bit restricted. Looking at them, the veins are narrow, the skin is pale - my hands look dead. I'm filled with dread. Rationally I know this is a flashback to my terrible 25E-NBOH trip when I called an ambulance and I do not have to worry now. But it feels so bad. This substance felt pleasant - why does this have to happen again and again on trips? Especially as I've thought multiple times I'm over this now: it didn't occur on my latest 2C-D trip for instance. I try to avoid looking at my hand and to distract myself.
17:50 (T0:42)
Is the nausea slowly dissipating? I swear it was. But now thinking about it again, it's back here.
17:55 (T0:47)
I'm pretty sure the slight tingling in my fingers is real and due to vasoconstriction.
17:58 (T0:50)
I feel a bit jumpy/anxious right now. It's probably due to the 2-FA aftermath, but amplified by the 2C-T.
18:01 (T0:53)
Aside from the (psychosomatic?) hand problems - which I am not too worried about - this is quite cozy! But I'm unsure if the substance has much more to offer in terms of content and insight. So far, it's somewhat pleasant, but not rich. This is a low dosage though. I'm chatting with someone about the effects, and when asked about the issue with my hands and if they really feel numb or just cold, I have to reply that I'd rather not dwell on it to avoid thinking about it. Seems like I only wrote that I'm not too worried about it to calm myself down. This is a bit of an issue, but it's likely not the 2C-T's fault.
18:08 (T1:00)
The ASMR effect in the head - tingles to whenever the bass sounds particularly good - repeats itself very reliably. I am looking at myself in the mirror. There is extremely subtle shifting/morphing of my face. I like the person I see. When staring longer, there is just an extremely faint hint of the aztec mask/colours drawn on my face, which is an effect I first had with mescaline and isoproscaline, which then jumped over to 2C-B. Maybe on higher doses this is more pronounced. It is hard to make predictions, but given the relatively low dosages, maybe this compound may be more visual than reports I have read suggest. After all, at a 2C-B dose with similar intensity of mental effects, I don't think I get those kind of slight visual disturbances. I would say I'm at Shulgin +2.5. I'm not fully flooded by the experience, but I don't think I'd be able to do any cognitive task either.
18:10 (T1:02)
The thermometer says 22 °C for my room temperature, which I'm not used to. During much of the summer, the temperature was past the 28 °C point constantly. Both hands and feet are a bit cold, my veins are noticeably thin (when not constricted, my veins bulge). I slowly seem starting to come to terms with looking at my hands. They still look dead, but the negative response and feeling of dread is no longer pronounced.
18:13 (T1:05)
I'm looking at the whiteboard in my room with the complete synthesis route of 2C-T drawn on it. At an earlier point, it had an "you are here" with an arrow pointing to one of the first intermediates. I have added a red arrow and text "now here and high
" to the final product. I feel proud of this accomplishment, it's been a long route. I begin dancing to the music. This is not half bad. It's not my usual dancing style, rather a bit more sweeping and relaxed. The kind of dancing that is perfectly in flow from the inside, but probably looks terrible from outside. I think 2C-T could work nicely in a club at a low dosage, just like 2C-B, if one gets to know it. I do not go clubbing much, maybe this one would be worth a try though. 2C-B is the only (other) psychedelic I would consider for partying.
18:16 (T1:08)
Again, I look at my hand. It looks "dead", just like on the 25E-NBOH. But guess what! There is no longer a negative feeling attached to it. Maybe I've been wrong when I said 2C-T does not have much content to offer. Perhaps this is really important as part of the "detraumatisation" process.
18:18 (T1:10)
I note that there hasn't been any increase in drug strength for a little while now. Probably on the plateau for now. Mild, but fine drug.
18:37 (T1:29)
With eyes closed: I see bubbles in a glass pipette floating up and down to the beat of the music. It has to be said that I always see very weird and often creative things with closed eyes, so I'm not sure at which point regular closed eye images stop and drug CEVs start. This is still well within the limits of my sober closed eyes imagery, but it is prone to adaptions by the music, which is more characteristic of a drug action for me.
18:39 (T1:31)
My veins are extruding again. The hands are no longer looking pale and death.
18:43 (T1:35)
The effects feel like they are slowly on the decline again.
18:46 (T1:38)
The entries in PiHKAL about 2C-T resonate well with me. [I'm not sure how I related to the "teeny step of emotional removal". I think under the influence, I had a bit of a suspicion this may turn out true as well somehow.]
19:09 (T2:01)
Listening to DnB feels good. This is not overly euphoric as an entactogen would be, but still quite good. There is more warmth than with pseudo/wannabe-entactogens like 4-fluoroamphetamine or 4-methylmethcathinone.
19:11 (T2:03)
Expanding on this entactogen comparison once more - this feels like the dreamy quality of the BDB/MDA experience.
19:15 (T2:07)
Now feeling the (potentially) upcoming illness in my throat again. [I did not get ill later.]
19:35 (T2:27)
I am down to say Shulgin +1.5. Ironically, despite this being nice, I am kind of waiting for the effects to end completely, so I can get to writing and "publishing" a report. It seems like there is a bit of the "This is nice - I have to tell the whole world about it!" quality, just like with BDB and mescaline.
19:46 (T2:38)
There is a bit of an urge to redose to extend the effects. I would probably gladly add an entactogen. Outside of 2C-B, no suitable drug is in my vicinity (no 2C-T either), and of course I won't add anything to not "compromise the results".
19:53 (T2:45)
I'm quite some on the way down already. The music appreciation extends though. I have also noted that somewhere within the trip, the headaches from before the trip had disappeared completely.
Conclusion
This is certainly a nice and promising material. In intensity, it was about equal to 12 mg 2C-B HCl p.o.. It is quite short. I hope with an increased dosage, this may get a bit longer. It could be worthwhile to take two doses spaced out over time. Perhaps this would help with the nausea, which was not terrible, but still surprising for the mild cognitive effects. Luckily, the nausea didn't persist. At first, the drug just felt like a nice time, but the positive effect it had on my ongoing troubles with reliving the horrors of my 25E-NBOH trip was indeed remarkable. Maybe this material is indeed capable of overcoming blockades in the psych. I look forward to more experimentation with this material. It could either turn out quite impressive, or the assessment of other people of this material being a bit unremarkable could turn out true for me as well. The latter would be a bit discouraging, as unfortunately it has to compete with some more potent and easier-to-access compounds like 2C-B et al. I use 2C-B as a frequent comparing point as the compound is widely available, I have loads of experience with it and because qualitatively, 2C-T and 2C-B are not too far apart. Especially if the 2C-B trip goes into the more entactogen-ish direction. 2C-T could be very useful if it reliably goes into this dreamy entactogen-like mode.
I feel blessed that I had the chance to try this compound and look forward to tasting more of it. I will certainly write about it, given that there are too few reports about it.
Dosage: 53 mg p.o., dissolved in water
Purity: mp range a bit wide, but bulk of it melts at 240 - 241 °C; material not (yet) recrystallised; ever so slightly off-white
Age: mid 20s
Weight: ~ 60 kg
Intention: explore sub-PiHKAL dose of 2C-T
Set: very excited about doing my first thio! headache and tiredness due to 2-FA abuse in the last two evenings with subsequently short (6 h) sleep phases.
Setting: at home, untidy apartment.
Report
Having no time to recrystallise the material right at this moment, I was too excited not to try it here and then. A melting point was recorded of the ever so slightly off-white sample. Starting from 231 °C, the material sunk slowly. The bulk of it melted at 240 - 241 °C (lit. mp = 240 - 241 °C). As excitement dominated over reason, a 53 mg sample was weighed out to ingest. Not the best practice, but I'm sure it will be fine this time.
Tolerance to psychedelics should not be relevant, 13 days since last trip with a phenethylamine. 4-MMC was taken 7 days before, and in the last two evenings 2-FA was used, leading to tiredness from only 5 - 6 h of sleep, a headache (attempted to treat with 400 mg ibuprofen 1.5 h prior to dosing 2C-T) and feeling a bit down. There was also a bit of scratchiness in the throat as if from a beginning cold (potentially due to screwing up the immune system with the amphetamine), my apartment wasn't tidied up, but this could not deter from the excitement of doing the first experiment with 2C-T. A dosage of 53 mg was chosen, barely short of PiHKAL's given 60 - 100 mg range. Last meal was about 4 h prior.
Initially I had planned to perhaps take a nap before trying out the 2C-T, but as soon as I got home, I compulsively dissolved the material. I've said it before and will say it again - for a true RC connoisseur taking drugs is pathological.
17:08 (T0:00)
53 mg of 2C-T HCl are dissolved surprisingly easily in about 100 mL of water, downed and rinsed with more water. I had secretly hoped for the taste being somewhat disgusting, reflective of the sulfurous nature of the compound, but alas - the taste was entirely unremarkably alkaloidal. After that, a multivitamin tablet is dissolved and used in hopes to dampen a potential cold.
17:13 (T0:05)
A little bit of tingling in the head - impossible that this is the 2C-T already.
17:19 (T0:11)
Just a bit more tingling in my head. It's hard to differentiate this between the strange feelings due to the 2-FA hangover and a potential PEA action. Left foot is feeling a bit numb. A smidge of nausea.
17:26 (T0:18)
Not much going on mentally, but there is definitely a bit of nausea. Still under control though.
17:27(T0:19)
Subtile moodlift, a bit of emotional warmth. At this point, could still be placebo.
17:31 (T0:23)
Bit dreamy, emotional warmth. Maybe a bit of stimulation, but not much. I need music, it feels like DnB is fine for this. I choose "The Journey", a mix which introduced me to the genre on my first ever entactogen roll (BDB). On most psychedelics, I can't listen to DnB as it is a bit too hectic and instead I need psychedelic indie, progressive rock or similar genres - scalines, 2C-B and now 2C-T are an exception.
17:38 (T0:30)
I'm a bit cold, thinking about cuddling into a blanket. [I never got up to get the blanket.]
17:40 (T0:32)
There are ASMR-like effects to the music, just that the tingling is located inside my head. The headache I had can still be perceived, but is now unimportant. If it wasn't for the nausea, this compound could be extremely promising as a pleasurable experience. Hopefully the nausea settles in, otherwise it may be worthwhile to experiment with other ROA. But I'm a bit wary of the thios - see 2C-T-7 deaths due to insufflation.
17:43 (T0:35)
Visually, things may appear a bit warmer, but that may be due to the light of the sunset shining into my windows. Maybe a little bit of drifting of text on my computer.
17:46 (T0:38)
There is a little bit of teeth grinding, but to be honest, there was some before dosing too. I'm feeling in limbo between tired and awake. This feels very nice and gentle.
17:47 (T0:39)
Yawning and stretching, typical PEA alerts - surprised that they appear now. These alerts often occur before mental effects for me.
17:49 (T0:41)
There is a tiny bit of tingling in my hands, moving the fingers is a little bit restricted. Looking at them, the veins are narrow, the skin is pale - my hands look dead. I'm filled with dread. Rationally I know this is a flashback to my terrible 25E-NBOH trip when I called an ambulance and I do not have to worry now. But it feels so bad. This substance felt pleasant - why does this have to happen again and again on trips? Especially as I've thought multiple times I'm over this now: it didn't occur on my latest 2C-D trip for instance. I try to avoid looking at my hand and to distract myself.
17:50 (T0:42)
Is the nausea slowly dissipating? I swear it was. But now thinking about it again, it's back here.
17:55 (T0:47)
I'm pretty sure the slight tingling in my fingers is real and due to vasoconstriction.
17:58 (T0:50)
I feel a bit jumpy/anxious right now. It's probably due to the 2-FA aftermath, but amplified by the 2C-T.
18:01 (T0:53)
Aside from the (psychosomatic?) hand problems - which I am not too worried about - this is quite cozy! But I'm unsure if the substance has much more to offer in terms of content and insight. So far, it's somewhat pleasant, but not rich. This is a low dosage though. I'm chatting with someone about the effects, and when asked about the issue with my hands and if they really feel numb or just cold, I have to reply that I'd rather not dwell on it to avoid thinking about it. Seems like I only wrote that I'm not too worried about it to calm myself down. This is a bit of an issue, but it's likely not the 2C-T's fault.
18:08 (T1:00)
The ASMR effect in the head - tingles to whenever the bass sounds particularly good - repeats itself very reliably. I am looking at myself in the mirror. There is extremely subtle shifting/morphing of my face. I like the person I see. When staring longer, there is just an extremely faint hint of the aztec mask/colours drawn on my face, which is an effect I first had with mescaline and isoproscaline, which then jumped over to 2C-B. Maybe on higher doses this is more pronounced. It is hard to make predictions, but given the relatively low dosages, maybe this compound may be more visual than reports I have read suggest. After all, at a 2C-B dose with similar intensity of mental effects, I don't think I get those kind of slight visual disturbances. I would say I'm at Shulgin +2.5. I'm not fully flooded by the experience, but I don't think I'd be able to do any cognitive task either.
18:10 (T1:02)
The thermometer says 22 °C for my room temperature, which I'm not used to. During much of the summer, the temperature was past the 28 °C point constantly. Both hands and feet are a bit cold, my veins are noticeably thin (when not constricted, my veins bulge). I slowly seem starting to come to terms with looking at my hands. They still look dead, but the negative response and feeling of dread is no longer pronounced.
18:13 (T1:05)
I'm looking at the whiteboard in my room with the complete synthesis route of 2C-T drawn on it. At an earlier point, it had an "you are here" with an arrow pointing to one of the first intermediates. I have added a red arrow and text "now here and high
" to the final product. I feel proud of this accomplishment, it's been a long route. I begin dancing to the music. This is not half bad. It's not my usual dancing style, rather a bit more sweeping and relaxed. The kind of dancing that is perfectly in flow from the inside, but probably looks terrible from outside. I think 2C-T could work nicely in a club at a low dosage, just like 2C-B, if one gets to know it. I do not go clubbing much, maybe this one would be worth a try though. 2C-B is the only (other) psychedelic I would consider for partying.18:16 (T1:08)
Again, I look at my hand. It looks "dead", just like on the 25E-NBOH. But guess what! There is no longer a negative feeling attached to it. Maybe I've been wrong when I said 2C-T does not have much content to offer. Perhaps this is really important as part of the "detraumatisation" process.
18:18 (T1:10)
I note that there hasn't been any increase in drug strength for a little while now. Probably on the plateau for now. Mild, but fine drug.
18:37 (T1:29)
With eyes closed: I see bubbles in a glass pipette floating up and down to the beat of the music. It has to be said that I always see very weird and often creative things with closed eyes, so I'm not sure at which point regular closed eye images stop and drug CEVs start. This is still well within the limits of my sober closed eyes imagery, but it is prone to adaptions by the music, which is more characteristic of a drug action for me.
18:39 (T1:31)
My veins are extruding again. The hands are no longer looking pale and death.
18:43 (T1:35)
The effects feel like they are slowly on the decline again.
18:46 (T1:38)
The entries in PiHKAL about 2C-T resonate well with me. [I'm not sure how I related to the "teeny step of emotional removal". I think under the influence, I had a bit of a suspicion this may turn out true as well somehow.]
19:09 (T2:01)
Listening to DnB feels good. This is not overly euphoric as an entactogen would be, but still quite good. There is more warmth than with pseudo/wannabe-entactogens like 4-fluoroamphetamine or 4-methylmethcathinone.
19:11 (T2:03)
Expanding on this entactogen comparison once more - this feels like the dreamy quality of the BDB/MDA experience.
19:15 (T2:07)
Now feeling the (potentially) upcoming illness in my throat again. [I did not get ill later.]
19:35 (T2:27)
I am down to say Shulgin +1.5. Ironically, despite this being nice, I am kind of waiting for the effects to end completely, so I can get to writing and "publishing" a report. It seems like there is a bit of the "This is nice - I have to tell the whole world about it!" quality, just like with BDB and mescaline.
19:46 (T2:38)
There is a bit of an urge to redose to extend the effects. I would probably gladly add an entactogen. Outside of 2C-B, no suitable drug is in my vicinity (no 2C-T either), and of course I won't add anything to not "compromise the results".
19:53 (T2:45)
I'm quite some on the way down already. The music appreciation extends though. I have also noted that somewhere within the trip, the headaches from before the trip had disappeared completely.
Conclusion
This is certainly a nice and promising material. In intensity, it was about equal to 12 mg 2C-B HCl p.o.. It is quite short. I hope with an increased dosage, this may get a bit longer. It could be worthwhile to take two doses spaced out over time. Perhaps this would help with the nausea, which was not terrible, but still surprising for the mild cognitive effects. Luckily, the nausea didn't persist. At first, the drug just felt like a nice time, but the positive effect it had on my ongoing troubles with reliving the horrors of my 25E-NBOH trip was indeed remarkable. Maybe this material is indeed capable of overcoming blockades in the psych. I look forward to more experimentation with this material. It could either turn out quite impressive, or the assessment of other people of this material being a bit unremarkable could turn out true for me as well. The latter would be a bit discouraging, as unfortunately it has to compete with some more potent and easier-to-access compounds like 2C-B et al. I use 2C-B as a frequent comparing point as the compound is widely available, I have loads of experience with it and because qualitatively, 2C-T and 2C-B are not too far apart. Especially if the 2C-B trip goes into the more entactogen-ish direction. 2C-T could be very useful if it reliably goes into this dreamy entactogen-like mode.
I feel blessed that I had the chance to try this compound and look forward to tasting more of it. I will certainly write about it, given that there are too few reports about it.
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