This is a little bit on the line as far as I'm concerned. While that is my gut reaction, I can't really close it. In my stream of consciousness reasoning before your very eyes, I'm having the revelation that people use dangerous substances for reasons other than to achieve psychological pleasure. I know we have had discussions in the past centering around things like steroids. I think what we found was that the majority of folks involved with steroids would be involved in a different subculture i.e., bodybuilding for which there is a very well-known, gigantic forum.
I feel that if your questions are regarding weight loss, it's a better conversation to be having with your doctor. I have a great deal of respect for my peers here at Bluelight. There are some wicked smart people here. However, if a person could get legitimate information regarding psychoactive drugs from a trained professional, we would be directing them there. Bluelight was born in a vacuum i 1999, a period in which kids were still going to prison for 15 years on a single crack conviction. In short, there was an atmosphere of fear and distrust.
Unlike recreational drug use/addiction, obesity and its associated issues are treated with a much greater level of respect. There are too many obese people to effectively have them be judged by society.
Back to why this is not great information to be gleaned from Bluelight. The majority of our conversations concern objective, acute effects of substances, a much lesser proportion are devoted to chronic effects and even less to recovery (there is a gigantic international recovery community out there, so again, this is not really our forte).
Someone could very easily tell you about Methamphetamine. How they lost so much weight and they've kept it off for 3 years. They can make it seem pretty easy. These people might mean well with their advice. However, time and research has demonstrated that things like stimulants are not appropriate for healthy weight loss. The drug does all the work and when the drug wears off, the person has learned nothing, done nothing and essentially accomplished nothing. They weren't pushing themselves, not eating was the preference. Hence, they typically gain the weight right back.
I know they still prescribe stimulants for serious issues, like, a person's obesity will imminently cause their death and there is no other option but to begin starving them chemically.
Back to my earlier statement, there are apparently injections out there now that people use to get thin. I am not a doctor. I'm an amateur scientist though. What I know of life on the earth is that when we try to fuck to hard with mother nature's intentions, we get bitten. The concept of an injection that makes people thin with no side effects? No effects on genes? No nothing?
I could be totally wrong. I grew up in an era in which my friends and family were raped by. Pharma/FDA/The Government all in cahoots for the purposes of making money for selfish gain. I have a very hard time trusting any medicine that has not been in use for at least 50 years. Even these medicines, as we know (think Benzodiazepines ca. 1970) have the potential to rob people of their souls and the process is initiated in a 15 minute psychiatric appointment,
I know this is oh so easy to say. I currently exercise. I didn't always. It fucking sucks having to get into it. I did it though. I was sick from Opiates and I ran even though it hurt. These days I exercise pretty much every day and I'm healthy. I know, great for me. IU just am saying, if I can do it, you can do it.
Cut out the processed foods, stop drinking Alcohol, exercise every day. Start small. Find the exercise that you truly enjoy. For instance, I fucking hate running. I hate it. Cycling, I love. It's like I'm not even working out. Find your thing and jump into it.