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2024 US Presidential Election

republicans call for oversight and regulation (of e.g. 'big tech')? no problem!

kamala calls for oversight and regulation of, what, podcasters? problem!

i'm not sure what she's even suggesting from that clip alone?

alasdair
 
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lol Rogan is the archetype naive "muh free speeach" guy. fact is that social media corporations are privately owned business which heavily control what kind of speech is getting massively amplified by their profit oriented algorithms. there are also rules for how classical media can operate and they are liable for their actions. why should facebook be exempt from that and be allowed to make money on hate speech and let troll farms operate by political actors?
 
lol Rogan is the archetype naive "muh free speeach" guy.
All comedians are innately proponents of free speech. You can't be a good comedian if you're worried about offending people.

I don't even like Rogan, I just wanted to point that out.

I never liked how much covid bullshit he would invite on his show, but he's not that "archetypical guy" in the sense that I think you mean.
 
lol Rogan is the archetype naive "muh free speeach" guy. fact is that social media corporations are privately owned business which heavily control what kind of speech is getting massively amplified by their profit oriented algorithms. there are also rules for how classical media can operate and they are liable for their actions. why should facebook be exempt from that and be allowed to make money on hate speech and let troll farms operate by political actors?
Lmao.

Right, because the mainstream media is so balanced. Covid? The various wars over of the past decade? Iraq? 9/11 - even the fact checkers admit the BBC clip of WTC 7 is indisputable. Give me a break. I followed all of those events at the time, their reporting was a bloody joke.

As for 'hate speech', that's a nonsense term. Incitement of violence and direct threats are one thing, but calling someone a square headed mongoloid or whatever is not a crime and never should be. Words like 'nigger' highlight the utter stupidity of 'hate speech'.. one group of people are permitted by the nebulous legal definitions to use the word freely, another group will fall under hate speech if they use it apparently in a hateful way.

You can not utilize such a subjective designation over language.. it is political correctness.. which is censorship. It is the state conditioning the public to accept censorship under the guise of protecting someone's feelings, when no one has the right to not be offended. It is grade A bullshit. Period.

And troll farms. What do you think social media is exactly? They are DoD operated intelligence farming operations. Facebook is literally a DoD project under a rebranded name. Again, the whole 'Russian troll farms' is just a parallel example of the state conditioning the public to accept censorship under the guise of protecting someone's feelings.
 
I never liked how much covid bullshit he would invite on his show
Opposed to what, the mainstream media who pushed masks, misleading statistics to promote hysteria, and following a government mandated one-dimensional narrative with no real open discussion or interviewing professional reputable people with dissenting opinions?

I'll take a little horse paste promotion over that. Jesus man, where are you priorities at.
 
Jesus man, where are you priorities at.
Not obsessing over conspiracies like you do, that's where my priorities are. I've got real life problems and shit to do other than watch unqualified people misinterpret statistics and speculate about things they don't understand on facebook and youtube.
 
Not obsessing over conspiracies like you do, that's where my priorities are. I've got real life problems..
Like what, dealing with out the ass monetary inflation.. because the masses allowed our governments to ride the lockdown bullshit and print money like confetti to pay for it? Yeah, you, me, and million of others. Congratulations!

If people had paid just a little more attention to the 'conspiracies' at the time.. if they had actually engaged some critical thinking.. then we wouldn't burdened with this bullshit cost of living crisis right now because people would have realized the phony media hysteria for what it was, and then just gone back to normal life. Sweden, Florida, the majority of the African nations, they didn't give a fuck.. and they are all still here.
 
Like what, dealing with out the ass monetary inflation..
Nah, like going outside and touching grass, trying to improve myself, finding peace of mind in the tangible things that actually matter in my life.

I can't control inflation, so I don't spend my hours watching political commentary and getting stressed out about it. That would be illogical.

People overdose on propaganda, then try to spread the fear and anxiety it induces within them by passing it on, such as these last few posts between us.

None of that shit matters man. I have more soul and purpose fulfilling things to worry about.
 
Nah, like going outside and touching grass, trying to improve myself, finding peace of mind in the tangible things that actually matter in my life.

I can't control inflation, so I don't spend my hours watching political commentary and getting stressed out about it. That would be illogical.
Yeah I get that, I do that stuff as well. I spend time outdoors everyday to get away from all this nonsense. But all the Jordan Peterson 'self improvement' in the world is not going ameliorate the societal level ignorance that comes back around and fucks us, like, monetary inflation caused by people allowing our governments to shut down the economy over mass hysteria.

This is why Generation Z are checking out and spiralling. Unlike many of the millennials (my generation) and Gen X, and virtually all of the boomers, who are happy to play the cognitive dissonance game so long as their slice of the pie is not affected, generation Z have absolutely no assets, no hope of gaining assets, and also reject the propaganda we're talking about here. So they are refusing to even play at all, and I don't blame them. Like the Chinese youth 'laying flat'. Same thing.

You can call it conspiracy if you like, but the fact of the matter is we saw the largest wealth transfer in history during covid. They printed more money than ever before, while many politicians openly flouted the very rules they were enforcing against the public.. because they knew it was bullshit.

The difference between me and you, is that I'm not playing the cognitive dissonance game. People like Rogan or whoever might not have the whole truth, they might get bits and pieces wrong, but where they are right is in questioning the narrative we've been sold. You can call it conspiracy, or propaganda, but to then not acknowledge the fact that the mainstream were actively engaged in their own propaganda (and censorship) is just cognitive dissonance and denial of reality. Sorry, but that is the truth.. you are burying your head in the sand.
 
But all the Jordan Peterson 'self improvement' in the world is not going ameliorate the societal level ignorance that comes back around and fucks us,
I firmly disagree.

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I want to leave society more than try to fix what will always be broken. I got off that treadmill to nowhere.

I can't fix other people, but I can fix myself. God grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Sorry, but that is the truth.. you are burying your head in the sand.

Yes, I am. Best decision I ever made. Improved my health.

There is this panicky desperation in the rest of your post. I think you could use some sand.
 
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I want to leave society more than try to fix what will always be broken. I got off that treadmill to nowhere.
There is this panicky desperation in the rest of your post. I think you could use some sand.
Yeah, and where do you think you're going to escape to? Covid demonstrated quite clearly what the problem is. We live in a global system now, you can't outrun this thing unless you want to live on an island like Vanuatu or an unstable poor African nation that the ruling class don't care about.

If you want security and a normal life, you are living in one the compromised first world nations, and it is absolutely no use pretending this stuff is going to go away. Calling it conspiracy or whatever does not change the facts, and the fact is your life is going to be affected. Under the guise of 'the environment', or 'global health' (i.e. covid), they are enacting massive societal restructuring right now.

I know what you're saying and where you are coming from, but if you understood the nature of this thing you would be a bit panicky too. It doesn't matter if you live off-grid and are larping as self-sufficient or whatever, because when the hammer comes down you are still reliant on interacting with others for tools or whatever, and once they change the nature of the game it's going to disrupt that off-grid ecosystem as well. Everything is interconnected.

There is no frontier to escape to now, is the point. If freedoms get taken now, that's it. You're not self-improving yourself out of tyranny.

EDIT: Just to add, I did give up a lot of interest in the conspiracy stuff between 2012-2020.. I went back to pretending, got a degree, a job, got very fit and healthy. Then covid happened. Like seriously man, people got cornered into taking a jab they didn't want to take because of threat of destitution, people lost businesses they built up over years, for the first time in my life I saw a man trying to commit suicide during lockdown..

I want to live a normal life man. I get it. I know what you're saying. But pretending there isn't a problem when there is, is only going to cause more pain in the long run. Sometimes you have to face up to reality, as shit as it is.
 
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the rogan episode with trump was a doozy.

when even joe rogan thinks your crackpot claims lack sufficient evidence, not the best look :)

alasdair
 
I'd love to see Kamala do a podcast longer than 5 minutes. Then we'd get to see just how vacuous she really is.
 
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