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Opioids No withdrawal after 30 hours?

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tibberous

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So, I used to get really good fent. For like a year I did between a 1/3rd of a g and a 1/2 daily.

The last 2 weeks it's sucked. A few days ago I got 3gs of this brown stuff. Did over a g a day for 2 days, then yesterday I did a half g, and I was out by 6pm.

I woke up this morning at 7am. I fell back asleep, and had this crazy dream. I felt like it lasted a week, maybe longer. I wondered around for like a week, then switched bodies at least a couple times. It was like total time dilation. I hit my vape, ate breakfast, and felt pretty good, but I figured I'd be sick by noon. I called my dude to get a front. He said he'd front me 2gs but he was out. I was broke so I waited, and waited. Eventually I found some money, and bought a half g off someone else. Still haven't got my front.

But by then it was like 8pm, and I wasn't sick, so I got some Arby's and drove home. Now it's 12:10am, and I'm not sick. I don't really know what to do, or why I'm not sick. Is it possible the dope has been so crappy I've just successfully tapered off opiates? Did someone decide to make shitty fake heroin out of methadone and now I won't start withdrawing for another 2 days? Did I get clean in my 2 hour dream that felt like it lasted a week?

I want to go to sleep and see how I feel in the morning. I also want to do a line :/ but honestly, if I can just be "done", if this is it, and I wake up tomorrow feeling okay, maybe I should just be done? I have no idea what to think. Even a few months ago I would get terribly sick. I'd take loperamide and Tylenol but just uncontrollably crave and feel miserable. I literally remember thinking yesterday when I finished that half so soon in the day "I'm going to regret this tomorrow". I don't know a dealer who wakes up before noon. But it has just been a normal day. Literally my only drug free day since the Easter before last. It is so weird, I don't know what to think. I've went through hell trying to get clean, and have both failed and succeeded only to relapse. I've never just stopped and been cool. I hope I can fall asleep ok. I really want to see what happens if I don't use. My curiosity is overpowering my huge urge to get high. I haven't even opened the bag. I don't want to. I want to fall asleep.
 
Continue to hold out,get some more dream time,I use to use fent,us soccer moms were sucking it up,you would never know it.....until,we got all skinny and hollow eyed,I would really like to know how it goes for you,might be a dream come true or a miracle.
 
Maybe you got lucky .. but maybe you didn't. Make sure you're ready for a fent withdrawal (you have bupe right?). I've been a pure fent addict and the WDs can be indescribable. At the least you need rehydration solution and somebody to call an ambulance if you pass out (you will die from dehydration if it's bad enough). A withdrawal that is that bad will leave you with seriously impaired consciousness by about the 6 hour mark (I never went further ... as I didn't want to die). When I say impaired .. I mean .. I once snorted meth instead of bupe and didn't realise till an hour later when the bupe kicked in. That's called impaired consciousness.

I remember back in the day when the fruity RC fents hit the scene that sometimes you'd get a fent that had basically been salted with vinyl (I'm fondly remembering fentyl acetylhyde here). These drugs can sometimes have complex metabolisation chains that mean you get better get sick get better get sick .. get really sick.

That said - at 30 hours your probably ok unless it wasn't fent. There are other super strong opioids with longer half lives that could roll into wd slowly but I'm not aware of any so the chance is likely small. Even carfent which has a half life of 8 hours would be post peak by about 2 days so unless it's something really weird you basically got lucky.

I regard every withdrawal I've ever seen described as being so mild as to be "walk it off standard." Fent WDs are beyond crazy ..

Good luck!
 
kinkyjohn said:
Maybe you got lucky .. but maybe you didn't. Make sure you're ready for a fent withdrawal (you have bupe right?). I've been a pure fent addict and the WDs can be indescribable. At the least you need rehydration solution and somebody to call an ambulance if you pass out (you will die from dehydration if it's bad enough). A withdrawal that is that bad will leave you with seriously impaired consciousness by about the 6 hour mark (I never went further ... as I didn't want to die). When I say impaired .. I mean .. I once snorted meth instead of bupe and didn't realise till an hour later when the bupe kicked in. That's called impaired consciousness.

I remember back in the day when the fruity RC fents hit the scene that sometimes you'd get a fent that had basically been salted with vinyl (I'm fondly remembering fentyl acetylhyde here). These drugs can sometimes have complex metabolisation chains that mean you get better get sick get better get sick .. get really sick.

That said - at 30 hours your probably ok unless it wasn't fent. There are other super strong opioids with longer half lives that could roll into wd slowly but I'm not aware of any so the chance is likely small. Even carfent which has a half life of 8 hours would be post peak by about 2 days so unless it's something really weird you basically got lucky.

I regard every withdrawal I've ever seen described as being so mild as to be "walk it off standard." Fent WDs are beyond crazy ..

Good luck!
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Good Day to you!
Please give me all the horrible details about fent WDs. I am currently a year into using fucking pressed dirty 30's. I feel so low and ashamed, because I used to have a genuine HEROIN addiction!!! Remember those days??!! Real fucking dope. Anyway. its time to let go. So. at my worst with these pills, if they are weak I've done 10-15 a day. THAT is RARE. That happened like 3x in a year. Mostly, I use about 3 to 4 pills a day.

As you know, the strength varies from batch to batch. Right now I have in my possession 15 fairly weak, but keeping me vertical, pills.
Could you suggest a taper? I have Bupe strips that I would rather not use unless I feel I'm at death's door. I have to wait eons to induce. Even when I used straight heroin. It is just how my body works and I know my body very well.

Anyway. I really want to hear about the wickedness of Fent withdrawal. I want to remember your words so that when my time comes, I can sort of prepare myself for the worst and also hopefully come to the conclusion that I am too fucking old now to be doing this shit to myself and want never to experience any of it again.

Thank you!
 
Well looks like for whatever reason you're one lucky bugger.
Keep at it if your body / shit chemicals are apparently handing you the easy way out of dependence.
 
lovemissile66 said:
Good Day to you!
Please give me all the horrible details about fent WDs. I am currently a year into using fucking pressed dirty 30's. I feel so low and ashamed, because I used to have a genuine HEROIN addiction!!! Remember those days??!! Real fucking dope. Anyway. its time to let go. So. at my worst with these pills, if they are weak I've
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So .. 2 points. Firstly the pressed 30s your taking are almost certainly a weak opioid RC with a super strong benzo on top. You can tell this if at first they knocked your ass for 6 every time you took them but you developed total tolerance to the sedation within a week or so (sometimes it can take a bit longer). That is a weapons grade benzo ... not a fent. They are popular to sell as they don't get you the shit that fent does as they basically don't kill people (compared to fent). They do however have more severe mental impairement problems (read the side effects of overdose on barbituates .. the new wave of benzos are stronger than barbituates with more side effects).

Before I describe fent WD .. let me say that anybody taking fent should have snortable buprenorphine. This will abort a fent WD .. and save your life. You can snort the orange ones .. and they must be snorted as your consciousness will be so impaired you won't be able to find your tongue let alone hold something under it. Naloxone should only be administered in an ambulence for fent overdose due to it's short half life and exceptionally weak nature (you'll likely need 6 or 7 full needles to wake up .. then you'll pass out again in 15-30 minutes .. go figure).

Anway - on to the fent WD .. I won't describe it in detail as I don't want to encourage too much my withdrawal (penis) is bigger than your withdrawal (clitoris) or whatever. It's basically just the escalation of pain to levels you probably have never experienced. Pain isn't actually that big of a problem provided it isn't sustained. If it lasts less than a day or two .. it will just be unpleasant and not so traumatic you won't be the same person afterwards.

The first few hours were basically purging .. like bad oysters (you generally start to get severe dehydration at the 5-8 hour mark). There's not too much pain during this .. pain is the next stage. It escalates:

1. Discomfort: You feel sweaty - can't get comfortable and are usually too hot or too cold (or maybe just one dependeing on country). You likely felt this while you were explosively evacuating your bowels .. you just didn't notice.
2. Severe Discomfort: You can never get the right temperature.
3. Disaggregation: Each part of your body is either too hot or too cold. Moving or changing temperature can provide temporary relief (30s -1min) before it restarts. Parts of body are major parts e.g. each arm, each hand, legs, trunk, feet, head.
4. Escalation: The hot and cold becomes burning hot and burning cold. After an hour .. I mean BURNING!
5. Dissociation: You start to lose different parts of the body .. every nerve is going back between burning hot and burning cold. This is the point of overload where your consciousness becomes seriously impaired (you'll skip 15 minutes for example). As the consciousness decreases the pain decreases.
6. The next level: There is sometihng here .. it was beyond dangerous to discover it - don't do it!

You may have heard of things like bone pain .. you get them betwen 4 and 5 (probably varies by person). The pain limit .. where projecting concepts into the world and observing them hurts .. is at 6.

It's unlikely you'll ever experience the above as you need access to a lot of basically neat fent and the skills to titrate and dilute without killing yourself. Unless your a properly trained engineer / scientist like myself attempting to experiment with this will be called "natural selection." Don't do it - especially if you have kids!
 
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