Stimulants amphetamine/speed, UK, need help please, paranoia/psychosis...

[MadMaxRuski87]

Hi, just signed up, love this forum.

I will get straight to the point...

I take amphetamine sulphate once a month and stay up 2-4 days, and lately at the end of the session after a few days I start to get paranoid big time...shadow beings talking in demonic hateful voice around me for hours calling me names, I hear people outside start to talk and plot against me....in the end I always call police(this is the crazy part)on myself because the stuff sounds and looks real, like people wanting to attack me..raid the house, etc

I heard a conversation for like 8 hours about me...imaginery people outside, I was smoking a cig in the bathroom and I stood so still not to make any noise for 30 minutes(my legs went numb) lmao...even the voices said..."how can he sit so quiet for that long, if he moves we murder him"...heard someone say lets get the ladder and climb up, many crazy stories and ONLY when I'm on speed and weed combo.

Doses are not big, it is cheap amphetamine sulphate, but maybe I take too much and overamp, also i do not eat or drink anything but smoke weed after weed...

After sleeping everything goes back to normal like nothing has ever happened.

Any advice please on what should I try...eat or drink maybe not to get delusional and paranoid, maybe try to control the dose I'm taking, I have low tolerance but once I get it it becomes line after line, I snort it.

Thank you, peace!

 

[Electrum1]

Well you gotta eat and stay hydrated, and not stay up for 4 days. The more you keep doing what you're doing now the quicker you'll go into psychosis each time

If you aren't going to quit then maybe get a timelock safe and put the rest in it so you don't compulsively keep doing more. Maybe give the safe to a friend to hold each time before you go back home and get high

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

Forgot to mention that all I do is stay in the room masturbating heavy lmao...for days non stop, maybe dopamine or serotin overload makes me nuts?
Planning to take some this Friday, worried about the paranoia and calling police on myself...
Any vitamins/supplement that can counter it maybe(dont have any valium or stuff like xanax, only valerian and over the counter sleep aid pills is a possibility), will buy electrolyte drinks and try eat something mashed in the blender.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Stop before you wank yourself to death.

In all seriousness I don't think there is a healthy sustainable way to go on 4 day sleepless speed benders and clearly this habit has already had some pretty severe consequences for you.

Won't you consider trying to call it quits a bit sooner, or a lot sooner, rather than trying to keep yourself going with supplements or milkshakes or whatever?

dopamine or serotin overload makes me nuts

Yes you are definitely destroying your brain.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

If it's once a month then you're planning in advance so all you need to do is not have enough speed on hand to keep you up for 4 days. Buy what you need for a 12 hour session or whatever and no more, once it's gone it's gone.

You'll have the hassle of buying in small amounts every month but that's the cost of having no self control, and the way you're doing things now is not sustainable.

Edit: this is tangental and the above absolutely still applies, but seeing as you mentioned it was street speed, that tends to have a lot of caffeine in it so it's worth doing an acetone wash to remove that if you're not already.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Shadow people are completely standard for a 4 day speed bender

As others have said, buy less speed at a time, it costs nothing even when buying in small amounts.

If you can trust yourself with benzos have some on hand to make coming off a bender a bit easier

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

Yeah but 12 hours is impossible, I think I underrate the stuff...few big lines keep me awake for days but I keep having more and more for the sole reason of getting horny....I will try to control it, I once called the police and said that there is a gang of people in the car outside wanting to storm my house...they sent around 4 cars to my house and even the guys said I'm high as a kite and stop wasting our time, I kept pleading with them and even stood on my knees asking for protection, whole block was blocked off and they kept looking for the guys...they had to even knowing that the caller...me, was on some drugs or had mental issues, whole street seen and heard me shouting for help, embarrasing tbh..

I tried to see if I take out my sim card and won't be able to dial emergency....nope, even without the sim you still can, maybe somehow to block the police nunber would be cool but I use the phone for masturbation.

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

Shadow people are completely standard for a 4 day speed bender

As others have said, buy less speed at a time, it costs nothing even when buying in small amounts.

If you can trust yourself with benzos have some on hand to make coming off a bender a bit easier

yeah...hear hear, that is exactly what I need to calm down but cannot get any or will have to ask around but I ain't cause you never know what they are giving you(mostly junkies who have it in my town), I use big bongs of weed to calm down but it does nothing but bring horny levels up.....and possibly intensifying paranoia and delusions.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Yeah but 12 hours is impossible

I say 12 hours you say 4 days maybe we can meet in the middle somewhere.

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

I say 12 hours you say 4 days maybe we can meet in the middle somewhere.

No idea which speed makes you stay up that little...plus the time flies so fast and 12 hours is not enough for jacking off, even few days goes so fast, taking a very small amount is impossible as I need to keep the horny levels up and no such self control, thats the issue.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

No idea which speed makes you stay up that little

I have a dexamphetamine script. I've lived.

no such self control, thats the issue

Yes agreed, that's why you need to have measures in place to protect yourself from yourself. Like planning your dosage and schedule ahead of time and limiting how much product you have on hand so you can't impulsively go off the rails. This is what we call harm reduction.

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

I have a dexamphetamine script. I've lived.

Yes agreed, that's why you need to have measures in place to protect yourself from yourself. Like planning your dosage and schedule ahead of time and limiting how much product you have on hand so you can't impulsively go off the rails. This is what we call harm reduction.

This time...I will do this, opening realm to the unknown is no fun, this "shadow beings" are not in the head, they are real...don't want to piss them off, basically it is again a lesson for me not to self destruct and turn to darkside...easier said than done, thank you Shinji.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

This time...I will do this, opening realm to the unknown is no fun, this "shadow beings" are not in the head, they are real...don't want to piss them off, basically it is again a lesson for me not to self destruct and turn to darkside...easier said than done, thank you Shinji.

My drugs have found intangible ways of showing me that the way I'm using them needs to change too. Stay safe

 

[Psycho_Logic]

I would advise that you undergo true psychological testing. Save up, go private so it doesn't enter your records (if that's a worry) and after 2+ hours of taking different tests and another hour of "interview" you will get solid results about your personality and most important - how susceptible are you to develope psychosis. The results, if it comes out "prone to developing psychotic disorder", could make you affraid enough to take your mind more seriously.

There is a very long tradition both in religious/mystic circles and in military of using sleep deprivation to brake ones mind/ego. While the intention of the "religious/mystic" use of sleep deprivation is to loose your ego-mind is more positive and there are a lot's of safety nets in a sense of both ritual setting and well grounded mystics that will try to take care of you in the process, unlike the interrogative and/or torturous intention of military, this was always considered a more dangerous method of learning via dissolution of well fortified ego-mind defenses. Usually during/after second night without sleep well fortified walls,that ego-mind builds for self defense purposes, come crushing down. There are people that can handle more sleepless nights without succumbing to psychotic break thos is as everything in life a spectrum. Psychological testing could help you to determine where you are on that spectrum.

Another thing to consider is that you are using 2 drugs that are very well linked to development of psychotic disorders. Amphetamines are notorious for it but weed also carries a risk for a development of psychotic disorders including triggering of the schizophrenia. You dont want to go that route so stop while you still can.

***IMPORTANT***:

One measure that could help you is to have some neuroleptic/antipsychotic and start to take them if you're going into the second sleepless night. They will stop amphetamines in their tracks as long as the dose of the agent is high enough.

If you go for quetiapine (Seroquel) take 50mg of indtant release and wait for an hour. If youre still high and/or not sleepy take 50mg more and wait another hour. Don't take more than necessary and do not exceed 300mg of quetiapine as this drugs are not good for your body. But if you're drifting away into stimulant psychosis they are the most effective cause they block dopamine receptors (and serotonin ones) so stimulants will stop working you will crash and sleep + stimulants will not work well when you wake up do to acquired tolerance and accumulated antipsychotics that you took the day before.

If you go with olanzapine (Zyprexa) use the doses of 5mg with 20mg maximum. There are many antipsychotics with unique onset, duration, strength...so please research the topic if you're going to utilise it. ***IMPORTANT***


***IMPORTANT***: I AM NOT A DOCTOR OR SCIENTIST OF ANY KIND AND I AM NOT ADVISING YOU TO DO THAT SO TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE UTILISING THIS METHOD. YOUR OTHER MEDICATIONS AND POSSIBLE DISEASES/DISORDERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR IF USING SUCH POWERFULL SUBSTANCES.

 

[FordRiverFailed]

I haven't posted in years but I've lived a little. Don't stay up for days on anything if you can help it. Lack of sleep is sometimes the biggest demon there is. Lord knows I've done it, I've fought my shadow in a dark room speaking nonsense, but it does get old.

Listen to Shinji, plan to run out. It's your best bet if you don't plan to moderate any other way.

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[Halif2]

all I do is stay in the room masturbating heavy lmao...for days non stop, maybe dopamine or serotin overload makes me nuts?

Do you nut when you're nuts? You're gonna skin your skin flute if you keep playing it like that.

If you're experiencing psychosis and calling the police on yourself, it's time to very seriously consider toning it right down. Things can go bad real quick if you're having psychotic episodes due to sleep deprivation and amphetamine use. There are lots of great suggestions in this thread. I'm just a bit surprised that you don't seem as concerned as you probably should be - you've had these experiences and are aware that you lack self-control, but you're gearing up (pun intended) to have another knob twiddling marathon this Friday?

Please be safe and don't put people around you in awkward/scary situations.

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

Thanks everyone, will try to go easy mode, only getting a small amount and see what's up.

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

Plus I find it amazing that some abuse meth/speed/adderall mixing it with other stuff daily or regulary for years and don't get psychosis or paranoia...and others do it rarely for fun and get a full blown paranoia and delusions....yeah lifes not fair but still. meh

 

[MadMaxRuski87]

If it's once a month then you're planning in advance so all you need to do is not have enough speed on hand to keep you up for 4 days. Buy what you need for a 12 hour session or whatever and no more, once it's gone it's gone.

You'll have the hassle of buying in small amounts every month but that's the cost of having no self control, and the way you're doing things now is not sustainable.

Edit: this is tangental and the above absolutely still applies, but seeing as you mentioned it was street speed, that tends to have a lot of caffeine in it so it's worth doing an acetone wash to remove that if you're not already.

Yeah I know the acetone wash technique but have never tried it....scared to lose the product(sad but ita true), yeah its some polish guys who sling it around my ends and its dirty no idea whats in it, but maybe it is for the good as real speed(base/paste could be nightmare for me), maybe I will try and wash it this time hmm

 

[lardko]

Forgot to mention that all I do is stay in the room masturbating heavy lmao...for days non stop, maybe dopamine or serotin overload makes me nuts?
Planning to take some this Friday, worried about the paranoia and calling police on myself...
Any vitamins/supplement that can counter it maybe(dont have any valium or stuff like xanax, only valerian and over the counter sleep aid pills is a possibility), will buy electrolyte drinks and try eat something mashed in the blender.

How do you manage? Everything becomes so incredibly boring on speed already by day 2 when it depletes all the dopamine from me, including the wanking sessions.