EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

[50shadesofDave]

Apologies for derailing the clonaz chat.

I've found a TENS machine i used on my knees a couple of years ago and forgot about, only a small machine with four pads, it's been bliss to fall asleep to.

Also isn't it strange, in the workplace you always find someone selling co cadamol 30/500, i've seen this at four places now, the country must be hooked.
£50 for 100 or a few for whatever, i only saw and heard due to being close by.

Only tried a few of my rivotrils, bit on the heavy side at the minute but they are power.

As you were.

 

[opiofr3k]

I see more often ppl selling morphine in bottles, 100ml 10mg/5ml, just bought 2 for myself for 30 quid :D u can see leftovers from label from GP on boxes so coming from legit source.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Can any one recommend soma as a quality med for an aching body and mind whilst at work, manufacturing type of work.
I don't want to be nodding but need something better to replace dhc er.

Decent painkiller with a bit of mental energy.

Thanks folks.

 

[Bleaney]

Soma would be a huge no no for work, (imo/ ime) especially manufacturaing. It's effects are highly akin to drunkneness, (only much better feeling, at least it is for me and my brain chemistry) and very unpredictable as to how the doses will affect you. It can be very heavy duty feeling even at 350-500mg.

I would not drive after taking soma, lets put it that way.

Maybe low dose pregabs? 100 mg or so might help?

What kind of pain is it?

Soma is great for skeletal muscle pain and tension, but best left for the evenings (and when you dont have work the next day as it makes it very hard to get up!)

You can get a kind of mental energy / high, but it's not one that's suitable for work. More suitable for blissing out / chilling with tunes at home etc.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Cheers Bleaney, i'll give them a miss given i'll be in a place of work.
My pain has hit the centre of my back, causing spasms and both shoulders are painfully tense.

A small amount of pregab would be ideal but i'm just in the wrong setting for it.
I'll just stick to my DHC and the gels i've bought plus the TENS machine at night.

Appreciate the reply.
Thanks.

 

[Bleaney]

I can have 100-150mg of pregabalin and no one would be any of the wiser AFAIK. I might appear slightly more chilled and content than normal but that would be about it.

Of course YMMV. And I've never read about such a huge variety of responses to pregabs across different individuals, as compared to anything else. Ask a thousand people, and you'd get a thousand completely different reactions, doses, sweet spots etc etc.

 

[lolis my thesis]

I take 450 mg/day
Pretty much last 15 years.
it fucks with my balance for skateboarding so I save it for work
Im a regular chatty Kathy at work.
Probably obvious Im off my gourd, come to think of it
But if that's just my normal state.,.. Im too old to care and no-body has fired me
as such.
My .02 (its all I have after paying for pfizer lyrica for a decade or more at 300-500 per month x 120months).
Thats well over my multiplication skills as I take a lot of lyrica,,,,\

 

[axe battler]

Can any one recommend soma as a quality med for an aching body and mind whilst at work, manufacturing type of work.
I don't want to be nodding but need something better to replace dhc er.

Decent painkiller with a bit of mental energy.

Thanks folks.

As bleaney said, peregablalin will give you a lot of energy and is a good painkiller for nerve pain.
It's also quite cheap. I get the strong 450,mg ones and 1 or 2 of them and I can't help but clean the house or go to the gym.
Starts slow though, as too much can mess up your cognition massively and makes you feel like you're on a boat in a storm., staggering all over the place.
100-150mg is a good start. It's cheaper to buy the boxes of 120 300mg caps and halfing the powder. Put half I'm water and drink then close the capsule. Try it on a day off in case you find it too strong.

Gabapentin or phenobit and also good choices if peregablalin is too much
. they're all physically addictive so be careful please.

 

[lolis my thesis]

My neck feels a couple little snakes are wriggling underneath
Not painful but kinda buzzy or electric feeling;
took my pregabalin and I cant feel it any more.
Never quite put the painkilling props as I take it for the drunk or energy
I don't drink; but my doc said its like alcohol in a pill.
Also it works pretty well as a benzo replacement or probably a superior sleep medication over benzoes
I just seem to like pregabalin during the day and benzos at night

 

[sadasaulna]

Hate to come across all preachy but Dave is already doing a reasonable amount of diaz per day, plus DHC, plus mentioned having clonaz, and now talking about Soma. And then people recommending pregabs. And for god's sake don't start taking Phenibut. The stuff is great, but its for every blue moon, like I'm going to the first concert I've been to in years, and given my social anxiety its going to be a big deal. Considering phenibut for that one night, and that it's ideal use - therapeutic dose for special occasions for social anxiety and that little bit of euphoria works great with a concert. I haven't used it in years and frankly 250mg will probably be just fine.

Given you've stated you're looking towards an eventual taper Dave, I really can't see how the solution can be *more* gabaergic drugs! I appreciate you're in a lot of pain, and question if you should even be working at all in manual work with that kind of debilitating pain, but I guess needs must (I still think you should be eligible for full not fit for work status and PIP personally). I don't want to see you spiralling into heavier use of drugs Dave. Stay safe mate.

 

[sadasaulna]

I don't drink; but my doc said its like alcohol in a pill.

I would like to get my drinking down to 0 units. I hate Alcohol but it controls my life. I don't mind the feeling it gives me, its just so bad for my health. I have reduced my intake quite a bit but not as much as I would like. Any drinkers have an opinion of if pregabs could be a replacement for it? I would not consider doing both together. It would be pregabs or alcohol, never both. Is it hard to taper from? For all its horrors alcohol's physical grip on you isn't that strong. You're over physical addiction in a week, after that its just the psychological desperation to drink.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

yeah, pregabs and alcohol results in bizarre vectors along your route and along your body. Unless you ride a bike, then gyroscopic forces keep you up.

No one knows how sensitive you are to pregab WDs. I seem to be almost immune to it of, say, two week binges. That's longest I've done it.

But if you can take something like half a gram in one weekend, I highly doubt you will have issues. It also causes so rapid tolerance that it discourages you to keep on doing it.

 

[opiofr3k]

Pregabs same like diaz are great for alcohol WD. My friend who's an alcoholic when he needs a break he jumps on preg's and he is not drinking at all at least till he on them

 

[lolis my thesis]

Yes there is tolerance but it remains pretty effective over time especially if if keeps one off the drink
No temptation to go get loose at the bar' I been loose as a goose all day!

 

[sadasaulna]

Thanks guys, that is encouraging. Sharing a little win from last night.

Went for only a quarter diaz last night (roughly 2.5mg) instead of my usual 5mg. I drink Frosty Jacks - when the drink gets towards the end of the bottle I tend to put it in a few mugs, it makes me more comfortable knowing exactly how much I have left. Woke up this morning and found two undrunk mugs! That audiobook must have bored me to sleep!

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Also my previous reduction methods were a bit hit and miss because I was eyeballing it. Basically I pour a certain amount of it down the sink each night. I've ordered a couple of measuring jugs from ebay. One is a small 50 ml jug. I will be doing my reduction by 20ml a night. Too small an amount to miss each evening, but level will be steadily decreasing. I'm currently at just under 2 litre of a 2.5L bottle, and within less than a month will be able to switch to the cheaper 1.5L bottle and save money. They don't sell the stuff in cans anymore (at least near me) and I'm sure they do that to make it hard to reduce. They know their market those Frosty Jackasses and its pissheads like me with no money.

I used to drink a bottle of wine a night which was less units and only ended up on this crap because wine started to get so expensive when the cost of living shot up.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Try switching to the 5% cider from the supermarkets, it works out cheaper and you'll get the alcohol in your system more slowly unless you deliberately drink it quicker than usual

 

[Bleaney]

Hate to come across all preachy but Dave is already doing a reasonable amount of diaz per day, plus DHC, plus mentioned having clonaz, and now talking about Soma. And then people recommending pregabs. And for god's sake don't start taking Phenibut. The stuff is great, but its for every blue moon, like I'm going to the first concert I've been to in years, and given my social anxiety its going to be a big deal. Considering phenibut for that one night, and that it's ideal use - therapeutic dose for special occasions for social anxiety and that little bit of euphoria works great with a concert. I haven't used it in years and frankly 250mg will probably be just fine.

Given you've stated you're looking towards an eventual taper Dave, I really can't see how the solution can be *more* gabaergic drugs! I appreciate you're in a lot of pain, and question if you should even be working at all in manual work with that kind of debilitating pain, but I guess needs must (I still think you should be eligible for full not fit for work status and PIP personally). I don't want to see you spiralling into heavier use of drugs Dave. Stay safe mate.

The man is talking sense!

Unfortunately if you ask a bunch of druggies about any issues, a large number of them will probably recommend just taking more or different drugs . When that is probably very bad advice. Especially as not everyone is going to be aware of any specific individuals circumstances or history. But yeah @sadasaulna is defintely right!

 

[steewith2ees]

The man is talking sense!

Unfortunately if you ask a bunch of druggies about any issues, a large number of them will probably recommend just taking more or different drugs . When that is probably very bad advice. Especially as not everyone is going to be aware of any specific individuals circumstances or history. But yeah @sadasaulna is defintely right!

No drug should be recommended though I fault few for at least suggesting a good one.

I have spent the last 4 hours typing the worst on various BL threads and am about to go for yet next lap until I just accept that as much as I have to say I have nothing of value to communicate, a small issue I keep forgetting as I bash out another 700 words for what in everyone's interest should be perfect for deletion when done.

Its only a half g and only the 3rd time 'I've got some this year but that crystal methamphetamine is like that "base" speed paste I got a couple of times as a teeny bopper thinking hes the big boogiemaster, ultimately becoming both but neither. I am not a great dancer but for a spoiled 90's WASP but half Irish and Roman Catholic my self deprecation and enthusiasm for dancing saw me as the laughing stock up until they only have the dancing you are doing to laugh at, which while crap enuff to be laffed at only amused the people cool enough to get the inside joke, which was that my self delusion extended to most other people who, not even knowing who the select few were who were alone capable of telling the 390 sweaty bouncing hedz in the first club I spent every weekend in. Then, to match the little dick who thought he had the right to dance in a club he regularly attends my superior peers subtly shifted onto the main deck to get the notice and due they were entitled to whenever that sconner who thinks he is a proper raver just because he buys the mixes a properbadman should steal and has spent 2 years going to club / rave nights and events that fakes like him need as opposed to the real deal, too cool to dance....

Just like that, another 20 mins gone. As its proper speed whichever way I cut it i am going to listen to music that while few are obsessed with to my level (even Zop B, the one Bona - fide bad bwoy hardcore jungalist who in terms of Wolftown dancefloors from the 90's knew to get to know as much as anyone, would agree that those spots were dark as the vibe could get without the Raves being considered amazing by even the poutiest Gang Star if he thought no one could see how pilled up he was. Picassos, the amazing dive of a nightclub played upfront, Italian, as well as tech and / or acid house for 6 hours every Saturday and as a legit meat market for any new guest unaware how amazing the music was, people would pull despite the awesome music where, again due to most of the club missing the fact that I was an embarrassment to those who knew.....

And again, off with the shite, which may be just not on to leave as part of the post. Im having 200mcgs of 1-P LSD to turn the Pervotin into a rave gravey. It does not matter what grove you are into - as awesome as dance music sounds, its only when EEd up that you hear that shit for real. Those penny acids, + the nazi grade speed many countries treat as standard whizz are capable of producing the same effect. Being the pussy hole I am it took my entire life and last ever night I went to to try candyflipping. Its the highest I have ever been but despite dancing like the bastard ponce I am people were cool enough to get a genuine laugh when they saw me take the 2 tabs with my last homemade E (empty gel cap with approx. 100 - 130mg of Crystal E.) while making sure that I was politely reminded about my blatant inability to communicate when I would occasonally have a breather and think that I was capable of saying anything.

Fucking speed. To say that the deletion of this post would not be the worst thing depends on whether my new critics think I know what I am listening to and whether I am free to share such or need telling what I was listening to still depends on whether or not it qualifies.

 

[50shadesofDave]

Thank you for your suggestions and taking the time to reply, all hugely appreciated

I am lucky enough to be able to take or leave whatever is in the house drug wise, I am just going to stick to the dhc (can take it or leave it) as I'm in physical pain I'll stick with it, it is prescribed.

I've realised what I want is not available anyway, it's that feeling you get when you take your first ever benzo, that calm relaxed feeling that washes over you (lost that years ago).

Regarding pregabs, I feel very wobbly when I've tried it in the past, I have some about but they're for Emergency only and well stashed with the clonaz, just incase I find myself unable to access Diaz.
Clonaz is a bit too heavy sedation wise for me, and pregabs make me feel drunk, and I'm sure others would notice, so they are not going to be used, I appreciate your worries guys, but I'm ok with them in the house, no urge at all to use them.

I am maintaining 30mg Diaz so I am not actually wanting to add another substance to the mix, I just feel really frustrated when I need pain relief, I've woken today with a really stiff and painfull back, I'm holding back from taking dhc as I don't like the nodding tired effects, I'll save them for work and have a long bath.

Thanks for your time, thoughts and actually making the effort to post, you're good people.
Much respect, Dave.

 

[50shadesofDave]

I would like to get my drinking down to 0 units. I hate Alcohol but it controls my life. I don't mind the feeling it gives me, its just so bad for my health. I have reduced my intake quite a bit but not as much as I would like. Any drinkers have an opinion of if pregabs could be a replacement for it? I would not consider doing both together. It would be pregabs or alcohol, never both. Is it hard to taper from? For all its horrors alcohol's physical grip on you isn't that strong. You're over physical addiction in a week, after that its just the psychological desperation to drink

Hi Sadasaulna, hope you are well.

Being someone who gave up the drinking some years ago now, I can tell you that that psychological fear of needing a beer isn't actually that bad, IF you don't hold yourself to never having another drink ever, don't punish yourself.
I have the attitude that if I want a drink I can have one, I just choose not to.
Although I will have the odd beer when on holiday or if I'm at an Xmas party etc, it works for me.

You've been making really good progress so don't be beating yourself up now with thoughts of the future, deal with it when it arrives.
Well done and keep at it, as said don't go and punish yourself over something that you can't control at this point in your journey, you may find you can take it or leave it when the time arrives, and it will.

Keep up the good work and be proud of the progress, better times ahead.