huskycatfish
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A few years back I used the legal high ethylphenidate in large doses (I think), most days for a few months as an attempt to manage my atypical depression, and while it worked great at first, got out of bed first thing in the morning, increased libido, increased sociability, better concentration etc. those effects faded over time and I found myself becoming hypersensitised to the drug where even 5mg would make me feel jittery and shaky with no benefit. Whilst I did realise that stimulant hypersensitivity was a thing observed in animals my understanding was that it was confined to the locomotor effect.
In any case I came to the conclusion that semi regular use of stimulants was not really worth it nor generally was re-dosing to try to prolong the initial effect, with the resulting increased tiredness/depressive symptomatology I was taking them for in the first place becoming worse, developing irritability and exacerbation of tic disorder, plus the physical extreme appetite suppression made me not look after myself properly.
Recently I've had a lot of work tasks to do at home that are quite repetitive, and have still been suffering idiopathic hypersomnia, one of the things I did find stimulants useful for was getting through tasks that did not require much cognitive thought and for resolving hypersomnia, so based on some other people’s experiences relating to sensitisation I decided to try the amphetamine class.
From the darknet (I'm in the UK), doing as much due to diligence as I could I ordered 1g of what was listed as
“Product: California Ice (Crystal Methamphetamine)
Isomers: Heavily dextro-methamphetamine dominant
Notes: 100% Ephedrine based”
I don't inject/snort/smoke drugs due to additional risks, and not wanting to experience an addictive rush. So I dissolved the crystal in 100ml of water to give a concentration of 10mg/ml to be used for oral or rectal dosing.
Initially I plugged 50mg and felt it come on mildly after about 20mins, but still not powerful enough, an hour later did another 50mg and started to get somewhere I felt more alert and energetic, but not quite as stimulating as I needed.
About 10hrs later when I got home I decided to try a higher dose as I saw the typical range for users without a tolerance was between 80mg and 200mg, uncharacteristically I went for the high end based off 100mg not being “that stimulating” and plugged 200mg.
Christ after 30 minutes I could really feel what I can only describe as a rush! Just looking at my internet history shows that 15-20 mins after plugging it I was heavily browsing porn sites heh. My thoughts were going pretty fast like my attention was flicking from one thing to another and I was a little nervy/jittery which can be quite typical of my usual disposition, in hindsight I should have taken some clonazepam before taking that dose to keep me more clear headed.
There was a body load that I could feel both in my chest and some chills on my skin which I presume was due to peripheral vasoconstriction, plus tingling over various parts of my body and sensitivity in certain places, so I was touching myself up quite a bit as you can imagine. I was too focused on the sexual stuff to really assess any of the cognitive or performance aspects of that dose yet, but I was just dose finding in any case. It’s probably too high a dose to use in any work setting though as it would probably be obvious I was on something, however my blood pressure was normal (I take 10mg amlodipine and ramipril), heart rate moderately elevated though still under 100 and pupils were normal.
After those effects started to wear off after maybe 6 hours I did not re-dose and took a combo of clonazepam, pregabalin and clonidine to help attenuate any agitation or anxiety, so comedown was fairly mild. Think I went to bed about 10 hours after that dose no problem, though I did feel some residual effects the next day. Which is to be expected when there is a 10hr half life I suppose.
Outside of the meds I’ve already mentioned I am also prescribed venlafaxine 375mg ER (though I’ve forgotten to take it for a while) and mirtazapine 45mg. While I have a basic understanding of the potential and theoretical pharmacological interactions between these and stimulants, they are so commonly prescribed I was wondering if anyone here had any advice based on their experiences of taking these medications with methamphetamine?
Also in the past like I said I haven’t looked after myself properly when using stims, and as useful as the appetite suppressing effects are (I’m 5’9” 100kg or 220lbs) it’s not healthy losing weight that way, so I intend to drink those meal replacement drinks when using that have all your vitamins, minerals, electrolytes and macronutrients in them for the day, so nutrients and fluids are sorted. But are there any other recommended agents to take before or after meth? 5-htp, L-dopa etc. in order to prevent or restore any homeostatic imbalances in neurotransmitters or other compounds in the body?
With regards to past tolerance and sensitisation, any thoughts as to how that may have any affect going forward? Seems quite a lot of people get a lot out of lower doses than I tried, but to be fair I am pretty inexperienced with it, so more testing is required to fully assess it’s affects on me.
I’ve heard GHB (my favourite drug) goes well with meth at recreational doses so may try that sometime.
Does anyone else get anorgasmia on stimulants? I tend to get really horny of them but struggle to climax so much that often it’s not worth trying, is there anything out there to remedy or counteract this effect? Interestingly if anything, on the SSRI’s I tend to finish faster.
In any case I came to the conclusion that semi regular use of stimulants was not really worth it nor generally was re-dosing to try to prolong the initial effect, with the resulting increased tiredness/depressive symptomatology I was taking them for in the first place becoming worse, developing irritability and exacerbation of tic disorder, plus the physical extreme appetite suppression made me not look after myself properly.
Recently I've had a lot of work tasks to do at home that are quite repetitive, and have still been suffering idiopathic hypersomnia, one of the things I did find stimulants useful for was getting through tasks that did not require much cognitive thought and for resolving hypersomnia, so based on some other people’s experiences relating to sensitisation I decided to try the amphetamine class.
From the darknet (I'm in the UK), doing as much due to diligence as I could I ordered 1g of what was listed as
“Product: California Ice (Crystal Methamphetamine)
Isomers: Heavily dextro-methamphetamine dominant
Notes: 100% Ephedrine based”
I don't inject/snort/smoke drugs due to additional risks, and not wanting to experience an addictive rush. So I dissolved the crystal in 100ml of water to give a concentration of 10mg/ml to be used for oral or rectal dosing.
Initially I plugged 50mg and felt it come on mildly after about 20mins, but still not powerful enough, an hour later did another 50mg and started to get somewhere I felt more alert and energetic, but not quite as stimulating as I needed.
About 10hrs later when I got home I decided to try a higher dose as I saw the typical range for users without a tolerance was between 80mg and 200mg, uncharacteristically I went for the high end based off 100mg not being “that stimulating” and plugged 200mg.
Christ after 30 minutes I could really feel what I can only describe as a rush! Just looking at my internet history shows that 15-20 mins after plugging it I was heavily browsing porn sites heh. My thoughts were going pretty fast like my attention was flicking from one thing to another and I was a little nervy/jittery which can be quite typical of my usual disposition, in hindsight I should have taken some clonazepam before taking that dose to keep me more clear headed.
There was a body load that I could feel both in my chest and some chills on my skin which I presume was due to peripheral vasoconstriction, plus tingling over various parts of my body and sensitivity in certain places, so I was touching myself up quite a bit as you can imagine. I was too focused on the sexual stuff to really assess any of the cognitive or performance aspects of that dose yet, but I was just dose finding in any case. It’s probably too high a dose to use in any work setting though as it would probably be obvious I was on something, however my blood pressure was normal (I take 10mg amlodipine and ramipril), heart rate moderately elevated though still under 100 and pupils were normal.
After those effects started to wear off after maybe 6 hours I did not re-dose and took a combo of clonazepam, pregabalin and clonidine to help attenuate any agitation or anxiety, so comedown was fairly mild. Think I went to bed about 10 hours after that dose no problem, though I did feel some residual effects the next day. Which is to be expected when there is a 10hr half life I suppose.
Outside of the meds I’ve already mentioned I am also prescribed venlafaxine 375mg ER (though I’ve forgotten to take it for a while) and mirtazapine 45mg. While I have a basic understanding of the potential and theoretical pharmacological interactions between these and stimulants, they are so commonly prescribed I was wondering if anyone here had any advice based on their experiences of taking these medications with methamphetamine?
Also in the past like I said I haven’t looked after myself properly when using stims, and as useful as the appetite suppressing effects are (I’m 5’9” 100kg or 220lbs) it’s not healthy losing weight that way, so I intend to drink those meal replacement drinks when using that have all your vitamins, minerals, electrolytes and macronutrients in them for the day, so nutrients and fluids are sorted. But are there any other recommended agents to take before or after meth? 5-htp, L-dopa etc. in order to prevent or restore any homeostatic imbalances in neurotransmitters or other compounds in the body?
With regards to past tolerance and sensitisation, any thoughts as to how that may have any affect going forward? Seems quite a lot of people get a lot out of lower doses than I tried, but to be fair I am pretty inexperienced with it, so more testing is required to fully assess it’s affects on me.
I’ve heard GHB (my favourite drug) goes well with meth at recreational doses so may try that sometime.
Does anyone else get anorgasmia on stimulants? I tend to get really horny of them but struggle to climax so much that often it’s not worth trying, is there anything out there to remedy or counteract this effect? Interestingly if anything, on the SSRI’s I tend to finish faster.
