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Why is there so much advertised MDMA in ecstasy pills?

The end product is the same, regardless of the production process and precursors used. MDMA = MDMA. It is all the same until you can come up with a good scientific explanation why it wouldn't be the same. Explain it to me in pharmacological or chemistry terms.
 
The end product is the same, regardless of the production process and precursors used. MDMA = MDMA.
No, but (S) 3,4-MDMA Hydrochloride = (S) 3,4-MDMA Hydrochloride
It is all the same until you can come up with a good scientific explanation why it wouldn't be the same. Explain it to me in pharmacological or chemistry terms.
It is all explained in this thread.
 
There is excellent MDMA available in NA and its fairly priced if you get it in decent amounts. Its all about who you know, and id never get it off the street. But the private vendors have amazing product right now, and there is options. Some of it is european MDMA the dutch champagne. Other batches are from here, a friend gave me this Amethyst crystal recently that was absolutely stunning, wish i had more.

Im getting a new batch of Crystal.

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im sure its gonna be wonderful, it has great reviews. Only couple grams at first to try it obviously. But that is what it looks like, dosing 150mgs w/ 100mg booster few hrs later.
That is some lovely looking MDMA there, excellent stuff nice score! Have some good times on that stuff believe it was the first crystal I had actually. Iv had crystal clear Dutch crystals that was ridiculous. 180mg and I was on my ass, very disorienting shit. Loved it tho.

What iv been getting lately. Cant wait for Friday!! Flood dose and nitrous tank. 🫠
 
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According to who are the doses that are needed of crystal higher? Maybe it has more to do with tolerance? In the Netherlands we don't see that at all. People report similar experiences with pills and crystal. We have an extensive drug checking service here, so easy and reliable to compare.
According to me taking it, and some of my friends too. I have two separate sources of pure MD, and it is definitely a different supply but the same effects. Lack lustre product and big dosages. I've quit taking it now because it's just not the same anymore. It's not tolerance, it's poor product. One of my sources gets Dutch gear as well as UK produced and it's always the same lack lustre product.
There is something wrong with ALL of the MDMA I've come across in recent years.
 
The end product is the same, regardless of the production process and precursors used. MDMA = MDMA. It is all the same until you can come up with a good scientific explanation why it wouldn't be the same. Explain it to me in pharmacological or chemistry terms.
Back in the early 90's MDMA was made from saffrole using the Leukart method and ALL of the impurities were psychoactive, so this added to the excitement of the buzz. Now we have PMK Glycidate as a precursor and a totally different catalyst using reductive amination, and in fact some of the impurities from this are highly neuro toxic which is why people often feel sick on it or particularly afterwards on the comedown. Theoretically it shouldn't matter which method is used, but when criminality is at play it definitely does. Cutting corners and not properly purifying it is the reason along with the powers that be meddling and outlawing precursors, forcing method changes and inevitable errors in production because of this. It doesn't make any business sense to dose pills higher so we are left with two possibilities; either the pills are dosed high because they know there is something wrong with the product OR they are wildly exaggerating the doses as a marketing ploy. IMHO it is something wrong with the product.
 
Back in the early 90's MDMA was made from saffrole using the Leukart method and ALL of the impurities were psychoactive, so this added to the excitement of the buzz. Now we have PMK Glycidate as a precursor and a totally different catalyst using reductive amination, and in fact some of the impurities from this are highly neuro toxic which is why people often feel sick on it or particularly afterwards on the comedown. Theoretically it shouldn't matter which method is used, but when criminality is at play it definitely does. Cutting corners and not properly purifying it is the reason along with the powers that be meddling and outlawing precursors, forcing method changes and inevitable errors in production because of this. It doesn't make any business sense to dose pills higher so we are left with two possibilities; either the pills are dosed high because they know there is something wrong with the product OR they are wildly exaggerating the doses as a marketing ploy. IMHO it is something wrong with the product.
Mdma isn't easy to make is it?
 
I’m still not sure why no one has taken advantage of the endless wild sassafras trees growing in the southern Midwest. I lived near where the Mississippi and Ohio rivers join for several years, and the smell of sassafras would fill the air every spring and summer. Walking through certain towns was like having your face stuck in a bag of fire MDA.
 
I used to take E away back in the late 80’s / 90’s and I was NEVER floored etc only needed 1 pill for the whole night then go to someone house for a chat n smoke. I miss those days 🙁
Anyway it was either love doves or brown biscuits I used to get, then the double deckers started coming Mitsubishi, Mercedes etc. I think the single pills were 75mg and the double deckers were 150mg. I hated the double pills because they seemed to be cut, some of my friends were proud to need two or three for a night, they didn’t see themselves walking around like zombies
The E nowadays is not real E it’s synthetic because they can’t get the Sassafras oil from the tree roots



bull-fuckin-shit

i just got some pressies that are TITS and could easily match up with mitsubishis from back in late 90s early 2000s - i was highly impressed and a bit shocked at how good these were....hang on i'll post a pic

and my cousin in NYC is also finding excellent pressies right now - he sent me a pic too - hold up...
 
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those are the squid games ^


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and those are Punishers from the nyc area ^



if they keep this up, we're gonna have to fire up the Pill Reports again
 
i was actually planning on taking half of the squid game to start out - but i ended up taking the whole thing - i took it at 830am and at 6pm, i was like wow im still kinda high

it was perfect if you ask me


my cousin takes half of those Punishers at a time
 
bull-fuckin-shit

i just got some pressies that are TITS and could easily match up with mitsubishis from back in late 90s early 2000s - i was highly impressed and a bit shocked at how good these were....hang on i'll post a pic

and my cousin in NYC is also finding excellent pressies right now - he sent me a pic too - hold up...
Mate, unless you have taken pre '95 ecstacy, you've likely never had a real E before. Those new pills do not contain the same kind of MDMA as in those pills of old. I've seen the originals right the way up to present day and it is not the same drug. Yes, it tests as MDMA and they are no doubt strong, but they do not get you high in the same way. The new MDMA has a subtle but significant pharmacological profile of effects which adds up to a huge disappointment in my opinion. That ultimate grin from ear to ear, and unstoppable feeling of love emanating from your inner self just isn't there anymore. It has something to do with both the method and precursor being different. Nobody has proven it as yet but that day is nearing as we speak. In chemistry terms it shouldn't matter which route is taken yet somehow it does. The only real way to prove it is to have two batches of both new method and old method MDMA to measure against each other.
Strength does not necessarily mean good, which is what the previous person was trying to say.
 
Mate, unless you have taken pre '95 ecstacy, you've likely never had a real E before. Those new pills do not contain the same kind of MDMA as in those pills of old. I've seen the originals right the way up to present day and it is not the same drug. Yes, it tests as MDMA and they are no doubt strong, but they do not get you high in the same way. The new MDMA has a subtle but significant pharmacological profile of effects which adds up to a huge disappointment in my opinion. That ultimate grin from ear to ear, and unstoppable feeling of love emanating from your inner self just isn't there anymore. It has something to do with both the method and precursor being different. Nobody has proven it as yet but that day is nearing as we speak. In chemistry terms it shouldn't matter which route is taken yet somehow it does. The only real way to prove it is to have two batches of both new method and old method MDMA to measure against each other.
Strength dies not necessarily mean good, which is what the previous person was trying to say.
I should also add that I've always had a really high tolerance to this drug and I never wanted to take more than 4 or 5 in a night whereas now I could take 20 and still not feel good.
Something is wrong with it and eventually it will be proven what it is, I'm certain.
 
Mate, unless you have taken pre '95 ecstacy, you've likely never had a real E before. Those new pills do not contain the same kind of MDMA as in those pills of old. I've seen the originals right the way up to present day and it is not the same drug. Yes, it tests as MDMA and they are no doubt strong, but they do not get you high in the same way. The new MDMA has a subtle but significant pharmacological profile of effects which adds up to a huge disappointment in my opinion. That ultimate grin from ear to ear, and unstoppable feeling of love emanating from your inner self just isn't there anymore. It has something to do with both the method and precursor being different. Nobody has proven it as yet but that day is nearing as we speak. In chemistry terms it shouldn't matter which route is taken yet somehow it does. The only real way to prove it is to have two batches of both new method and old method MDMA to measure against each other.
Strength does not necessarily mean good, which is what the previous person was trying to say.


dude you're talking to wrong motherfucker

im fifty fuckin one years old - i've been doing this shit since the 90s started



dont tell me i dont fuckin know - you don't fuckin know
 
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