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I don't think they should've defaced old boy like that, but it is just a statue... Guarantee you they will have a newer better one up in no time.

Honestly the colors and shit with that veil do look kind of hard. This shit will be in a museum one day probably. Not something to seethe over.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
You do realize that I'm from Texas and have a much better understanding of illegal Mexican immigrants than you do, right? Tambien hablo espanol y tenies bueno amigos que eran ilegales.

But go ahead and keep pretending you know the situation better than I do. I literally lived there for 25+ years. Keep watching Fox News. There is no "migrant crisis" at our southern border. That's fake news. Illegal immigrant levels are the exact same as they were 20+ years ago.
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It's not just Mexicans, it's all kinds of aliens illegally crossing the border. You'd start reeeeing if they started showing up in your neighborhood. Just like democrats are currently.
 
Conky said:
It's not just Mexicans, it's all kinds of aliens illegally crossing the border.
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Oh really? Where did you get that information from? Just curious.

Conky said:
You'd start reeeeing if they started showing up in your neighborhood.
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Bro I just told you I lived next to the border for most of my life. I SAW them. I TALKED to them. I smoked drugs with them.

I was not reeeeeeing.

You really have no idea what you're talking about to be honest. You're literally just parroting fox news buzz phrases.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Oh really? Where did you get that information from? Just curious.



Bro I just told you I lived next to the border for a lot of my life. I SAW them. I TALKED to them. I smoked drugs with them.

I was not reeeeeeing.

You really have no idea what you're talking about to be honest.
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It"s ppl from all over the world that are coming< theyhave noright
 

Snafu in the Void said:
It's not Islamophobic to make factual statements about a group of people. Criticizing Islam does not constitute Islamophobia, either. That's an opinion. Islamophobia would require discrimination, persecution, hate speach and/or violence.

Is it Islamophobic to say Muslims are homophobic?

*jeopardy theme song plays*
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That's a good question .

I bet nobody answers that
 
deficiT said:
He asks after requesting I not shoehorn him. You're painting with such a broad brush now that I've found myself lost in a Lowe's hardware store.
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I asked if you were a Marxist specifically because the 'food/cuisine' as a pro-immigration argument was the exact same nonsense spouted by Tony Blair's cultural revolutionary idiots back in the 90's. It was always trotted out whenever anyone raised doubts and concerns about immigration policy in an attempt to stifle discussion.

You didn't bother to ask me if I was a Conservative, you just projected that assumption on to what I was saying.
deficiT said:
I recognize that different cultures think differently. I guess I just grew up with this radical idea that different people can figure these differences out over time through basic tolerance of each other and cooperation, which has been the defining case for the thousands of years of human evolution that brought us to this moment.
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Which is why I will ask you again now, are you a Marxist?

You have to be subscribed to some phoney ideology to maintain such a belief; we have demonstrable proof now that this Pollyanna thinking does not play out in reality. Look at Sweden for fucks sake. There are people who do not subscribe to your belief and who hold a different belief, the belief of "I don't give a fuck about your culture, and you will accept mine [Islam] instead".

It's great you believe we can all live together in diversity, but simultaneously insulting at the same time because you don't actually respect the fact there is diversity within the psychologies of different groups.

Thirty years ago you could stake such a belief and denounce people like me as racist, xenophobic or whatever, and do so successfully in fact. But reality has played out now, and both your belief and pleas to emotion are now falling on deaf ears.
 
Just so you guys know, I work at ICE 2 days a week and a shitload of them are rape-o's (true story)

But if somebody didn't tell me, I wouldn't know, because 99% of them there are very nice and polite
 
That's making a very broad generalization and it definitely isn't a good excuse to say that college students shouldn't show support for muslims. That's a ridiculous statement that bases its entire premise off of stereotyping and islamophobia
 
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I asked if you were a Marxist specifically because the 'food/cuisine' as a pro-immigration argument was the exact same nonsense spouted by Tony Blair's cultural revolutionary idiots back in the 90's. It was always trotted out whenever anyone raised doubts and concerns about immigration policy in an attempt to stifle discussion.

You didn't bother to ask me if I was a Conservative, you just projected that assumption on to what I was saying.

Which is why I will ask you again now, are you a Marxist?

You have to be subscribed to some phoney ideology to maintain such a belief; we have demonstrable proof now that this Pollyanna thinking does not play out in reality. Look at Sweden for fucks sake. There are people who do not subscribe to your belief and who hold a different belief, the belief of "I don't give a fuck about your culture, and you will accept mine [Islam] instead".

It's great you believe we can all live together in diversity, but simultaneously insulting at the same time because you don't actually respect the fact there is diversity within the psychologies of different groups.

Thirty years ago you could stake such a belief and denounce people like me as racist, xenophobic or whatever, and do so successfully in fact. But reality has played out now, and both your belief and pleas to emotion are now falling on deaf ears.
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I was making a dry comedy, bland food British joke to try and lighten up a bit. Sorry that didn't land.

I don't think you care what belief system I subscribe to, take inspiration from, or otherwise relate to. You're going to call me a idealistic pinko regardless, while maintaining that some fairy tale belief in radical nationalism is going to keep the march of time and movement of cultures and ideas from happening. Personally I too think it's possible to not identify as any one ideology, but rather as a person with a brain that is capable of changing his mind, evolving his views, and developing more through the common transfer of knowledge.

If there's some big holy culture war coming your way, by all means, don't let me get in your way. Go fight for your country brother, you should probably take those guys all out if you think they're going to absorb you like The Thing or something. I'm honestly curious what you think the move is to prevent people from moving from one country to the next.

It's some wild fear mongering you're doing. Just build a wall already you'll be fine.

Like I said this has gotten dumb and I should've left it alone today
 
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Snafu in the Void said:
1960s -> left embraces non-violent protests for racial equality and to exit Vietnam
1990s -> left embraces non-violent protests for gay rights and to save the trees
2020s -> left embraces hyper-violent far right antisemitic jihadist culture to defend people living 6000 miles who would lynch them for being gay if they ever met
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this is such a bad point... firstly, are the PROTESTS themselves hyper violent? or antisemitic? (no, the answer is obviously no)

secondly, i don't know ANYONE who supports hamas... if there are those at the protests that idolize hamas it is an EXTREME outlier.

third, HAMAS/ RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS BEING HOMOPHOBES IS NOT A REASON TO MURDER BABIES!!!
 
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I've read that, as has pretty much any child brought up in Americas school system. Orwell was a radical who actually went to battle nationalists in the Spanish civil war... He wasn't some preening neoliberal, he actually had a nuanced understanding of capitalism/socialism... Unlike the countless others who misinterpret his works. He was actually a fairly badass guy so of course I've read his work, like I've read many other timeless political authors. Y'all probably all ought to read Imperialism, Capital, or What is Property at some point. All of these works massively inform and predicted the current state of the world. But I know it's a lot harder to read primary political theory than it is to blindly repeat criticisms of the left that were already addressed 150 years ago.
 
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