The indoctrination is unreal “Israel is gods country” “Israel is our greatest Allie”. I always ask them to explain where they heard this, and why they believe it. It’s ironic that the only mainstream population of people with sense about them are the same people that think a tumor is the same thing as a human fetus.
Trying to convince the hard core lefties, with the facts never works. But his communist political beliefs and support for Fidel Castro, Yasser Arafat, and giving the countries highest award to a foreigner to Gaddafi, and Suharto is awful, I know nothing about the Nigerian coup guy. But to the left he will have his legacy as a great man forever in their minds despite his support of evil leaders and violence.
MUCH of the sanctimonious grieving for Nelson Mandela is not just a sin against history - but a danger.
It is true Mandela rose to greatness. Freed after 27 years in a South African jail, the anti-apartheid fighter emerged not bent on vengeance but healing.
He negotiated a peaceful end to apartheid, and as the first president of democratic South Africa, preached - and practised - reconciliation. In this he was great. A healer. An inspiration.
For many whites abroad, he seems even Christ-like - someone who'd suffered for the sins of white guilt, and absolved those who believed in him of the sin of racism.
But Mandela was no Christ nor even Gandhi nor Martin Luther King. He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - a burning tyre around the neck.
Mandela argued the apartheid regime left him no option but to fight violence with violence, but it is too easy to claim events proved him right. His legacy is not yet played out.
Current president Jacob Zuma until recently still publicly sang the anti-apartheid song, Shoot the Boer, in a still-divided country where many white farmers have been shot.
Mandela's support for other leaders of violence is even less forgivable. He maintained close ties to Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and backed Palestinian terrorist leader Yasser Arafat. As president in 1997, he gave his country's highest award for a foreigner to Libya's dictator, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who'd donated $10 million to the ANC. He gave the same award to the corrupt Indonesian president Suharto, who he said had donated $60 million.
He supported Nigerian coup leader Sani Abacha, refusing to say a word publicly to stop the 1995 hanging of activist Ken Saro-Wiwa.
I repeat, Mandela did great things. But many of his more radical supporters in the West now use that greatness to wash clean his record of political violence - and his support for dictators who'd used it.
That is dangerous.
Those white farmers all should have salted the soil and left
It was my phone, but the healing has turned into reverse racism and the country relies heavily on the white farmers, and the countries policies are destroying the economy.
if things swing far to far in an extreme direction, they often seem to have to swing far too far in the opposite extreme direction before (hopefully) returning to some less extreme position
Zimbabwe in 2020 asked the white farmers that were chased away to come back. President/ dictator Mugabe gave the land to his cronies who knew nothing of farming. They have tried to compensate the white farmers and agriculture is getting better in the impoverished nation. Chasing off white farmers will hurt South Africa just like Zimbabwe. These people know the land and for generations have been the agricultural backbone of South Africa. With high HIV rates and a poor economy, destroying the agriculture by scaring off the white farmers will be a disaster, just like Zimbabwe learned. Even Mugabe, learned and regretted this before his ouster from power and death. Like it not these people have for generations been a key part of South Africa's economy and provided agricultural products and are an important part of South Africa and it's economy.
Could you cite a source that isn't Alex Jones that Ukraine is under attack by NATO? Or for that matter anything you're saying?
I want what you're on.
NATO headquarters, Belgium, vs the Nazi SS. Funny that out of all the possible building architectural styles and possible configurations they'd just happen to settle on one that looks suspiciously like the Nazi SS insignia. Just like the coincidental choice of the NATO logo itself having an embedded swastika in its design.
Mine means Super Saiyan. Still gay, but acceptable.
I must admit, "super Saiyan" was not the first thing I would have thought
